HornyyPussy

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If I remember right - there is a scene near the beginning of the game where the MC is with a Demon - and his mother and I believe his father are also there. Father is under the control of the Demon and they torment the mother or threaten to, to get the MC to agree or do something. Would have to check it again to know exactly what it was - been quite awhile since this happened!
Of course, I could be way off with this also... but I do think that was what started it.
Damn, have no recollection of that scene.........
 

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You're absolutely missing my point. That would be like saying "only the players can laugh". Obviously, yet characters do it all the time. My point is whether it's meant to say the jealousy is something (we pretend) the character experiences, or whether "designed to cause jealousy" refers to making the player jealous. My personal view of NTR is when it's the character that's supposed to be affected. Obviously, you disagree.

I don't care about the differences in our definitions; you're arguing for your definition when I couldn't care less that your opinion doesn't match my own. You're quoting me makes me thing you're trying to pick up an argument that I have zero interest in having. I'm merely stating the vagueness in the definition on the site.
Yeah, playing around with tags is a shit show. While 99% of people asking about NTR will ask from a player standpoint rather than an MC standpoint, the swinging tag should help there but it is seldom used. But if there is swinging inside the harem then the shit hits the fan if you try to tag it somehow. Then you have this VN where the dev is mudding the tag's system like it's his hobby. This is the first VN I have seen in which you also take with you the rapist of your LI. :KEK:
 

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NTR - Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.

Nowhere does it say MC should feel jealous. MC feels betrayed, emasculated, devalued and demeaned.
When the Nurnberg trials took place,
NOBODY TOLD THE COURTS: LET THE NAZI GO HOME WITH ME SO SHE CAN RAPE ME OVER AND OVER.
 

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If I remember right - there is a scene near the beginning of the game where the MC is with a Demon - and his mother and I believe his father are also there. Father is under the control of the Demon and they torment the mother or threaten to, to get the MC to agree or do something. Would have to check it again to know exactly what it was - been quite awhile since this happened!
Of course, I could be way off with this also... but I do think that was what started it.
The father died before the beginning of the story, the scene you're refering to is not in this game.
 

HornyyPussy

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NTR - Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.

Nowhere does it say MC should feel jealous. MC feels betrayed, emasculated, devalued and demeaned.
That is the whole point, F95's NTR tag rule leave it ambiguous who gets jealous.
 

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Shit that's a grey area right there. They broke her mind with cock by that point.
the sister wasn't part of that though, she's a nice character.

But yeah, it's a grey area for sure. Mom do falls in love with the Mother Superior but yeah, iffy!
 
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ThaDude1977

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I think that's the idea, but technically the definition reads:
[Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

The MC has open relationships, like I mentioned, so he himself doesn't get jealous. However, if the player gets jealous (on behalf of the MC?), I suppose one could make the leap that it equates to NTR as well. I disagree with that assumption, but I'm not going to quibble over how people vary their definition of the term.
Well IMO NTR is like any other Genre. It is for the reader. What is comedy in a movie/book for? For the reader to laugh. What is Horror for? To scare reader. And that's what NTR is for, so while the MC is ok with it, For some of the readers we are not, therefore i would classify it as NTR. That's why some readers hollers NTR when it's not. But that's just my opinion IDK what goes through other peoples minds it's just what i think.
 
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If I remember right - there is a scene near the beginning of the game where the MC is with a Demon - and his mother and I believe his father are also there. Father is under the control of the Demon and they torment the mother or threaten to, to get the MC to agree or do something. Would have to check it again to know exactly what it was - been quite awhile since this happened!
Of course, I could be way off with this also... but I do think that was what started it.
Hmm :unsure: To be totally honest that sounds more like seducing the Devil than this one but I could be wrong.
 
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Canto Forte

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The same deal with all the futa demons - if she refuses or tries to escape, the game kills her.
She is used and abused, nobody is asking, they just take turns raping her,
while her resisting turns into her death and game over.
She did later with Mother Superior's sister but that was consensual then.
That is the whole point, F95's NTR tag rule leave it ambiguous who gets jealous.
Shit that's a grey area right there. They broke her mind with cock by that point.
the sister wasn't part of that though, she's a nice character.

But yeah, it's a grey area for sure. Mom do falls in love with the Mother Superior but yeah, iffy!
Not to mention the sisters in bright clothes tell her to die before turning into anything like them.
 
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HornyyPussy

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The same deal with all the futa demons - if she refuses or tries to escape, the game kills her.
She is used and abused, nobody is asking, they just take turns raping her,
while her resisting turns into her death and game over.





Not to mention the sisters in bright clothes tell her to die before turning into anything like them.
In my playthrough the Mother Superior is the only one fucking her.
 

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There are two things that bug me about this, first and trivial, when you say piqued my interest that is how it is spelled, NOT picked.

Second, more seriously, if Adam gets caught peeking at a girl she goes mad and it is game over, but, it is ok for them to peek and even suck off Adam...

I hate this inequality, double standard women are a pain.
 
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