VN Ren'Py Nephilim [v0.4.9] [BuuPlays]

[NotNamedAtAll]

Eh..... As much as i can agree with most of what you said, this is a point that just bothers me. Like.... Eliza is a nice, caring person. Putting her on a dark path just doesn´t fit her character imho.

I agree. Dessolos is right and I think it's actually the whole point, she'll be in a different state. It's not like her personality while change, more like all the cursors pushed to the max. Remember when she felt powerless ? Impatient ? Angry ? Jealous ? In love ? Happy ? ... Welp, it will certainly be the MC job to make sure she doesn't kill another female character out of jealousy, become reckless from being impatient or vengeful and ... Well, if something go bad for said MC, I wouldn't like being in the receiving end of that bad girl.

For me it was a surprise of it being a vampire came out of know where but not the result of her getting some kind of divine powers.

Well, it's true that there was no real foreshadowing and the divine in question is pretty much unkown (like the whole pantheon actually).
I guess the purpose was to put Eliza in a situation close to the MC (supernatural entity, powerful, with troubles to manage powers and/or emotion...). Could've been a werewolf, or werekitten, vampire, or banshee... But all in all it give an interesting vibe, at least when looking at it as a changer/confirmation for the MC and his relationship(s).

 

[Krytax123]

For me it was a surprise of it being a vampire came out of know where but not the result of her getting some kind of divine powers.


I do agree but I can see it making sense cause didn't the MC's aunt or w/e at first say a new vampire can have hard time controlling their emotions or something and get out of control. So if that's the case I can see dark ish path making sense once in awhile just not 100% of the time.

I can see it happen easily to be honest, its just needs a trigger, Eliza obviosuly wont start to randomly kill innocent children or something like that.

But she is by far the most emotional character in the whole avn and her emotions being quadrupled by being a vampire now combined with a certain thirst for blood?

She obviously wont be cartonishly evil or sadistic but lets be honest, as soon as the mc is hurt/in danger/whatever Eliza will go beserk and kill everyone involved in this.

Shes fierce and loyal towards the mc to an amount which would make her open the doors to hell if it means getting back with him, even if it would deem humanity to be obliterated. She would imo literally do anything anything to rescue the mc, no matter if its ethical or not.

If the MC goes a dark path, she will still stick with him, she imo entirely commited to the mc without boundarys or without any way back, no matter what. Which is lovely and one of the reasons shes among my fav LI's of all avns but it isnt without risk depending on the state of the MC.

And if he would die, she would go out for eternal vengeance.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I can see it happen easily to be honest, its just needs a trigger, Eliza obviosuly wont start to randomly kill innocent children or something like that.

But she is by far the most emotional character in the whole avn and her emotions being quadrupled by being a vampire now combined with a certain thirst for blood?

She obviously wont be caronishly evil or sadistic but lets be honest, as soon as the mc is hurt/in danger/whatever Eliza will go beserk and kill everyone involved in this.

Shes fierce and loyal towards the mc to an amount which would make her open the doors to hell if it means getting back with him, even if it would deem humanity to be obliterated. She would imo literally do anything anything to rescue the mc, no matter if its ethical or not.

If the MC goes a dark path, she will still stick with him, she imo entirely commited to the mc without boundarys or without any way back, no matter what. Which is lovely and one of the reasons shes among my fav LI's of all avns but it isnt without risk depending on the state of the MC.

And if he would die, she would go out for eternal vengeance.

Its a bold decision by the dev to take this path. Eliza is the most popular character in this VN. The dev risks alienating a lot of readers if things go wrong. While I applaud the dev for an intriguing twist, sending Eliza down the dark path would be a step too far for me and I suspect for many readers as well.

 

[Krytax123]

Its a bold decision by the dev to take this path. Eliza is the most popular character in this VN. The dev risks alienating a lot of readers if things go wrong. While I applaud the dev for an intriguing twist, sending Eliza down the dark path would be a step too far for me and I suspect for many readers as well.

I mean i think its called dark path for a reason (instead of for example evil path) and as i mentioned i dont think she will ever go evil for the sake of it. And as were playing the MC ourselfs its unlikely that hes gonna die which would lead to Eliza probably changing a lot.

And while im not sure if Vampire is a great idea, Eliza needed something to level her up and become (somewhat) equal to the mc otherwise she would always been a liabilty as a battle companion, and theres no way she would have been okay with staying home all the time (and it wouldnt be safe anyway and would suck being departed with her nonstop like in the pirate chapters).

So far i will gladly take Eliza becoming an Vampire and strong herself over being the damsel in distress not being able to travel with the mc together.

And i think most Eliza fans should try to see it like that considering the last pirate chapters without her (which i didnt enjoyed).

Of course there could have been other solutions which would have may been better but were lacking lore about vampirisim in this world (or any other kind of possible ascension) to be really able to judge it.

But yeah, there's a possibility for it to ruin her character, i just hope it wont happen.

 

[Dessolos]

Its a bold decision by the dev to take this path. Eliza is the most popular character in this VN. The dev risks alienating a lot of readers if things go wrong. While I applaud the dev for an intriguing twist, sending Eliza down the dark path would be a step too far for me and I suspect for many readers as well.

I agree 100% would be a bit to much for me if her personality / character is changed to me at least to an extreme amount by being a dark character. Cause I love the Eliza we had from start till now. However with that being said id have no problem if she has moments where she does something that would be considered a dark path choice as long as it isn't done all the time.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

I mean i think its called dark path for a reason (instead of for example evil path) and as i mentioned i dont think she will ever go evil for the sake of it. And as were playing the MC ourselfs its unlikely that hes gonna die which would lead to Eliza probably changing a lot.

And while im not sure if Vampire is a great idea, Eliza needed something to level her up and become (somewhat) equal to the mc otherwise she would always been a liabilty as a battle companion, and theres no way she would have been okay with staying home all the time (and it wouldnt be safe anyway and would suck being departed with her nonstop like in the pirate chapters).

So far i will gladly take Eliza becoming an Vampire and strong herself over being the damsel in distress not being able to travel with the mc together.

And i think most Eliza fans should try to see it like that considering the last pirate chapters without her (which i didnt enjoyed).

Of course there could have been other solutions which would have may been better but were lacking lore about vampirisim in this world (or any other kind of possible ascension) to be really able to judge it.

But yeah, there's a possibility for it to ruin her character, i just hope it wont happen.

I agree with all your points. I wasn't a fan of the pirate chapters either.

If the dev takes Eliza down the dark path, as long as that stays a choice, I'm fine with it. I personally don't want to play the game with Eliza-gone-evil, but I have no problem with it being an option for those who do.

 

[molitar]

MC is a bit of an idiot especially when he was trained against monsters. You have to fucking crush the skull to kill a Skeleton and not fucking once did he try to destroy any of there bones.. what a damn idiot.

 

[Maviarab]

You have to fucking crush the skull to kill a Skeleton

Riggghht...cos that's common knowledge in a lore setting you are clueless about....everyone learns that shit right?

 

[PEscobar]

I think this game has been updated, or so it looks like it on the Patreon site.

 

[wiseold6996]

Riggghht...cos that's common knowledge in a lore setting you are clueless about....everyone learns that shit right?

But MC was specifically learning that shit

 

[Darknesssilent]

I think this game has been updated, or so it looks like it on the Patreon site.

Friday for the public release.

 

[PEscobar]

Just checked it seems the public release is up on the Patreon site.

 

[Bob69]

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[harem.king]

Will you give in to the powers of darkness.. Or will you be a symbol of hope?

power please and thank you.
give me dark powers

Of course there could have been other solutions which would have may been better but were lacking lore about vampirisim in this world (or any other kind of possible ascension) to be really able to judge it.

Vampire lore really should be available before actually making an IC decision about vampirism.
Since there are so many difference kinds of vampirism in fiction.

 

[onefingersalute]

awesome thanks for the update looks like it might be a shorter one this update by the changelog either way it is always fun playing your VN looking forward to this update and more

 

[Dessolos]

Short but decent update. While it's still too early to not worry entirely about how Eliza's personality may change cause of her change. This update left me feeling good about it so far as she doesn't seem to be changed that much yet other than being a vampire. So far I am actually liking the new Eliza but we will see if my opinion stays that way after several updates.

 

[Maviarab]

Short but decent update. While it's still too early to not worry entirely about how Eliza's personality may change cause of her change. This update left me feeling good about it so far as she doesn't seem to be changed that much yet other than being a vampire. So far I am actually liking the new Eliza but we will see if my opinion stays that way after several updates.

Just as long as Joshy doesn't start sucking on her t........eeth

 

[Harem4life]

So now Eliza is going around killing innocents? She was better left paralyzed.

And we are supposed to care for her? Fuck no

And don't give me "but but but she's a random NPC". She has become a monster now who will kill innocents if she's left loose.

 

[Krytax123]

Played the update a few days ago already and my immediate thought was..

MC: How much blood do you need?
Eliza: Yes.

I mean really? She just sucked a woman entirely out of blood during the night and is already thirsty the next morning?

How is this supposed to work if she stops draining her targets entirely, is she supposed to suck a bit of 20 different people everyday? lol

I like her being a vampire but the thought of her needing like two people's entire blood every day seems impractial

 

[Krytax123]

So now Eliza is going around killing innocents? She was better left paralyzed.

And we are supposed to care for her? Fuck no

And don't give me "but but but she's a random NPC". She has become a monster now who will kill innocents if she's left loose.

I mean .. in this case its really not she who's to blame lets be honest.

The MC turned her into a vampire but instead of overwatching her turning proccess, he thought its smart to just go to sleep and not worry about anything lol, he's just kind of an dumb idiot sometimes.

Like dude, just stay awake if you turn someone into a vampire and make sure she doesnt harm innocents in the procces, even when youre playing a MC without care or morals for innocents it should still be in his interrest to prevent anything which could traumatize Eliza (like killing a innocent woman ...).

Yeah, and if you really want to judge from a morality perspective, the mc is a monster too anyway.