Symphony of the Night

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Bro you Deserved that credit you always take time outta your day to help people with game issues make bug fixes and cheat mods that can make the game whole lot more easy for everyone even tho some of the people can be annoying asking the same questions to you and honestly you are main reason anybody here can properly play this game
Not only that, the politeness of his answers that he delivers with every annoying person that asks the same questions (I've been one of them), it's what makes the difference every time... at least for me.

you can tell that sotn has a very helpful nature

Thanks homies, respect.

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I just don't know how to respond at receiving compliments from dudes though :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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IAmTheWurst

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It is not that alone, he cannot make a law suit for using TK-17 renders. They are technically illegal to use. Plus the use of the heavily modded assets are used without permission. Even a member here from the old t17 forum was highly upset his work is being used without his permission etc. Some other assets may even require payment to use but are use because people download them prepacked without payment.

I distinctly remember telling him to take it up with BoN, cause even though I understand his frustration, it doesn't matter to us cause we're pirates. Hence BoN cant sue anyone even if he had the money.

I'm not worried about the models, I would need to recreate them anyways (and get rid of the grey nails syndrome). I'm more worried about the automatic copyright law. I'll put some links at the end of this post.

Copyright does not protect the idea for a game, its name or title, or the method or methods for playing it. Nor does copyright protect any idea, system, method, device, or trademark material involved in developing, merchandising, or playing a game. Once a game has been made public, nothing in the copyright law prevents others from developing another game based on similar principles. Copyright protects only the particular manner of an author’s expression in literary, artistic, or musical form.

TL;DR about what I think about this:
I can create a game with the same name, same controls, etc. Everything that's technical.
The artistic parts of the game are copyright protected by default (story, visual art, music):
-That means I can't implement the story so far (might do a sequel or a side story or a "parody" but that's under the fair use vs derivative work area which is quite murky).
-Probably can't use the looks of the characters, even if some of them are generic looking.
-I can use the music though, because they are not BoN's work.

Promised links:

 

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I'm not worried about the models, I would need to recreate them anyways (and get rid of the grey nails syndrome). I'm more worried about the automatic copyright law. I'll put some links at the end of this post.

Copyright does not protect the idea for a game, its name or title, or the method or methods for playing it. Nor does copyright protect any idea, system, method, device, or trademark material involved in developing, merchandising, or playing a game. Once a game has been made public, nothing in the copyright law prevents others from developing another game based on similar principles. Copyright protects only the particular manner of an author’s expression in literary, artistic, or musical form.

TL;DR about what I think about this:
I can create a game with the same name, same controls, etc. Everything that's technical.
The artistic parts of the game are copyright protected by default (story, visual art, music):
-That means I can't implement the story so far (might do a sequel or a side story or a "parody" but that's under the fair use vs derivative work area which is quite murky).
-Probably can't use the looks of the characters, even if some of them are generic looking.
-I can use the music though, because they are not BoN's work.

Promised links:

Bruh, why would you even quote me, I wasn't even talking about you. Additionally I didn't quote you. I was talking about what Paitryn said about BoN suing if he could.

You do your thing man, that's for you to read and deal with. Not me. Most of this I already knew plus some is common knowledge. I was just simply replying to Paitryn, basically inferring a pirate cant sue anyone or he himself with get in trouble after
BTW I hope this aint come off as offensive because I certainly not trying to be (y)

It was removed by the dev
 
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v0.91 Unoffical Bugfixes Patch
Updated: 22/11/2022

To increase bug-fixing speed, anyone can send me their save via dm/pm. But please don't expect me to play your game for a whole 10mins etc. Save facing the problem or right before the problem please

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Hi, I found the next bug:
When starting the Mafia: The Dragunovs part 2, exactly when it is needed to talk with Ivanna and she gives you Olenka to live in the new house, once you can start moving you are actually doing it with Ivanna and so it doesn't let you do other new events.
I leave three save files in the following moments:
-file18: right before talking with Ivanna.
-file19: after the event and appearing with Olenka in the new house, but walking with Ivanna as the leader.
-file20: after leaving Olenka in her room but still walking with Ivanna as the leader and the MC following her.
 

Birulei

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A shame, a real shame that game unfortunately will be eternally bugged and probably, endless too, this game used to be really good and it was my favorite out there, still one of the best when we talk about the girls(both in hotness and personality), a shame this Dev is slowly become the next Bluecat, it's always promises, delays and no results.

I really wanted to see Sasha, Clarisse, Tyna, Amaria, the gang girls, the youtubers, the old aunt Maggie, the new aunt Maggie, Christian's mom, Ms. Glober and of course, Lucy contents, but i don't think this day will come.

It's better for Beggar and for us to abandon this game, better to not even try to make My New Life 2 and don't try to make another Revamp because no one would approve it, only his bots on Patreon.
 
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alltreck

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Rufus on planet Deponia ;), are you playing it with any mods? If so, try without mods. Additionally try a new save without mods also.
Well hello there) No mods. Restarted the game. Part of the problem is that shift is both the button for running and hiding the interface, so when you run, you need then to press shift again to enable interaction. Rechecked yep, the shift can screw smartphone menu as well. Set the game to always run to stop using it. But the image loading error in face app is still reproducible and put you in the cycle of error and retry (the only option).
 
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Hi, I found the next bug:
When starting the Mafia: The Dragunovs part 2, exactly when it is needed to talk with Ivanna and she gives you Olenka to live in the new house, once you can start moving you are actually doing it with Ivanna and so it doesn't let you do other new events.
I leave three save files in the following moments:
-file18: right before talking with Ivanna.
-file19: after the event and appearing with Olenka in the new house, but walking with Ivanna as the leader.
-file20: after leaving Olenka in her room but still walking with Ivanna as the leader and the MC following her.
Thanks man, I will check it out, but when sending bug reports, pm me instead. So it dont get lost in the post thread. But I will certainly check it out later today (y)

Well hello there) No mods. Restarted the game. Part of the problem is that shift is both the button for running and hiding the interface, so when you run, you need then to press shift again to enable interaction. Rechecked yep, the shift can screw smartphone menu as well. Set the game to always run to stop using it. But the image loading error in face app is still reproducible and put you in the cycle of error and retry (the only option).
Have you installed the unofficial bug patch, check main page for the link. Yeah the shift button for hide menu is a bad choice on the dev part. I was going to change it to Ctrl but didnt as most were familiar with the shift by now.

Did they remove that ugly af ui yet?
In the pc cheat mod there is an option to turn it on or off to a very well done (excellent) transparent UI made by ganzback
 
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Fresh2me

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I suggest you guys to try out "A struggle with Sin" if you didn't already.
Models are kind of the same style, it already has a lot of content, didn't encounters bugs, gets updated frequently with a dev that communicate...
He uses polls to choose which characters gets content or not which may or not be a good thing but anyway, if you like MNL's models style and the kind of open world rpgm open world aspect, it's literally what you wish MNF was.


I mentionned some time ago that what allowed him to not deliver enough and still get support was that he kind of lacked competition in his kind of style, well it's definetly not true anymore.
 

LeoCarnage

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I suggest you guys to try out "A struggle with Sin" if you didn't already.
Models are kind of the same style, it already has a lot of content, didn't encounters bugs, gets updated frequently with a dev that communicate...
He uses polls to choose which characters gets content or not which may or not be a good thing but anyway, if you like MNL's models style and the kind of open world rpgm open world aspect, it's literally what you wish MNF was.


I mentionned some time ago that what allowed him to not deliver enough and still get support was that he kind of lacked competition in his kind of style, well it's definetly not true anymore.
i started playing that game the beginning is interesting in the women in the game are hot as well but i would say a struggle with sin is more similar to Peasant's Quest than MNL
 
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