VN Ren'Py Natsumi Love Story [v0.4.9] [Steradianfauns]

[harem.king]

hey if you have fun with the game who am i, too rain on your parade, but the last ?5? pages or so before the newest version dev told people repeatedly that the marriage is real that we just don't understand his genius and how her marring anyone else then mc while she is a yandere makes total sense and is not MC getting depredated to a walking dildo for a lesbian relationship. spoiler "it doesn't make sense", and MCs relationship status will shift. Simply because he is not married to either of them he is an accessory to their relationship nothing more.

I have observed that of people who dislike NTR, somewhere between 1/4th to 1/3rd consider lesbian relationship between their harem to be NTR. while the rest consider it to not count.

I understand where you are coming from when you say it is NTR, and while I disagree I am sympathetic to the fact you hold a different view and how it makes you feel. I too hate NTR.
but it is annoying that despite being sympathetic towards this minority, they always give me so much shit for not agreeing with them and keep on calling me a cuck. please stop suggesting / mentioning cuck games (where another man fucks your waifus) to me. It grosses me out every time you even mention them.

As someone in the "doesn't count" camp, I personally I think your instincts are over zealous.
your (not legal) wives loving each other is not a threat to your relationship. It does not threaten your position as the man of the house, the leader of the harem, the focus of the relationship, and the only man fathering children with these women.

As for your claim that MC is sidelined... You are also putting far too much value in the piece of paper from the govt. Because that is what the official legal marriage is. A piece of paper from the govt.
Pretending that MC relationship is secondary because of that piece of paper is wrong. The only reason they don't both marry MC is that the govt won't give them the piece of paper, because the govt decided that incest and polygamy are illegal. But the govt will give them a piece of paper for each other because lesbian marriage is legal.

 

[Raziel_8]

As for your claim that MC is sidelined... You are also putting far too much value in the piece of paper from the govt. Because that is what the official legal marriage is. A piece of paper from the govt.
Pretending that MC relationship is secondary because of that piece of paper is wrong. The only reason they don't both marry MC is that the govt won't give them the piece of paper, because the govt decided that incest and polygamy are illegal. But the govt will give them a piece of paper for each other because lesbian marriage is legal.

By that logic Nasumi marring a girl is completely pointless. She could have just a married the MC, non official and be done with it, cause who cares about a official paper...
The fuck wants the main LI marrying another person, that's just utter garbage, doesn't matter if she is a harem member, neither do i want the MC marry a other member.
Also i don't share girls even in harem, so Natsumi going bi would already being crap, not to mention she's a yandere...you couldn't get it any more wrong with such a character, her willing to share is already stretching the bounds by a whole lot.

 

[fajiker145]

A "yandere" that doesn't care about the object of her obsession fucking other women, has other romantic interests which she lusts after just as much as the MC, even having sex with them without him. Yep, makes sense.

A "anti ntr Harem" protagonist that enjoys sharing his women and gets them married to someone else, all of them having separate feelings and relationships with each other to the point they dont need him around, they lust for each other and just have sex without him.

Sounds like the dude is just part of poly relationship where he is just one more dumbass, he isn't needed. A harem needs the man to be the central part and the one who unites them all, because they love him, romantically, and only him. That doesn't mean they can't love each other as family or friends as they share the same man, but the fact that you managed to get together 6 bitches and they all happen to lesbian/bi is fucking retarded and makes me facepalm every fucking time it happens, I'm fucking tired of it. Even having one lesbian fucks up the harem.


I get that there are a lot of "harem fans", who are actually poly fans that like to ruin all games with their cuck (yes, there is no other way to call someone that is ok with their women being intimate with someone else while they aren't even around) lesbian fetish, but its gotten so fucking retarded that they even be turning a yandere lesbian. Jfc.


Dont you all just stop for a moment, think about it a bit, and just go "wait, this is actually retarded"? Or is it that they dont know many women irl and thus dont know that 99.0999% have zero interest in doing lesbian shit unless they getting paid to shoot a porno?

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

By that logic Nasumi marring a girl is completely pointless. She could have just a married the MC, non official and be done with it, cause who cares about a official paper...
The fuck wants the main LI marrying another person, that's just utter garbage, doesn't matter if she is a harem member, neither do i want the MC marry a other member.
Also i don't share girls even in harem, so Natsumi going bi would already being crap, not to mention she's a yandere...you couldn't get it any more wrong with such a character, her willing to share is already stretching the bounds by a whole lot.

He fucks them both on their wedding night. Who do you fuck on your wedding night? Your bride/groom. Pretty evident that they both view MC as their groom regardless of what the magic piece of paper says.
Like you're valid for not liking lesbians in the harem, I disagree with you but if that's how you feel then you should either play the Natsumi solo path when it opens or play a different game. This one obviously wasn't meant for people with your views.
As for here being 'yandere' that's never really been accurate. Her yandere moments are far and few between and mostly comic relief. It's closer to an inside joke between her and the MC than an accurate depiction of her character.

 

[Juerhullycin]

I have observed that of people who dislike NTR, somewhere between 1/4th to 1/3rd consider lesbian relationship between their harem to be NTR. while the rest consider it to not count.

I understand where you are coming from when you say it is NTR, and while I disagree I am sympathetic to the fact you hold a different view and how it makes you feel. I too hate NTR.
but it is annoying that despite being sympathetic towards this minority, they always give me so much shit for not agreeing with them and keep on calling me a cuck. please stop suggesting / mentioning cuck games (where another man fucks your waifus) to me. It grosses me out every time you even mention them.

As someone in the "doesn't count" camp, I personally I think your instincts are over zealous.
your (not legal) wives loving each other is not a threat to your relationship. It does not threaten your position as the man of the house, the leader of the harem, the focus of the relationship, and the only man fathering children with these women.

As for your claim that MC is sidelined... You are also putting far too much value in the piece of paper from the govt. Because that is what the official legal marriage is. A piece of paper from the govt.
Pretending that MC relationship is secondary because of that piece of paper is wrong. The only reason they don't both marry MC is that the govt won't give them the piece of paper, because the govt decided that incest and polygamy are illegal. But the govt will give them a piece of paper for each other because lesbian marriage is legal.

lol you didnt get me at all, i have no problem with lesbian action between Harem members them marrying someone else is a fucking line i wont cross.

Thats clown talk with putting too much weight on a gov paper, even if i don't give a single shit about it. Everyone else and far more important every f*ing institution does.

You are official and pretty final out of the relationship if they marry. A Hospital wont contact you, the police wont contact you no matter what happens with them you are the fucking last person on planet earth that gets any Information if at all. Because you have absolutely no rights. If they get kids you have no rights.

to hide that you are in a relationship is a hilarious BS excuse if they both marry because how does it looks from the outside if MC knocks up his sisters wife and his sister is funnily enough okay with it? total normal behaviour. What when MCs sister gets pregnant? did she cheat on her wife and doesnt want to tell people who the dad is.

the complete scenario is Braindead and dev didn't think about it more then 5 seconds. If MC would marry the other girl as cover that would be at least logical, but would clash with Sis character. but fuck it not marrying MC also clashes with her character.

He fucks them both on their wedding night. Who do you fuck on your wedding night? Your bride/groom. Pretty evident that they both view MC as their groom regardless of what the magic piece of paper says.

so if they dont give a fuck about marriage why are they doing this clown show in the first place?

 

[harem.king]

You are official and pretty final out of the relationship if they marry. A Hospital wont contact you, the police wont contact you no matter what happens with them you are the fucking last person on planet earth that gets any Information if at all. Because you have absolutely no rights. If they get kids you have no rights.

You never had any of those legal rights to begin with because incest and bigamy are illegal.
And again, this is the GOVT. You are very hung up about the govt view of the relationship.
Not how the people involved treat it.

If MC would marry the other girl as cover that would be at least logical, but would clash with Sis character.

He did. In the marriage future event Yui is already the MC's legal wife.

so if they dont give a fuck about marriage why are they doing this clown show in the first place?

They do care about it. enough to have a ceremony and then secretly spend their wedding night with the MC.
But... you know, not sending your husband to prison is kinda important.

 

[Mommysbuttslut]

if MC knocks up his sisters wife and his sister is funnily enough okay with it?

Because you have absolutely no rights. If they get kids you have no rights.

Say they wanted a child they were both genetically related to so they did invitro with her wife's egg and her brother's sperm. They put him on the birth certificate so that if something happens to them then their child would remain in the family.

What when MCs sister gets pregnant? did she cheat on her wife and doesnt want to tell people who the dad is.

Say they used a sperm donor if someone asks. How do you think most lesbian couples end up having children without adopting? That would hardly be an abnormal explanation.
Like it's not really that hard to figure out how they'd get around those problems. Sis could put it in her will that in the event of her death her child goes to the MC. Could leave his contact info with the child's school and doctor as an emergency contact as well as an approved pick up. Any other rights he'd need are just a legal formality. Keeping the child in his life is really easy, especially given that this is a fantasy and we're not going to need to worry about whether or not they get into a nasty divorce battle in 10 years or w/e.

 

[Juerhullycin]

You never had any of those legal rights to begin with because incest and bigamy are illegal.
And again, this is the GOVT. You are very hung up about the govt view of the relationship.
Not how the people involved treat it.

He did. In the marriage future event Yui is already the MC's legal wife.

They do care about it. enough to have a ceremony and then secretly spend their wedding night with the MC.
But... you know, not sending your husband to prison is kinda important.

now i know for whom the chair in hotel rooms is, which is always conveniently placed with view of the bed, take care