Dude this, exactly, x1000.
The thing with this one is they don't, like, hinge anything on the support. They're not begging for it, they're not keeping releases locked behind it. MM has, for years, been a very "sure if you want but no promises" sort of affair for monetary support, and openly so. But weird nerds want to seem cool and above-it-all, so every time MM gets some news they flock to the thread to necro the same whining again
yeah thats gonna be the case in just about any forum for games on this site! i was trying to encapsulate all occurrences like that because of it being the same thing everywhere you go! it seems to me that people just want something to complain about! it doesnt really matter the topic or situation, some just feel the need to be complaining about something all the time! if they put the same effort into praising good things that happen instead of trying to tear things down... idk maybe we wouldnt see so many projects get abandoned! negativity only breeds negativity! and this world could use more positive voices out there! i was taught when i was young that "if you cant say something nice, dont say anything at all!"
Then you might want to look into getting cryogenically frozen at this rate.
I would not hold my breath on that one. I would not expect it to be 'complete' for a very long time.
dont tell me they are going to pull out a SHELTER or personal trainer and rush the ending part of the game ruining all the work they made
Not like this I think, they want to "finish" the Story with Nefari. So that this doesn't get Events anymore maybe? But I doubt that somehow. Maybe more of a change from single events to events like the sunday events. We can only guess what tht means. This game is otherwise far from finished.
I agree that life happens, or as I normally say, "shit happens", but it's also true that devs can stop billing when they're not working, idk anything about this dev's patreon, so I'm not talking about him, but I've seen it so many times, that people say the same as you, that life happens and they might be in a bad time, so they can't work, ok, but if you don't stop billing, there is no excuse to stop working, if you are a dev, and want to stop for some time, you should also stop the billing on patreon, since people pay you to develop the game they like, yes, they can just stop the sub on patreon, but this devs normally don't tell you that they're taking a break, because they know if they did, a lot of people would stop giving them money, so, in my opinion, unless the dev stops billing, and comunicates properly to their patreons, doesn't matter how bad they're having it, it falls on them, and this type of devs make it harder to make money for the devs that actually care, because a lot of people can't trust any dev now.
i can feel ya on that sentiment! i get it! there are devs that skip out and take peoples money and thats a definite issue and i get that if a dev is having issues with their life it would be the courteous thing to do to shut down payments and/or communicate this with their audience! the thing is (and i know this from experience) that when the shit hits the fan you dont always have the luxury to stop and go "oh i better stop payments on patreon and write a big apology post to my donors!" stuff like that is usually the last thing on your mind! then again some people just havent been taught how to be courteous either and feel like its not their responsibility to do any of that kind of stuff and have the mentality that if they dont want their account charged they will stop payments themselves! that leads me back to the point i was making in my previous post that as a consumer if you arent getting the goods and services your paying for then you stop paying for a product you arent getting! if you pay for a streaming service like netflix or whatever and there isnt anything there that you like then you stop paying! you wont see netflix ask you if you wanna stop paying because you havent watched it in a while! its ultimately the responsibility of the consumer!
I somewhat agree and disagree, with Netflix, as you said later, you can see what there is in the shop at any time, and you can look for news on when will new content be released, but in patreon, my problem is when you only get an update every 6 months, by the time you see that the dev is not delivering, you have already been there for months, there is where I see the problem, that ofc, is solved with devs that do the billing on release, and not as a sub service, but those are rare as far as I know.
Yes, a lot of devs have it harder, even if they're good devs, because of the amount of "bad" devs we see all the time, but that's what happens with everything, same with AI, it's getting a lot of hate, but AI is just a tool, and if you use it well, it's a very good tool, that can speed a lot of processes that take a lot of time for humans to make, also AI can make a very repetitive task without making mistakes, that a human would make because monotony normally ends up with people doing the task "braindead" and may not notice a mistake, but, because a lot of people use AI to just make everything, we see a lot of people hating just because something uses AI, I feel like it's the same with Patreon, it's a good tool for devs that want to work making games, that is missused by others that don't take it seriously enough, and give bad rep to others, right now, there are no more than 3 devs that I would 100% trust (on top of my mind, maybe there are more), and that's because they have a few completed games, and good comunication with their followers, but there is 0 chance, that I would trust a new dev with 0 completed games, because all the "bad apples" there are around, and that hurts the chances of good games getting attention, and finished eventually.
Is that public info? It isn't in this thread, twitter, or the Patreon, so I'm not sure where I'm expected to have read that.
Wrong threadIs that public info? It isn't in this thread, twitter, or the Patreon, so I'm not sure where I'm expected to have read that.
Did you get it from the discord?
If true, fair play to Jikei for following through.
That member goes from thread to thread, whining about games that have a known slow release schedule.Wrong thread
