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I was enjoying this up until it started being all "oh wow their dick is so much bigger". Literally the first interaction. That wasn't the premise of the game as advertised, nor was it at all stated during the buildup to the sharing. Pretty dumb to spring that on the player out of nowhere. Good luck with the development, and for those who enjoy that kind of shaming I wish you the best.
Not every character has the same personality and not every story reads the same :) I'm guessing you started with Mai's story. Try Annie. Even Mai's story goes in a direction that you might appreciate. But it's valid to stop at any time for any reason. Thanks for playing.
 

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my biggest pet peeve in NTR/Netorare games - them actually being NTS games. They get the cheating tag and the ntR tag but the protag is always aware of it and into it, and the cheatee is always in on the whole thing
few NTR games are actually NTR where the partner is just cheating and the protag knows but just enjoys it, and even fewer have the protag unaware but not stupid about it.
I actually agree with removing the tag NTR, because it's apparent that few really understand the complexity of those Japanese jargons: Netorare, netori and netorase. It would make things much easier by replacing them with Cuckolding, female pov cheating and open relationship.
 
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my biggest pet peeve in NTR/Netorare games - them actually being NTS games. They get the cheating tag and the ntR tag but the protag is always aware of it and into it, and the cheatee is always in on the whole thing
few NTR games are actually NTR where the partner is just cheating and the protag knows but just enjoys it, and even fewer have the protag unaware but not stupid about it.
Actually we only have 1 true NTS story which is Annie. I don't know if this is your first version but to explain, we have removed one character from the game and there are 2 NTR girls that are just getting reworks on their backend and will return, and one harder ntr character slated to come. Mai's story starts off as NTS (some people might not like that) but goes into NTR with some player choice dynamics.
 
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Actually we only have 1 true NTS story which is Annie. I don't know if this is your first version but to explain, we have removed one character from the game and there are 2 NTR girls that are just getting reworks on their backend. Mai's story starts off as NTS (some people might not like that) but goes into NTR with some player choice dynamics.
No, please ! Tell the story/stories like you (your team) feels. Everytime Devs listen to the audience it ends up in a disaster. Tell us your story, some pleople will like it, some others not. But it's normal. You can't please everyone and if you even try....at the end nobody will be happy. It ALWAYS happen like that.
 

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No, please ! Tell the story/stories like you (your team) feels. Everytime Devs listen to the audience it ends up in a disaster. Tell us your story, some pleople will like it, some others not. But it's normal. You can't please everyone and if you even try....at the end nobody will be happy. It ALWAYS happen like that.
Its not a community written project lol. I just ask them what themes they want to see. You can refer to our old polls on Patreon. It's just theme tags like "innocent", "tomboy" etc... and some pictures of potential girl directions. Nothing beyond that. I've had many people try to hijack story telling (they were being nice about what they like to see but persistent). I maintain creative control.
 

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No, please ! Tell the story/stories like you (your team) feels. Everytime Devs listen to the audience it ends up in a disaster. Tell us your story, some pleople will like it, some others not. But it's normal. You can't please everyone and if you even try....at the end nobody will be happy. It ALWAYS happen like that.
Oh, please don't fuss over. They are talking about tags more than the actual stories. The dev team made those adjustments apparently far earlier than the post discussing NTR and NTS, and this audience merely got frustrated by the confusing tags.
 

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I do have a question for any uploader/moderators if they catch wind of this. I added the gifs to the post but I have trouble seeing them in the preview of the thumbnail area of the list of games. The one where if I hover, it shows me images/animations. Did I upload them the wrong way?
For what it's worth, the game cycles through all 8 pictures and animates the ones which are animated, on the "Latest Games & Updates" page. Similarly, they load and play as animations if you click on the thumbnails in the OP to get the full version(s) So it seems it all works the way it does for other games around here, and you didn't do anything wrong.
 

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Mai's story starts off as NTS (some people might not like that) but goes into NTR with some player choice dynamics.
It could be a good idea to display the story's nature in the game , like : Annie's story (NTS)
 

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Oh, please don't fuss over. They are talking about tags more than the actual stories. The dev team made those adjustments apparently far earlier than the post discussing NTR and NTS, and this audience merely got frustrated by the confusing tags.
Hi, maybe you are right. It's just that I have seen too many controversity in F95 about storytelling and Tags. I trust the dev will keep creativity freedom. ;)
 

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I actually agree with removing the tag NTR, because it's apparent that few really understand the complexity of those Japanese jargons: Netorare, netori and netorase. It would make things much easier by replacing them with Cuckolding, female pov cheating and open relationship.
The complexity of the Japanese jargon is because they describe emotions, not actual acts. Netorare is when one feels pleasure along with displeasure from the feelings of anxiety associated with nonmonogamy (either real or imagined). Netorase describes when the protagonist doesn't have that associated angst with the nonmonogamy and only experiences pleasure from the experience. The thing is, two people can be put in the same situation and feel completely different things, so if it is netorare or netorase is really dependent on the point of view of the observer.

I think your categories are much better tags for describing what one might expect within a given game, as they describe the activity. Considering the fuss these games seem to cause, I feel like additional tags like consensual nonmonogamy and nonconsensual nonmonogamy would also be valid additions.
 
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I hate this new trend of "Look how I can make 5 different stories at the same time." What could possibly go wrong?
Finish one story. Then start another, for Christ’s sake.
Yeah it's a terrible approach. It virtually guarantees that the stories will never go anywhere. As soon as things start to heat up and the content that everyone wants seems to be imminent, then that storyline gets abandoned. Imagine authors did this... just spent years writing the first two chapters of a dozen different books. No bueno.
 

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I hate this new trend of "Look how I can make 5 different stories at the same time." What could possibly go wrong?
Finish one story. Then start another, for Christ’s sake.
I think the issue with Neto games is that most writers don't know where to go with them. They are usually pretty shallow beyond the initial premise, like a Saturday Night Live sketch that starts strong but quickly overstays its welcome. It usually becomes a corruption game where the girlfriend/wife does increasingly more risque stuff while the developer rations out the escalation as long as possible because they know there will be a point where they can't push it any further and that will be the end of the game because there's no real story to conclude. If you only have one story, then you reach that end faster and either have an abandoned game (which makes people wary of investing in your game in the future) or a game with an abrupt, unsatisfying, ending. If you have 5 stories, you can pad out the game for longer before everyone realizes that the emperor has no clothes.
 

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Videos don't work for me and Lily's story just stops progressing after Lisa says Dan has something he wants to talk to her about. No message about the end of current content either, I'm pretty sure there's supposed to be more but both Lisa and Dan just stop sending messages.

Any ideas as to what's going wrong?
same
 

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NOOO WHY NETORASE WHYYYYYYY

Mai was looking so promising then you have to fucking 'hey babe you should bang someone else' i just wanted her to cheat! :cry: :cry: :cry::cry:
 

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Why do I feel like some stories are missing? Now there's only 3? I could've sworn there were 5. And one of them is locked? Does someone have the 0.7 Patreon code?
 
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