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ernesto_fullstack

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Maybe I'm not the one to defend him, but the number of people complaining and releasing negativity because he hasn't kept his word several times.

I understand that they do it with the constructive intention of helping the creator, but if they only do it out of selfishness and to generate discomfort for the creator, I frankly disapprove.

Here everyone has their life and their problems, I think crushing others with evil pitiful it's immature behavior

PD: Yo también soy español y espero que mejore su salud y no se deprima por los problemas ni con las fechas, que programar no es una ciencia exacta y algunos problemas pueden tardar mucho en resolverse.
 
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chunkas

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Jan 29, 2018
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Maybe I'm not the one to defend him, but the number of people complaining and releasing negativity because he hasn't kept his word several times.

I understand that they do it with the constructive intention of helping the creator, but if they only do it out of selfishness and to generate discomfort for the creator, I frankly disapprove.

Here everyone has their life and their problems, I think crushing others with evil pitiful it's immature behavior

PD: Yo también soy español y espero que mejore su salud y no se deprima por los problemas ni con las fechas, que programar no es una ciencia exacta y algunos problemas pueden tardar mucho en resolverse.
Buddy, this game is more than 6 years old, it will soon turn 7. Dev planned everything perfectly when he first launched the game. The first 2 - 2.5 years are the GOLDEN age of planning, and looking at the early BoN, you realize that the Spaniards are excellent planners (y)
 

Inspired8

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Maybe I'm not the one to defend him, but the number of people complaining and releasing negativity because he hasn't kept his word several times.

I understand that they do it with the constructive intention of helping the creator, but if they only do it out of selfishness and to generate discomfort for the creator, I frankly disapprove.

Here everyone has their life and their problems, I think crushing others with evil pitiful it's immature behavior

PD: Yo también soy español y espero que mejore su salud y no se deprima por los problemas ni con las fechas, que programar no es una ciencia exacta y algunos problemas pueden tardar mucho en resolverse.
If it actually only happened "several times", nobody would give him so much shit then. The main problem with BoN is that he always uses the same excuses, over and over again, the delivery might vary, but the main point is always the same. It's either something "unexpected happened" or there are "tons of bugs" that he needs to fix etc. The latter is always funny to observe since there are always a shit ton of bugs in every update that are only fixed by people here, like Symphony of the Night, nobody is trying to "crush him" in this thread. For me, it's just amusing to watch his expected patterns of behaviour with each new update, I'm just waiting to see his downfall and what he does after that since it will be his doing. You can't take a guy seriously when he gets paid as much as he does every month to release a half-assed update after 2-3 months, that gets constantly delayed by him and every time is split into several parts, as well, and the second part is always, conveniently for BoN, is released at the beginning of a new month. If he's "depressed", he should get some help or just quit the project altogether, he either gets crushed by his mental state at this point or uses it as fuel to grind hard. Do not give him any kind of sympathy when he lives a very privileged life and gets paid for simply existing and doing some work once every few months. As people already mentioned before, the engine and the Klub 17 basically hold his hand and make his job quite easy, plus he doesn't actually make any high-quality animations, his understanding of animations is doing 3-4 images and looping them at several different frame rates which in turn allows to speed up the work and not slow it down. He doesn't need anyone to defend him, he's not a child, he gets paid for his job, every single month, and people who still provide him with any sort of leniency should just stop. He doesn't have a tight schedule, he himself decides on release dates, and nobody points a gun to his head and forces him to release an update on a specific date. His demise will be his own doing, some of his excuses are probably true but nobody can take him seriously at this point. All that's left for him to do is to release his "magnum opus" and either shelf the project or quit this job if it's actually driving him insane. No amount of money would be worth getting your mind/psyche into an extremely distressed state that might lead to unforeseen consequences. If he's suicidal, which I hope is not the case, he should just stop caring about anything and just do whatever he wants with the project and his future endeavours.

P.S.: I only wish, he would've actually listened to constructive criticism instead of taking everything personal, like a manchild.
 
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chunkas

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... All that's left for him to do is to release his "magnum opus" and either shelf the project or quit this job if it's actually driving him insane. No amount of money would be worth getting your mind/psyche into an extremely distressed state that might lead to unforeseen consequences. If he's suicidal, which I hope is not the case, he should just stop caring about anything and just do whatever he wants with the project and his future endeavours.

P.S.: I only wish, he would've actually listened to constructive criticism instead of taking everything personal, like a manchild.
Bro, you just broke my heart with your bitter and cruel words. It's just cruel. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I'll NEVER see sweet Lucy again :cry::cry::cry: Beggar MUST stay, even if WE all give him a part of own earnings.
P.S.: Where did all this talk about suicide come from? Upset about the game??? :rolleyes:
 

Theking1857

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Sep 21, 2020
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If he release the final update of MNL nobody will
bothers him anymore, and he will be able to go to therapy for his depression!
 

naruto95

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Oct 25, 2018
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LOL, I don't get how everyone is surprised for no updates today.
Everyone should know by now that this guy does not care about you all. I keep saying, do not expect any updates even if he say he will release it. Illness? let me tell you something, who does care of this silly excuse? ( you don't have to give reasons of why you cannot release any updates) (just say you cannot and that's it). Even with that, BoN is becoming more a joke and lier.

I keep saying, do not expect any BS update of this guy. PEACE
 

chunkas

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Jan 29, 2018
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The main problem with BoN is that he always uses the same excuses, over and over again, the delivery might vary, but the main point is always the same.
Listen, do you by any chance remember the details of how in a big crisis, when a Beggar decided to make a revamp, some fans began to reproach him for using unlicensed software at the beginning of the creation of the MNL?
P.S.: Isn't this your favorite song by any chance?
 

Lordsblades

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May 29, 2018
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ive repeatedly "observed" the psychology of this Beggar aka Scammer. its a sequence of actions, of probing the "soil" over a long period of time so that it all leads to whats been happening for this year.
main culprits of this situation are people who support this behavior with money. all what Beggar did was check "milking" limits of his audience. gradually reducing quality, quantity and frequency of updates, increasing degree of its laziness. "Oh, it works!" thought Beggar. began to add to his natural laziness lies, he had has not enough just lazy, it is boring for him. lies about that, about other and so on. and instead of punishing such with money, people continue to blindly wait and believe like puppies
but Beggar was and remains not enough of this, now he believes his own lies. just because its more fun than just keeping silent. the current situation is a HUGE snowball of laziness, lies and human stupidity. he has no psychological illness other than the innate laziness and acquired courage from his own endless lies. foolish people keeping believe. and Beggar, not particularly clever summarily but clever enough to understand that you can lie and be lazy with impunity enjoys it. for the last 10 months hes been trying to squeeze out a moral trauma as an excuse but again, dont believe it. any man who presses his psychological problems will not snap at other people simply because they are telling the truth. he is fully aware of his actions and the main thing is that these actions are aimed at milking money
he enjoys his "game" of lies, laziness and human greed, playing the fool who always forgets something, doesnt have time to do something and so on. but the truth is he didnt do anything and still doesnt doing for a LONG time. this guy has long realized mechanics of milking stupid part of his audience and its not necessary for him to do anything except to continue lying, giving verbal hope and continuing to lie further.
he cant release 2nd part of the update like for 4 months and 10+ amount of delays not cuz he has something broken, not working and so on. hes just waiting another month for another batch of milking money. expect nothing from this man, MnL is dead and spanish Scammer himself just waits for himself to lose, question is when. he asks for help in his own defeat
 

chunkas

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Jan 29, 2018
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ive repeatedly "observed" the psychology of this Beggar aka Scammer. its a sequence of actions, of probing the "soil" over a long period of time so that it all leads to whats been happening for this year.
main culprits of this situation are people who support this behavior with money. all what Beggar did was check "milking" limits of his audience. gradually reducing quality, quantity and frequency of updates, increasing degree of its laziness. "Oh, it works!" thought Beggar. began to add to his natural laziness lies, he had has not enough just lazy, it is boring for him. lies about that, about other and so on. and instead of punishing such with money, people continue to blindly wait and believe like puppies
but Beggar was and remains not enough of this, now he believes his own lies. just because its more fun than just keeping silent. the current situation is a HUGE snowball of laziness, lies and human stupidity. he has no psychological illness other than the innate laziness and acquired courage from his own endless lies. foolish people keeping believe. and Beggar, not particularly clever summarily but clever enough to understand that you can lie and be lazy with impunity enjoys it. for the last 10 months hes been trying to squeeze out a moral trauma as an excuse but again, dont believe it. any man who presses his psychological problems will not snap at other people simply because they are telling the truth. he is fully aware of his actions and the main thing is that these actions are aimed at milking money
he enjoys his "game" of lies, laziness and human greed, playing the fool who always forgets something, doesnt have time to do something and so on. but the truth is he didnt do anything and still doesnt doing for a LONG time. this guy has long realized mechanics of milking stupid part of his audience and its not necessary for him to do anything except to continue lying, giving verbal hope and continuing to lie further.
he cant release 2nd part of the update like for 4 months and 10+ amount of delays not cuz he has something broken, not working and so on. hes just waiting another month for another batch of milking money. expect nothing from this man, MnL is dead and spanish Scammer himself just waits for himself to lose, question is when. he asks for help in his own defeat
Thomas Torquemada, Ignatius Loyola and Lorsblades! In the days of the Holy Inquisition, no beggar swindler could have escaped your stigma.
 

Paitryn

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I doubt it was something of malicious intent. just the inherit temptation of laziness that comes from not having to sell a product good or service. People have a tendency to pay money reguardless, and it does very little to incentivize performance. When he started out he was on fire not because he wanted to create something great, but because he was on the verge of losing his dream of being an artist and having to work a regular job to sustain himself. But once he hit that threshold where his lifestyle was assured, it all drifted.

Its why socalism doesn't work. you hand someone money for nothing then ask them to do something, instead of paying them for a product. The result is whimsical. Some will do it, some won't, and like beggar, they half ass it to get by.

Now hes jaded because well, he still isn't chasing his dream but instead beholden to the project he created to get the ball rolling. He was supposed to be drawing art on a new project by now, but he's dragging ass treating it like a chore.

The truth is, dreams take work to happen. Work and sacrifice. He really isn't interested in either of those though. He was just a kid that liked to draw and wanted people to give him money to keep drawing. He probably would have sit in his parents house all day drawing if they would have let him. My guess is this all started when they made him move out and get a job.
 

f4f4

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He removed the post promising a release for the 17th and said it would be ready for the next day just to fail again. Man, thats not a good look. Hes not been the same the whole year. Im afraid the 2017-2021 Beggar is no more. FUUUUUUCK I dont want one of my favorite games to be abandoned, but unfortunately that is where is headed. He has lost his drive. And we are so close to finally completing the 1st game. I honestly dont think we will ever see MyNewLife2.
 

chunkas

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I doubt it was something of malicious intent. just the inherit temptation of laziness that comes from not having to sell a product good or service. People have a tendency to pay money reguardless, and it does very little to incentivize performance. When he started out he was on fire not because he wanted to create something great, but because he was on the verge of losing his dream of being an artist and having to work a regular job to sustain himself. But once he hit that threshold where his lifestyle was assured, it all drifted.

Its why socalism doesn't work. you hand someone money for nothing then ask them to do something, instead of paying them for a product. The result is whimsical. Some will do it, some won't, and like beggar, they half ass it to get by.

Now hes jaded because well, he still isn't chasing his dream but instead beholden to the project he created to get the ball rolling. He was supposed to be drawing art on a new project by now, but he's dragging ass treating it like a chore.

The truth is, dreams take work to happen. Work and sacrifice. He really isn't interested in either of those though. He was just a kid that liked to draw and wanted people to give him money to keep drawing. He probably would have sit in his parents house all day drawing if they would have let him. My guess is this all started when they made him move out and get a job.
I agree with most of what has been written, however, bro, don't touch socialism. Everything works fine there. Look at China or Vietnam.
 
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Paitryn

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I agree with most of what has been written, however, bro, don't touch socialism. Everything works fine there. Look at China or Vietnam.
Look up the great leap forward. Exactly what I said happened. They changed things because it didn't work. But thats off topic so lets just leave it at that.
 
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