VN Ren'Py My New Girlfriend [Ch.6 Final] [CircleGames]

[yourmomma]

Just to clarify, he has made other comments about it on the discord in the past and quite recently. What is true is that CG plays somewhat fast and loose with genres, but it still remains true that the relationship between Eric and Vi will never be true NTR, even if it rides the line at times. Some people want very specific permissions, but Eric and Vi both prefer some level of spontaneity, surprise. To some this will feel like NTR certainly, but it's also been talked about between the two of them at this point on a couple occasions. And how do you have spontaneity or surprise if very specific permissions are given?

Yup and this exactly my point. CG's does play fast and lose with definitions. Again of which I don't care about and think it adds to the mystery, excitement and eroticism of the game. People are getting. Some people are getting all OCD over the definitions and again they're Japanese definitions being forced on western games. I feel like such rigidity stifles a devs ability to be creative in their own way.

 

[jamesbond1956111]

Any updates on Patreon ?? About the next chapter

 

[ruby_rubicon]

... I already have an image in my mind of how the original ones looked and felt.

Even if I didn’t particularly like some of the old dialogues or scenes, they were already written — you can’t undo the past. What’s done is done...

This is not Incendies or Dancer in the Dark, I really doubt experiencing it once will affect any replay/re-watch of it in your life.

But if 50 lines of this AVN have really changed you for life... Then you should know Vi still sucks another guy's dick, what changed it's the guy not being in another AVN, and the person in the photos depicted as clearly VI.

 

[ruby_rubicon]

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Also, awesome animation. Source?

 

[Dreiman]

Without any disrespect to the game dev, my own personal alt version of the story in the alley would've been Sai jizzing all over Vi unintentionally and being apologetic about it instead of being just a sad cuck. This would've brought some balance in the situation, and then in the new chapter I would've liked Vi actually being at Ari's place and they go full-on swinger party with Sai as well. The sexy photoshoot in between being an arousal catalyst for either of them by taking Ari there too, and she is the one that crosses the lines with the porn actor as she always does and corrupts Vi even more.

Again, no disrespect to the dev. I love his work and am looking forward for more. <3

 

[SymbioticLife]

A small dilemma has come up — what do you think, does rewriting dialogues really benefit the game’s future progress?
Personally, I think it only makes things worse. Removing scenes, changing dialogues… damn it, I still have the previous version of Chapter 6, and I’ve already read it. I just can’t switch to the new dialogues and new scenes — I already have an image in my mind of how the original ones looked and felt.


Even if I didn’t particularly like some of the old dialogues or scenes, they were already written — you can’t undo the past. What’s done is done. Vi already took it in her mouth, Anya already showed her boobs to Eric, Anya already revealed her slutty side. I can’t see the content any other way now, especially in V1 with all these rewrites.


CG, stop torturing us already.

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That's more an issue of people leaking something that is meant to only be played by a couple hundred gold subs, given feedback on and have time for CG to over fully and edit. If it was only the silver versions getting leaked, this would never present itself as an issue here.

There was also some minor stuff behind the scenes this time around that led to an inability for there to be a full proper test playthrough by the proofreaders until the final couple days, that won't be an issue for the next chapter so I suspect there will be far less rewriting/editing required.

That's it, by the end of the day everyone can have their best option of how that scene could be better. I personally rather if Eric had pushed Vi to suck his friend in the alley, better than this long distance blowjob for her 1st time.. But this is the way the developer decided to go, so I'll take it.

My only disappointment is the dev had a chance to rework ch6 and he still choose the same approach with Ari, Eric, Vi...

I know this scene gets brought up a lot, the alley. There were reasons why Sai didn't get action there, narrative ones, as well as "meta" content reasons that I can't get into without spoiling. Either way, it just wasn't going to happen and didn't fit with what CG was going for narratively anyway. The whole point of that scene was that Sai had already had all the fun up to that point, and I feel like people should be starting to realize a lot of the girls in this game like to toy with the guys (even Rob, as seen by Maki and Robs recent text convo) and none more so than Sai. Sai had gone and gotten pretty wild with Vi on the dance floor without full knowledge of Eric/Vi's type of relationship, I don't think Eric is really the vengeful type but even he wanted to flip the tables a little bit. Again, this is ignoring the meta reasons.

 

[dexterousgecko]

That's more an issue of people leaking something that is meant to only be played by a couple hundred gold subs, given feedback on and have time for CG to over fully and edit. If it was only the silver versions getting leaked, this would never present itself as an issue here.

There was also some minor stuff behind the scenes this time around that led to an inability for there to be a full proper test playthrough by the proofreaders until the final couple days, that won't be an issue for the next chapter so I suspect there will be far less rewriting/editing required.


I know this scene gets brought up a lot, the alley. There were reasons why Sai didn't get action there, narrative ones, as well as "meta" content reasons that I can't get into without spoiling. Either way, it just wasn't going to happen and didn't fit with what CG was going for narratively anyway. The whole point of that scene was that Sai had already had all the fun up to that point, and I feel like people should be starting to realize a lot of the girls in this game like to toy with the guys (even Rob, as seen by Maki and Robs recent text convo) and none more so than Sai. Sai had gone and gotten pretty wild with Vi on the dance floor without full knowledge of Eric/Vi's type of relationship, I don't think Eric is really the vengeful type but even he wanted to flip the tables a little bit. Again, this is ignoring the meta reasons.

eh, idk, after that , I can't see how Sai would want to hang out with these assholes. Like, that's not remotely friend behavior in any world. Meta or not, all of the main characters seem like dbags.

 

[PsyDoggo]

eh, idk, after that , I can't see how Sai would want to hang out with these assholes. Like, that's not remotely friend behavior in any world. Meta or not, all of the main characters seem like dbags.

Bring Sai 2 cuck chairs, 1 is not enough!

I know this scene gets brought up a lot, the alley. There were reasons why Sai didn't get action there, narrative ones, as well as "meta" content reasons that I can't get into without spoiling. Either way, it just wasn't going to happen and didn't fit with what CG was going for narratively anyway. The whole point of that scene was that Sai had already had all the fun up to that point, and I feel like people should be starting to realize a lot of the girls in this game like to toy with the guys (even Rob, as seen by Maki and Robs recent text convo) and none more so than Sai. Sai had gone and gotten pretty wild with Vi on the dance floor without full knowledge of Eric/Vi's type of relationship, I don't think Eric is really the vengeful type but even he wanted to flip the tables a little bit. Again, this is ignoring the meta reasons.

So friendship is over after what have been done to Ari, going to be hard to hide it when Violet also does know about it.

 

[Koy2]

new patreon post?

 

[JarrenBlake]

Perhaps after reading the game's description, tags, and the developer's comments, people have already formed an opinion about the game's direction. They just didn't know that the developer might have his own unique understanding of NTS.

And maybe the developer is right. By his logic, this game truly can be called an NTS game. After all, no matter what happens, it can all be easily explained away with the simple phrase: "It's fine, Eric likes it."

Vi sleeps with Eric's rival? No problem, because "It's fine, Eric likes it."
Vi becomes a porn star? Don't worry, "It's fine, Eric likes it."
Vi gets pregnant by a stranger? No need to fret, because "It's fine, Eric likes it."

You could continue this list endlessly... In any case, I don't want to engage with that kind of logic.

So, if anything in the game bothers you, just remember the universal solution: "It's fine, Eric likes it."

And I'd like to ask, why do some people call Eric an "Alpha cuck"? I'm certainly no expert on Alpha/Beta dynamics, to be honest, I've never even used these terms myself. If I understand correctly, an "Alpha" is someone distinguished by their dominant behavior and character. I wouldn't say Eric stands out with such qualities.

After all, all the first steps towards him were made by the girls themselves, not by him. Vi, on the other hand, is the one actively making the first moves with other guys. One could say that all decisions about who Eric will sleep with are made exclusively by the women.

While Vi is off having fun with other men, Eric has to patiently wait until someone from the female cast tries to pull his pants down again.

To be honest, even if this game had been in development for 10 years, we must admit that the plot is still in its early stages. Therefore, we shouldn't rush to conclusions. Character development and evolution are what we'll have to continue observing.

Agreed, we will have to wait and see more of the character development before we have any sort of solid understanding on things. Why I prefer the chapters in which the core group are interacting as it gives better group dynamic insights.

As for the "Eric likes it" parts. That is indeed part of the character and maybe a source of the disconnect some have with him? My early thoughts are that Eric does not mind her physical play and acts with others. That is exciting to him. However perhaps he has emotional infidelity boundaries? Her emotionally falling for and giving in to others might be a line for him? Unsure. Many have said here that secrets are the bad thing, but not really sure Eric cares about that either as he has stated that he does not have to know. As time goes on I think we will get a better idea what is meant by that. Is it that he does not have to know details but at least wants to know that something "may or may not" have happened? Or is he fine with being completely in the dark?

Currently it is really about how the readers are judging Vi's actions (And Eric's reactions) and to that I refer the prior statement of it is indeed early in the plot and will have to see it play out more.

 

[Laudu11]

What does the new post says "regarding to the future"

 

[Zobra]

"My boyfriend isn't here!"
"And even if he was..."
"It wouldn't change a thing!"
"This puppy has no leash..."
"Maybe this is too much for Eric to handle"
"We never talked about something like this, but..."

"Fuck! I can't control anything anymore!"
"He's pulling the strings now and I..."
"I can't say no! I don't wanna say no!"
"I know he's as horny as I am!"
"If this is the game he wants to play...I'm not going to back down!"

WTF did i just read ? please tell me this was edited later on ? we know she is already a slut but ... this ? this is straight cheating/betrayal & should be a on a separate Different path (getting cucked by Vi & become a copy version of Sai OR breakup and continue the story without her which will make no sense to the plot).

i liked how Erik's personality is evolving slowly but Vi was selfish here & moving way too fast , is Dev planed to make her a Por*star already ? was it like a hint ?

 

[Swiver]

That's more an issue of people leaking something that is meant to only be played by a couple hundred gold subs, given feedback on and have time for CG to over fully and edit. If it was only the silver versions getting leaked, this would never present itself as an issue here.

Guess it paid off being a good boy... then again, now I'm curious about the gold/draft.

eh, idk, after that , I can't see how Sai would want to hang out with these assholes. Like, that's not remotely friend behavior in any world. Meta or not, all of the main characters seem like dbags.

ach, HEIIIY that's a bit too much reality, you got me imagining a reallife Sai and cringing at the bullying scene STOP EEET!

Tradução pra português Brasil?

Non parlo italiano!

A small dilemma has come up — what do you think, does rewriting dialogues really benefit the game’s future progress?
Personally, I think it only makes things worse. Removing scenes, changing dialogues… damn it, I still have the previous version of Chapter 6, and I’ve already read it. I just can’t switch to the new dialogues and new scenes — I already have an image in my mind of how the original ones looked and felt.


Even if I didn’t particularly like some of the old dialogues or scenes, they were already written — you can’t undo the past. What’s done is done. Vi already took it in her mouth, Anya already showed her boobs to Eric, Anya already revealed her slutty side. I can’t see the content any other way now, especially in V1 with all these rewrites.


CG, stop torturing us already.

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[Nurikabe]

WTF did i just read ? please tell me this was edited later on ? we know she is already a slut but ... this ? this is straight cheating/betrayal & should be a on a separate Different path (getting cucked by Vi & become a copy version of Sai OR breakup and continue the story without her which will make no sense to the plot).

i liked how Erik's personality is evolving slowly but Vi was selfish here & moving way too fast , is Dev planed to make her a Por*star already ? was it like a hint ?

I haven't been on Discord recently so it is hard to know what will happen in the future. There are people who certainly support the hardcore scenes and others who most definitely do not. The scenes I posted were straight out of Chapter 6. She went from becoming a model to nude modeling to hardcore model in just a few minutes. I have no idea why the dev went with so much escalation so fast. But according to the dev and the people defending him here, everything is all within what Eric has accepted and granted. Even when it seems that it outside of what is discussed by Eric and Vi, he accepts that she is going to "stretch" the boundaries and he is fine with that. We will all have to wait and see how things go in Chapter 7.

 

[Nurikabe]

Would love to know who the moron was that reported off-topic discussion and why they think that is off-topic. There is always at least one.

 

[Alluman]

Agreed, we will have to wait and see more of the character development before we have any sort of solid understanding on things. Why I prefer the chapters in which the core group are interacting as it gives better group dynamic insights.

As for the "Eric likes it" parts. That is indeed part of the character and maybe a source of the disconnect some have with him? My early thoughts are that Eric does not mind her physical play and acts with others. That is exciting to him. However perhaps he has emotional infidelity boundaries? Her emotionally falling for and giving in to others might be a line for him? Unsure. Many have said here that secrets are the bad thing, but not really sure Eric cares about that either as he has stated that he does not have to know. As time goes on I think we will get a better idea what is meant by that. Is it that he does not have to know details but at least wants to know that something "may or may not" have happened? Or is he fine with being completely in the dark?

Currently it is really about how the readers are judging Vi's actions (And Eric's reactions) and to that I refer the prior statement of it is indeed early in the plot and will have to see it play out more.

First, I'd like to clarify something regarding the phrase "It's fine, Eric likes it." These words have been repeatedly used in arguments here, which is why I used them to hint that not everything can be justified or explained away with that phrase. Personally, I don't recall the developer himself ever saying those words, so I wouldn't attribute them to him.

Regarding Eric's boundaries, it's obvious that for a couple who have just started their "non-standard" relationship, certain boundaries do exist, but where they end, I don't know. However, it seems to me that neither of them would be particularly thrilled if the other started developing an emotional attachment to someone else. And to be honest, it would be strange to call them a couple if they had no boundaries at all.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

First, I'd like to clarify something regarding the phrase "It's fine, Eric likes it." These words have been repeatedly used in arguments here, which is why I used them to hint that not everything can be justified or explained away with that phrase. Personally, I don't recall the developer himself ever saying those words, so I wouldn't attribute them to him.

Regarding Eric's boundaries, it's obvious that for a couple who have just started their "non-standard" relationship, certain boundaries do exist, but where they end, I don't know. However, it seems to me that neither of them would be particularly thrilled if the other started developing an emotional attachment to someone else. And to be honest, it would be strange to call them a couple if they had no boundaries at all.

To be fair, the vast majority of the time i see that line said it's used dishonestly by cheating enthusiasts. The whole concept is kinda bizarre because in that kind of relationship early on is exactly the last time you'd expect to see these 'blurring the lines' type behaviors. Later on, sure.

 

[el diablo rojo]

So, I was one of the ones who complained like hell after Circle announced that he was changing things after his initial release but now that I have watched the final product....... I think that it's better. Lots of users thought that he was bending to the will of the dumb NTS/NTR debate. He didn't. He dialed back Anya's outrage and breakdown which I think was a good move, but the rest of the scene seemed like it stayed intact.

The Violet scene was the biggest improvement in the chapter. Circle kept all of her slutty dialogue and thoughts during the photo shoot, but I think he may have polished it as it seemed to flow better. Getting rid of Luke and subbing in the male porn star was a great move IMO, Violet recognized him and it turned her on even more. He also clarified the wig question by cleaning that up and although he removed the one picture with the dick in Vi's mouth, it was the right move for Circle to make. The other photos clearly show that at least a BJ happened, but with it being IMPLIED Circle has opened up more possibilities as a developer. He can do another DLC titled "The Photoshoot" where we can see everything that happened (my preferred choice) or he can just roll it into the next chapter. Either way, his changes improved that scene as well.

Adding the short Maki scene added another layer of subterfuge - can't wait to see what she has planned.

I didn't notice too many changes in the Adriana scene. Perhaps the dialogue? Especially near the end, maybe? Adriana wanting to have Eric clearly say that "his girlfriend is a slut" just like Adriana and that he likes and WANTS her to be a slut was pretty hot. I'm hoping that Vi was hiding in the closet or peeking through a crack in the door or something like that so she can see and hear what Eric wants for herself. Not like she hasn't heard it before though. Eric and her discussed how hot it would be for her to fuck other guys while they were having sex after her ass got spanked raw by all the guys in the club. Looking forward to what comes next...

 

[Swiver]

SO!
I'm no GFX guy, not even an amateur, but I occasionally tinker with a pic I like to make a signature for myself. Anyway, here's what I fingerpainted at the kindergarten today. (edited from original in 'Transitions' folder of the game)

Spoiler: Different colours

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[Alluman]

To be fair, the vast majority of the time i see that line said it's used dishonestly by cheating enthusiasts. The whole concept is kinda bizarre because in that kind of relationship early on is exactly the last time you'd expect to see these 'blurring the lines' type behaviors. Later on, sure.

Yes, there are clearly people here who want to see NTR in this game, but personally, I try to stay out of such arguments. I strive to be consistent in my words because from the very beginning I've said that the developer has the right to make his game however he wants. The only thing I asked for was that if he ever decides to change the game's direction, he should let us know upfront.

That's why I didn't focus excessively on what Vi did or said during the photoshoot, but rather on her thoughts. After all, all the words she said to Bruce don't necessarily mean they are truthful or reflect her genuine feelings, so I wouldn't recommend getting so fixated on them. As for Vi's actions, you can also find logic there. I'm not saying I agree with her actions, just that I can understand the developer's logic when he wrote that scene.

The only thing that puzzles me is her thoughts. After all those declarations about her only loving Eric and following an NTS path, reading her inner monologue during the photoshoot raised questions for me. And when I voiced them, I was immediately labeled an NTR fan, complete with unsolicited lectures on how to properly play this game. It's amusing that an NTS fan decided to criticize me for my questions while choosing to ignore the obvious NTR supporters.

I am not a fan of NTR games, but I can play them, though not all of them. For instance, I played SAO. I finished the first part but didn't continue with the second for a number of reasons. Plus, that game is made on the RPG Maker engine, so you can't skip dialogues like in Ren'py. Because of this, I had to spend hours reading dialogues just to know where to go and what to do. And reading the dialogues was hard for me because of the main character. I think you understand what kind of intellect the MC in NTR genre games often has. In the end, I couldn't stand Kirito's stupidity and his girlfriend's hypocrisy and just dropped the game. I didn't write a bad review or anything like that. I simply left a game that was clearly not for me.

I just hope the game maintains logic and consistency. I'm not expecting a complex plot. For the next update, I simply hope we get some clarity on what Vi actually meant by those thoughts, or whether the developer just didn't think them through when writing those lines.