I am here because it specifically says it is an NTS game, "Vi will follow a NTS route (sharing, swing, exhibitionism)". I supported it because it WAS an NTS game. The key feature of netorase is permission. Eric thinking it is not giving it. He is angry about the photoshoot. He says so in the sex scene with Ari.
That whole scene is questionable for netorase. Cuckolding is not netorase and yes, it deserves its own tag). Cuckolding means the wife is unfaithful in a monogamous relationship. Sharing involves permission in a non-monogamous relationship, so it is not cuckolding.
I am willing to accept the story however it plays out. At the same time, I can hope it will go a certain way, based on the things the dev has told us. But calling it one thing while it is certainly another is not right. The dev can put whatever he wants in the story, define it however he wants. But whatever exists in the story gets placed in the tags. This site, and nearly every one like it, uses tags that are defined by the site, not by the author.
Here is what we know. There is no swinging in the current story. Netorase is what the summary claims to be the point of the story, but still has to be proven, as does harem. And Harem only applies if the core dynamic of the harem is not disturbed, say by one of the harem members doing whatever she wants. What is taking place so far is an open-relationship where they both do whatever they want. So, a harem and open-relationships can coexist. But netorare cannot exist with a harem or open-relationships. Netorare is a possibility if we take chapter six as-is and it continues. Cuckolding is a tricky one as it is not a tag but falls under netorare again—NOT netorase.
Missing/Incorrect Tags
Voyeurism
Open-relationships
Corruption
Netorare
Swinging is incorrect
The bigger question is why are you guys upset that some of are posting our desires for the game that differs from your desires? You're trying really hard to convince everyone that this is a netorare story and to let go of the NTS aspects of the game. In that case, the tag should absolutely be there. The summary SAYS it is an NTS/NTR world. But who will that include when it clearly stated Vi would be on the sharing, swinging, exhibitionism path. Why does it bother you? Let people post their theories, their bitches and gripes, and what they love about this game.
NTS is still under the ntr umbrella which technically contains all 3 aspects of ntr,nts, and nti. harem would be technically under nts as they are all sharing the MC. i guess more like reverse nts.
the fact that even though it was without permission she hid nothing. shadows of ambition had the girl send the gym girl to you to fool around with and mc fooled around with her without knowing GF had approved it. the core of nts is honesty and she didnt lie, not saying she shouldnt have asked permission. in that regard it cant be full ntr since that requires lies and hiding. yes he was feeling a little anger but also those other things. and he didnt say what kind of anger (comes in many forms). next update should square it all up since they should see each other for a chat. if they never talk about it in the next update i'll raise a pitchfork myself.
but honestly maki jerked mc off at the beach and never told her about it, nobody wants to talk about that though. and will he tell Vi about anya touching him and having his dick on her face?
also i never said anything here was bothering me. not at all.
I am here because it specifically says it is an NTS game, "Vi will follow a NTS route (sharing, swing, exhibitionism)". I supported it because it WAS an NTS game. The key feature of netorase is permission. Eric thinking it is not giving it. He is angry about the photoshoot. He says so in the sex scene with Ari.
That whole scene is questionable for netorase. Cuckolding is not netorase and yes, it deserves its own tag). Cuckolding means the wife is unfaithful in a monogamous relationship. Sharing involves permission in a non-monogamous relationship, so it is not cuckolding.
I am willing to accept the story however it plays out. At the same time, I can hope it will go a certain way, based on the things the dev has told us. But calling it one thing while it is certainly another is not right. The dev can put whatever he wants in the story, define it however he wants. But whatever exists in the story gets placed in the tags. This site, and nearly every one like it, uses tags that are defined by the site, not by the author.
Here is what we know. There is no swinging in the current story. Netorase is what the summary claims to be the point of the story, but still has to be proven, as does harem. And Harem only applies if the core dynamic of the harem is not disturbed, say by one of the harem members doing whatever she wants. What is taking place so far is an open-relationship where they both do whatever they want. So, a harem and open-relationships can coexist. But netorare cannot exist with a harem or open-relationships. Netorare is a possibility if we take chapter six as-is and it continues. Cuckolding is a tricky one as it is not a tag but falls under netorare again—NOT netorase.
Missing/Incorrect Tags
Voyeurism
Open-relationships
Corruption
Netorare
Swinging is incorrect
The bigger question is why are you guys upset that some of are posting our desires for the game that differs from your desires? You're trying really hard to convince everyone that this is a netorare story and to let go of the NTS aspects of the game. In that case, the tag should absolutely be there. The summary SAYS it is an NTS/NTR world. But who will that include when it clearly stated Vi would be on the sharing, swinging, exhibitionism path. Why does it bother you? Let people post their theories, their bitches and gripes, and what they love about this game.
You guys really hang on those two comments dev made, yet absolutely ignore all the other comments he's made lol
So how about you go back to before that scene where Erik is coming to terms with how Vi getting attention from other men excites him and after that where he talks about punishing Vi. You sure do like to cherrypick dialogue alot. It's clear how their relationship is developing is really becoming a problem for you or perhaps you secretly like it and that's what's really bothering you.
I'm not try to impose NTR on the game. I'm just simply pointing out that what the devs says and does conflict with each other.
It's clear we all think Vi's interactions during the photoshoots contradict a pure NTS path and borders on NTR. I personally don't have a problem with that and find it exciting.
I could care less how it goes, but dev contradicts himself alot.
Perhaps after reading the game's description, tags, and the developer's comments, people have already formed an opinion about the game's direction. They just didn't know that the developer might have his own unique understanding of NTS.
And maybe the developer is right. By his logic, this game truly can be called an NTS game. After all, no matter what happens, it can all be easily explained away with the simple phrase: "It's fine, Eric likes it."
Vi sleeps with Eric's rival? No problem, because "It's fine, Eric likes it."
Vi becomes a porn star? Don't worry, "It's fine, Eric likes it."
Vi gets pregnant by a stranger? No need to fret, because "It's fine, Eric likes it."
You could continue this list endlessly... In any case, I don't want to engage with that kind of logic.
So, if anything in the game bothers you, just remember the universal solution: "It's fine, Eric likes it."
And I'd like to ask, why do some people call Eric an "Alpha cuck"? I'm certainly no expert on Alpha/Beta dynamics, to be honest, I've never even used these terms myself. If I understand correctly, an "Alpha" is someone distinguished by their dominant behavior and character. I wouldn't say Eric stands out with such qualities.
After all, all the first steps towards him were made by the girls themselves, not by him. Vi, on the other hand, is the one actively making the first moves with other guys. One could say that all decisions about who Eric will sleep with are made exclusively by the women.
While Vi is off having fun with other men, Eric has to patiently wait until someone from the female cast tries to pull his pants down again.
To be honest, even if this game had been in development for 10 years, we must admit that the plot is still in its early stages. Therefore, we shouldn't rush to conclusions. Character development and evolution are what we'll have to continue observing.
Perhaps after reading the game's description, tags, and the developer's comments, people have already formed an opinion about the game's direction. They just didn't know that the developer might have his own unique understanding of NTS.
And maybe the developer is right. By his logic, this game truly can be called an NTS game. After all, no matter what happens, it can all be easily explained away with the simple phrase: "It's fine, Eric likes it."
Vi sleeps with Eric's rival? No problem, because "It's fine, Eric likes it."
Vi becomes a porn star? Don't worry, "It's fine, Eric likes it."
Vi gets pregnant by a stranger? No need to fret, because "It's fine, Eric likes it."
You could continue this list endlessly... In any case, I don't want to engage with that kind of logic.
So, if anything in the game bothers you, just remember the universal solution: "It's fine, Eric likes it."
And I'd like to ask, why do some people call Eric an "Alpha cuck"? I'm certainly no expert on Alpha/Beta dynamics, to be honest, I've never even used these terms myself. If I understand correctly, an "Alpha" is someone distinguished by their dominant behavior and character. I wouldn't say Eric stands out with such qualities.
After all, all the first steps towards him were made by the girls themselves, not by him. Vi, on the other hand, is the one actively making the first moves with other guys. One could say that all decisions about who Eric will sleep with are made exclusively by the women.
While Vi is off having fun with other men, Eric has to patiently wait until someone from the female cast tries to pull his pants down again.
To be honest, even if this game had been in development for 10 years, we must admit that the plot is still in its early stages. Therefore, we shouldn't rush to conclusions. Character development and evolution are what we'll have to continue observing.
alpha cuck can mean dominant in the bedroom if not in normal day to day life, which he does get. when we say alpha/beta or active/passive cuck, we mean the betas and passive never have any real sex and often get humiliated (no backbone/small dick/bad performance). the alphas have an active role constantly reclaiming their girls after they been with another man. they have no performance issues and usually have a decent or big dk. i think i explained that well enough
somewhere there will be some limits to "eric likes it" but your point is valid. not the first instance of plot armor though haha he is def gonna be smashing Ari going forward. in some ways i think he did break her just a little bit on the roughness.
You guys really hang on those two comments dev made, yet absolutely ignore all the other comments he's made lol
So how about you go back to before that scene where Erik is coming to terms with how Vi getting attention from other men excites him and after that where he talks about punishing Vi. You sure do like to cherrypick dialogue alot. It's clear how their relationship is developing is really becoming a problem for you or perhaps you secretly like it and that's what's really bothering you.
I'm not try to impose NTR on the game. I'm just simply pointing out that what the devs says and does conflict with each other.
It's clear we all think Vi's interactions during the photoshoots contradict a pure NTS path and borders on NTR. I personally don't have a problem with that and find it exciting.
I could care less how it goes, but dev contradicts himself alot.
Just to clarify, he has made other comments about it on the discord in the past and quite recently. What is true is that CG plays somewhat fast and loose with genres, but it still remains true that the relationship between Eric and Vi will never be true NTR, even if it rides the line at times. Some people want very specific permissions, but Eric and Vi both prefer some level of spontaneity, surprise. To some this will feel like NTR certainly, but it's also been talked about between the two of them at this point on a couple occasions. And how do you have spontaneity or surprise if very specific permissions are given?
