Inex33

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Can u give me more detail? Im on the day after she got a job on cafe, at noon she said she want to eat at cafe, npc also she is cute on maid outfit but when i come in to find her i cant find her anywhere on maid cafe also npc inside said some1 she know is looking for her (idk if its me or L prob L since i cant call her) :cry: it makes me anxious

Edit: It would help alot if u can list out the sign - location. I havent know the map yet it prob took alot of time to find her and maybe its too late
she might be in the toilet in the cafe
 

Iexist

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Can u give me more detail? Im on the day after she got a job on cafe, at noon she said she want to eat at cafe, npc also she is cute on maid outfit but when i come in to find her i cant find her anywhere on maid cafe also npc inside said some1 she know is looking for her (idk if its me or L prob L since i cant call her) :cry: it makes me anxious

Edit: It would help alot if u can list out the sign - location. I havent know the map yet it prob took alot of time to find her and maybe its too late
In that situation, she's on the second floor, to the left (from the player perspective), near the bathrooms. You'll see L cornering her. If you are too late, she'll be with him either in the toilet or in the lounge, depending on how high her Submission is and how much Atmosphere was accumulated during the day. At that point, they can't be interrupted and MC will hear slutty sounds yada yada when approaching where they are but will refuse to look in closely. As per usual.

As for other situations... It's been too long since I played the game. I don't remember them all off the top of my head. Though most of them are fairly obvious and some of them can't happen anyway unless Kana's Submission stat is fairly high anyway... in which case you have an entirely different problem.

Just play the game dude. Half the fun is figuring things out.
 

4-kun

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Ok, so, the version I played was the 1.1 Translator version, uncensored and all that jazz... and I don't remember needing any save scumming to reach the True Ending. Hell, Kana can be fucked and even impregnated by Lawrence, and that doesn't actually prevent you from reaching the True Ending. The True Ending isn't the "No NTR ending", though you can certainly make it that way. It's the ending where the MC finds out all the truth and accepts everything about Kana, good and bad, and solves the issues in town before L can fully corrupt Kana. Additionally, depending on how you handle things MC can reach the point where they confront L about their blackmail of Kana, which causes any further NTR events to stop.

Now, yes, it takes a bit more effort if you want Kana to never get fucked by L. You probably can't avoid at least some breast groping during the day-time parts because it'll take a while until you get some decent cards and catalysts, at least, if you're aiming for this ending on the very first playthrough, but it's not difficult if you pay attention to the game's systems. Stopping the night events is easy too, given that Kana always gives a 30 minute notice to the MC about her location...

More importantly, you don't need to wait until the notice to find her.

It seems like a lot of people miss this, but Kana's location on the map changes on the dot when the hour changes, and when that happens you can find her before she calls. On top of that, the NPCs in each part of the city map give hints about her location that make it easier to find her. If she's in the center map for example, and at the maid-cafe working part-time, then the NPC there will comment about Kana in her work uniform being cute or something like that, and you can go in to check on her. If she's at the bar, the comment changes. So on and so form.

Quite frankly, one of my complaints was and still is that it's TOO easy to cock-block L once you figure out how the game works. In the day-time you can just make Kana invincible with some effort, on top of making things easier for her in general via combat + controlling her route. In the night-time she's too easy to find even without the text messages and/or calls.

For me, I'd have honestly added more night stuff for MC to do, so you genuinely have reasons to choose between protecting Kana and doing something else. Particularly if it's stuff that can only be done on weekdays, so you can't always take advantage of L going away for the weekend the way you can for night exorcisms. The other thing I'd have done would have been to tweak the spells and stuff a little so there's more viable combinations and whatnot, since the combat does get monotonous after a while outside of the boss fights.
Tbh I didn't know some of this things. That's another issue, many things are just hard to figure out, I've bet the game twice, NTR and True but never found a way to the dream world or the map for hospital )) also, as I already finished the NTR route I wanted to prevent the NTR for the true run, but couldn't always find Kana, mostly If townspeople said, that they don't know where she is. Day-time was no problem to prevent.
 

solarboy2011

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In that situation, she's on the second floor, to the left (from the player perspective), near the bathrooms. You'll see L cornering her. If you are too late, she'll be with him either in the toilet or in the lounge, depending on how high her Submission is and how much Atmosphere was accumulated during the day. At that point, they can't be interrupted and MC will hear slutty sounds yada yada when approaching where they are but will refuse to look in closely. As per usual.

As for other situations... It's been too long since I played the game. I don't remember them all off the top of my head. Though most of them are fairly obvious and some of them can't happen anyway unless Kana's Submission stat is fairly high anyway... in which case you have an entirely different problem.

Just play the game dude. Half the fun is figuring things out.
Tks for the reply, I'm the guy try to do perfect run every game (atleast not that try hard to minmax everything but if i can i will try to do :LOL:)
 

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Tbh I didn't know some of this things. That's another issue, many things are just hard to figure out, I've bet the game twice, NTR and True but never found a way to the dream world or the map for hospital )) also, as I already finished the NTR route I wanted to prevent the NTR for the true run, but couldn't always find Kana, mostly If townspeople said, that they don't know where she is. Day-time was no problem to prevent.
Ok... what you're saying is very weird. Dream world triggers whenever certain events with L happen, as a means of allowing the player to see them when the MC can't. It shouldn't be possible to reach the NTR ending and not have ANY of those trigger, unless you somehow prevented only specifically those events and, I dunno, let through only the events that can be seen via the porn shop or whatnot. Or you only let L act during the day but kept cock-blocking him at night, I suppose that also works.

As for the hospital maps, because if my memory isn't failing me, there's two of them... I don't remember where they were, but the info is either in this thread or the ulmf thread if you really need it. Indeed, a lot of this information has been floating around for ages, including info on card combinations as well as ending conditions and even how to beat the annoying hide and seek games...

That said, I personally didn't think that any of that stuff was that difficult to find. Especially the hospital stuff, since you have quite a while when you can explore as you wish on the first visit.
 

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Could not find a guide here, so just in case here a FAQ or smth:

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Took it from steam,poster said it was from dlsite.
 
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4-kun

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Ok... what you're saying is very weird. Dream world triggers whenever certain events with L happen, as a means of allowing the player to see them when the MC can't. It shouldn't be possible to reach the NTR ending and not have ANY of those trigger, unless you somehow prevented only specifically those events and, I dunno, let through only the events that can be seen via the porn shop or whatnot. Or you only let L act during the day but kept cock-blocking him at night, I suppose that also works.

As for the hospital maps, because if my memory isn't failing me, there's two of them... I don't remember where they were, but the info is either in this thread or the ulmf thread if you really need it. Indeed, a lot of this information has been floating around for ages, including info on card combinations as well as ending conditions and even how to beat the annoying hide and seek games...

That said, I personally didn't think that any of that stuff was that difficult to find. Especially the hospital stuff, since you have quite a while when you can explore as you wish on the first visit.
Maybe I mixing things up about the dream world, I played NTR as the game dropped (with cheats).
To be clear, I enjoyed the game overall, so I went back and did a true run recently, but I tried to make it as pure as possible this time. It's just I think, that part should've had more content and a bit more polished gameplaywise. Maybe they just run out of money.
 

dirtyoldman3

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The quality of this game is amazing. if this is the future or the RPG Maker games, i am happy.
Just wished they went for a different style as i personally do not like NTR. And i am trying hard to not get the other dude to lay hands on the girl. And yet i want to see the scenes.
Hope they will make quality like this, but with the normal combat rape style.
 

2022meinfzone

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The quality of this game is amazing. if this is the future or the RPG Maker games, i am happy.
Just wished they went for a different style as i personally do not like NTR. And i am trying hard to not get the other dude to lay hands on the girl. And yet i want to see the scenes.
Hope they will make quality like this, but with the normal combat rape style.
Actually, some features have been axed off the game because of covid, dev's limitations.
It would have been a wayyy better game. Sadly, that's life, I guess.
 
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elliochness

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The area on the right in the dream scene got unlocked and there's a bunch of NPCs standing there with lights I can turn on and off, but I have no idea what it's supposed to do. I don't suppose someone here knows what this is for?
 

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The area on the right in the dream scene got unlocked and there's a bunch of NPCs standing there with lights I can turn on and off, but I have no idea what it's supposed to do. I don't suppose someone here knows what this is for?
That open and closes shops in town so you can force better some scenes
 
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Sheppd

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There's so many mechanics that just aren't listed and aren't posted about. Like, I didn't realize the 3 card combination wasn't some "mystery specific card" with stuff like [The Hanged man + The Moon + ? ] just that it meant anything.

Stuff like having your house in town with Kana and (maybe?) some other stuff will block Lawrence from ever doing anything to her at night even when you raise her submission to just under the 1200 for the bad end. Things like how av production isn't possible with certain triggered things whatsoever. How there's certain rooms that actually have the harassment scenes and the rest don't matter so just focus on them when she's in red and you're trying for them
(Mansion:22
Church 80, 83, or 89
Hospital 56 57)
along with the other thing you might never realize, only call Kana when she's fighting if you're trying to trigger the harassment, it's dang near guaranteed to get Lawrence to act when she goes to rest. Much less the other aspect, if Kana's fully equipped she won't go to the rooms listed and get harassed to begin with outside of maybe once when the dungeon starts and she's near them, because she's actually loosing/gaining hp and the results are based on her stats and if she can even get to the end because of locked doors or the like.

Stuff like the "You're now unkillable" is simply to fight the red human shaped enemies in the old house. They drop absurdly strong equipment for Kana/MC and once you can kill a few you can start murdering the 3 bosses and farming the underground also. Something incredibly apparent if you get the bad end where the game forces you to do the final dungeon alone until you can.

Submission and love is easily tracked, but the NTR points are just a mystery of how/when/why because the game can disregard them/cut them off entirely after events.

Hell, does anything even mention the guy that sells fresh fish for that matter? There's a ton of stuff so it's hard to explain all of it!
 

Tyyyr

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The only thing I still haven't figured out is how to get the different AV's in the bar.
I think there are 4 in total, but I only ever get 1 or 3. I have no idea how to get 2 or 4 (the non-cuckoldry ones).
I must has something to do with alcohol, because you trigger 1 and 3 with the toys.
 
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