VN Ren'Py My New Memories: The Beginning [Ch.2] [Killer7]

[OWSam000]

This game should have a sub topic name, how I fucked up my harem

 

[Quetzzz]

Considering all the changes from MNM I am pretty sure 'forgot to correct that line' isn't the issue, its more along the line of K7 deciding to change the background of MNM to fit whatever he wanted to do with this game, their are so many deviations that it can't be merely a question of mistakes, its intended. Which is why like I said before a rewrite of MNM is a necessity, otherwise the two games won't make sense one with the other.

I think you're right. At a certain point, too many soap opera plot devices are necessary to bring the two narratives in line, making it jarring and immersion breaking.
Having now played chapter 2, I can see how Bethany's attitude changes. At the start, like with the Katharina deal, she was very laissez-faire. But now with the cousin-scare, reality hit her in the face. She seemed to have a very libertine view on sex and intimacy, even being playful about the MC discussing condom use with his girlfriends without batting an eye. But I can see her becoming a bit more conservative because of this.

As for Sabrina, it will now depend on Lea and the MC continuing their relationship and if Bethany makes peace with it. If they continue and it causes a huge rift, then I can see this impacting Sabrina a lot. Otherwise, if Bethany is fine with it, it would encourage Sabrina, making her think Beth will be fine with her and the MC too (eventually).

I think Dev will eventually change some plot of the main game in order to match the change in the prequel.

Yeah, or designate MNMTB as happening in an alternative timeline instead of being a straight prequel.

The main issue, narratively, is that the household is already becoming a powder keg of incest while they'll still be at the university for years. This isn't all happening the last few weeks before graduation, before they all split off to do their own thing. Katharina is the main driver of this toward Bethany and the MC, and then there are the MC's own feelings as well.
With MNM in mind, I had expected this story to have Anna as the main driving force, that she'd be the one pushing everyone together and convincing them their feelings aren't wrong. Then we'd have a conservative family and MC, with libertine Anna pushing boundaries.

Edit: In a way, rejecting everyone until Anna is there feels more canon to me.

 

[OWSam000]

If Dev decide to rewrite the story a bit for the main game, I definitely support it. Like someone has said, it would be worse if you try to connect the prequel and the main game by some poor drama which cause unnecessary problems.

 

[Killer7]

I feel like you guys keep forgetting that the MC in MNM has no memory of anything up until the end - where he gets it back but not more is Shown or told there. Thats basically my get out of jail card because even things like age can be misinterpreted in terms of timelines etc.

I know this kinda like a cop out but its the best way to Deal with it since the prequel has not been a thing until last year and Chapter 3 of MNM has been out for a shitton of time

 

[Quetzzz]

I feel like you guys keep forgetting that the MC in MNM has no memory of anything up until the end - where he gets it back but not more is Shown or told there. Thats basically my get out of jail card because even things like age can be misinterpreted in terms of timelines etc.

For me, my main worry is that this only works for the MC's perspective, not for everyone else involved. There's a certain incredulity about Sabrina waiting 20 years to have sex with the MC, seeing how strongly they already feel about each other and how much boundaries have already eroded.

But, let me nuance this by saying this is more of a worry than a full-on criticism. I think you're a good writer, so I'm betting you've already got the narrative bucket of ice water ready to douse any spark that gets too warm. Also, nothing's stopping you from declaring that rejecting Lea at first is the canon path, which would slow things down with Sabrina considerably.

 

[OWSam000]

I feel like you guys keep forgetting that the MC in MNM has no memory of anything up until the end - where he gets it back but not more is Shown or told there. Thats basically my get out of jail card because even things like age can be misinterpreted in terms of timelines etc.

I know this kinda like a cop out but its the best way to Deal with it since the prequel has not been a thing until last year and Chapter 3 of MNM has been out for a shitton of time

I am just afraid that some shit level drama that ruin what mc got in the prequel which feel forced to connect the main game, however I believe in you to make it the best.

Also, just be curious, how many chapter you decide for the prequel?

 

[Killer7]

I am just afraid that some shit level drama that ruin what mc got in the prequel which feel forced to connect the main game, however I believe in you to make it the best.

Also, just be curious, how many chapter you decide for the prequel?

No drama, ever. There will be a reason the other girls have not been mentioned in the main game at all yet, some of them can already be guessed ( Lea staying in Germany, Jackie staying in Ghana etc ). No idea on how many chapters, I guess that depends on when I release Chapter 4 for the main game.

 

[JEER0X]

lol i love how if you don't ask rei on a date the dev keeps reminding you that you didn't do it

 

[Quetzzz]

Killer7 I can confirm that the "Now she knows..." achievement now triggers on Steam.
The bug involving katharina's variable is still there, causing several crashes and triggering an opted-out lewd scene when ignored.
Fix:

# in variables.rpy
default Katharinalovetime = False
# remove capital K, force recompile before building
default katharinalovetime = False

This change is safe for existing save games. If in doubt, just add the default for 'katharinalovetime'.

lol i love how if you don't ask rei on a date the dev keeps reminding you that you didn't do it

And you'll still go on a date with her and spend some intimate time together in her room.

 

[JEER0X]

Killer7 I can confirm that the "Now she knows..." achievement now triggers on Steam.
The bug involving katharina's variable is still there, causing several crashes and triggering an opted-out lewd scene when ignored.
Fix:

# in variables.rpy
default Katharinalovetime = False
# remove capital K, force recompile before building
default katharinalovetime = False

This change is safe for existing save games. If in doubt, just add the default for 'katharinalovetime'.


And you'll still go on a date with her and spend some intimate time together in her room.

Spoiler alert i guess? Since i didn't get to that part yet, so i am guessing this is another game with what i call "Choices" and they don't matter, happens far to often makes you wonder why they are there to begin with.

 

[Quetzzz]

Spoiler alert i guess? Since i didn't get to that part yet, so i am guessing this is another game with what i call "Choices" and they don't matter, happens far to often makes you wonder why they are there to begin with.

You're right, apologies. I've edited my post to add a spoiler.
There is a certain... lack of consideration for players/paths that don't follow the top choices. I mean, I knew that going in, having played the other games, but I do hope the narrative-breaking ones get fixed. When choices are offered, the least a player can expect is for the story to still make sense whatever they pick.

 

[N0lla]

Rather good - nice twists and turns. Looking forward to chapter 3

 

[JEER0X]

You're right, apologies. I've edited my post to add a spoiler.
There is a certain... lack of consideration for players/paths that don't follow the top choices. I mean, I knew that going in, having played the other games, but I do hope the narrative-breaking ones get fixed. When choices are offered, the least a player can expect is for the story to still make sense whatever they pick.

well i just got shell shocked anyways Since i turned rei down, it randomly teleported her to the kitchen and she tells mc about anna being her cousin and now he's all freaking out talking about loving rei and anna even tho i didn't date rei, i think the dev needs to look at his/her scripts or remove the choices cause now the story makes no sense

 

[Quetzzz]

well i just got shell shocked anyways Since i turned rei down, it randomly teleported her to the kitchen and she tells mc about anna being her cousin and now he's all freaking out talking about loving rei and anna even tho i didn't date rei, i think the dev needs to look at his/her scripts or remove the choices cause now the story makes no sense

Yeah, in the case of Rei, the story would make a lot more sense if she were a mandatory LI. It would also fit other plot points better of the MC spreading his wings and starting to get an interest in women.
This last part is perhaps the plot point I have the most issue with. He's 20-something but hasn't dated anyone. He's surrounded by female friends who love him, and in the case of Lea, he was in negotiations about perhaps going on a date. I'm having difficulty combining that view of the MC, who almost seems asexual at the start, to the guy who gets into several relationships.

 

[OWSam000]

You think you had a choice towards the girls, but the fact is, all girls cumming on you are inevitable. PROBABLY FORCED BY ANNA.

 

[OWSam000]

I think it had better make prequel a kinetic novel so it won't get even messier to connect back to main game.

 

[Quetzzz]

You think you had a choice towards the girls, but the fact is, all girls cumming on you are inevitable. PROBABLY FORCED BY ANNA.

I'd be entirely fine with that. I think many people who played MNM have a certain fascination and deference for Anna. She's the queen of the MC's harem, the person who pushed him to open his heart to more than one woman, including family members. The woman who turned the MC from a boy into a confident man... His ride or die.

 

[Killer7]

She still is, as you will see once she appears in the prequel .

 

[JEER0X]

ugh i hated that towards the end, I Really hate manipulation plots like this, i never played the main game yet so i wasn't prepared for this, it makes me feel angry, and even angrier cause i know the MC will probably not do anything about this what i would call betrayal by his mom and aunt.

To specify i don't hate the game....i just hate knowing most likely the MC will just forgive and accept this cause its an incest game and porn logic, i would be fuckin pissed and not talk to them for along time, hell i would tell my mom right there that i already nutted in lea and her mom and if i knew this before hand i wouldn't of

While i get its a Incest game and whatnot it would suck to have the Parents know they are relatives and his own mom knew Kat was gonna teach him sexual stuff and let it happen, then Kat lets him bang her in the changing room and nutt inside knowing she's his aunt they don't even know about mc banged lea yet, unless she told people even tho they agreed not to
I am guessing there will be something along the lines of we wanted you (MC) to be with so and so (Twin for example, basically they want the incest to happen.

Welcome To Alabama i guess

 

[Quetzzz]

While i get its a Incest game and whatnot it would suck to have the Parents know they are relatives and his own mom knew Kat was gonna teach him sexual stuff and let it happen, then Kat lets him bang her in the changing room and nutt inside knowing she's his aunt they don't even know about mc banged lea yet, unless she told people even tho they agreed not to.

I think you missed something. Beth didn't know this at the start; her weird behavior only started a few days ago, which is when she had the talk with the MC in his room.
If you're on Katharina's path, she will tell the MC to keep what happened in the changing room a secret from Beth. This indicates that Beth has asked Kath to stop whatever she was doing with him.
You are right about the breach of trust, though. Kath continuing without informing the MC isn't what we call informed consent. As an authority figure, she should know better and deserves some consequences.