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vampz

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I'll make things simple: I made a vote for this issue, and Supporters voted to bring Oliver back. I explained why I had to make him mandatory, explained the limitations of the game's format, and most people understood. I released the update and it was my most popular update ever. The handful of you complaining about this issue right now are basically the only ones doing it.
May I ask what the supporters thought about this update, that made it the most popular one yet?
Especially if the aspects that made it so popular would be guiding future updates, to try to retain that popularity
It would be interesting to understand what your patrons envision for the game, and how it might impact the direction of the game
 
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May I ask what the supporters thought about this update, that made it the most popular one yet?
Especially if the aspects that made it so popular would be guiding future updates, to try to retain that popularity
It would be interesting to understand what your patrons envision for the game, and how it might impact the direction of the game
I was a supporter for a while, unsubbed when 'slut era' seemed like it was going either nowhere or backwards, and have renewed interest after 0.29. I especially liked how this update had porn in it. I know this puts me in a minority on this forum, but it's kind of my kink to have an abundance of porn in my porn games. My condolences go out to all the rest who either want Nathan to jerk off on a plate for their dining pleasure, or for the story to turn into a wholesome tale where it's just lingerie selfies and asking for permission until the credits roll.
 

Trenia

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That's something Laura specifically agreed to. She enjoys it.

Just like your girlfriend would be free IRL to consent to a guy talking to her like that, Laura is free to consent to Oliver calling her a slut. That's her choice. I want her to be an interesting, free character, not exclusively an extention of your desires. And that implies having defined tastes, and making choices for herself.

Laura enjoys having a bull disrespecting her. She has fun with it, and if you understand what Netorase is, you'll have fun knowing she's enjoying herself.
Then remove the male protagonist tag from the game and put up female protagonist because clearly the MC doesn't matter from that point onwards anymore. The entire point of a relationship is the back and forth, if her desires are the only ones that matter then it's no longer a relationship, the MC is just a cuck to his previous partners whims.
There is a big difference between the MC calling her a little slut and somebody else calling her their little slut, the bulls are just interactive dildo's, they shouldn't get decisions and if he isn't comfortable with the MC being present then he is the one to leave and re-asses his position, not the MC.
The entire point of a bull is that they are there to perform for both partners wishes, not their own, if they want more or something different then they get told to go elsewhere to find that. Oliver getting autonomy and his opinion ranking above the MC's is a break in the entire trust process and kills the relationship. At that point it is purely cheating and nothing more.
We all know NTR is more popular than NTS on this board, which is fine, but don't try and present a game as one thing and make it another.

As I said, it's no issue to me, I simply won't play this game anymore, it's just a shame that once again another good game is ruined by turning into yet another boring NTR cuck game instead of a couple having fun in an open relationship together.
 

vampz

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I was a supporter for a while, unsubbed when 'slut era' seemed like it was going either nowhere or backwards, and have renewed interest after 0.29. I especially liked how this update had porn in it. I know this puts me in a minority on this forum, but it's kind of my kink to have an abundance of porn in my porn games. My condolences go out to all the rest who either want Nathan to jerk off on a plate for their dining pleasure, or for the story to turn into a wholesome tale where it's just lingerie selfies and asking for permission until the credits roll.
What do you mean when you say this update had porn in the game?
I'm really curious what about this update you see as porn, whereas previous updates weren't porn
Just want to make sure I actually understand your point
 

meowsasuke

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Our girl just make vanilla sex with the same guys always, its getting boring.

We should have a path more kinky, with strangers, sex in the nightclub, orgies, etc.

The writting is good, but its becoming the same old thing: The same guys doing the same sex, before MC gets home, share pictures in group with friends and thats it.
Yup the game started as something new and unique but now it’s turned into the literal definition of ai slop.
 
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luccel

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Aw ya my favorite part of every up date 5 guys that aren't subscribed cry about how the game needs to be more vanilla for them and this update was to ntr, then they yell at the dev for a few days before saying the won't play the game anymore and leave. After which we all go back to waiting for the next update and when that update comes out they are replaced with 5 almost clones crying about the same thing and the cycle repeats.
 
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Adamska

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First of all, you say you want to watch, but Oliver doesn't...so you either get to stay outside the room or not come to YOUR HOUSE at all...Bitch get the fuck out!
Yeah this moment shattered the hope of a successful Oliver return for me, personally.

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I'm an Oliver returns voter, so I'll take my lumps for being wrong (misplaced hope, personal preferences, yadda yadda). I still absolutely hate him, and it leads to dislike of Laura because she's his only enabler. The winning voter group indeed wanted him back, but the desired method of his return was different. I think this is important. Most of the audience voted for Oliver to come back with a Mea culpa/apology to Laura and MC. Basically explaining he went way overboard trying to impress Laura and including story beats with him learning to control his excitement and impulses. I still think this would have played better with the Dom readers than "he's cool now wink wink you'll see later" followed by whatever that scene's dialogue was (with maybe some code/trigger issues muddying the waters). Stag tried to write the apology route after the vote won, but said it didn't work and pivoted to the "redone Oliver" method of returning him to the story instead.

The reason apologetic Oliver didn't work makes more sense to me now that I've read 0.29. An Oliver who is clearly role playing an asshole wouldn't make for a truly disrespectful bull, which is for some reason integral to the story (and apparently it's now more important to Laura than MC's preferences). Laura being disrespected by Oliver and prioritizing his desires is de facto being disrespectful to MC. In retrospect, this dynamic was foreshadowed with Laura's interactions with Mike. She didn't stop the cheating talk roleplay with Mike when it made MC uncomfortable, she just stopped telling him what they did. Her prioritization of bull desires over MC is the specific thing that turns off many lifestyle partners. A Sub's deference to a Dom's desires is the dynamic that is important in a Dom/Sub relationship. If Dom MC's Sub does whatever they want, and what they want is a different Dom who constantly needles and belittles MC, they aren't "MC's Sub" anymore. The loss of status Laura imposes on MC when she's with Oliver is what the Sub/beta cuck readership (and Laura) loves, more power to preference, but it makes Laura repulsive to some readers at the same time.

What exactly is the "growth" that Doms are supposed to be seeing when Laura interacts with Oliver in this way? How is Laura behaving when she doesn't want something, versus when MC doesn't want something? Are there clear differences between Laura's time with Oliver and the Nathan threesome scene (which I loved, and many of the Sub/beta cucks in turn hated)? Yes, it's a silly little porn game - but it's built to be very immersive, so you're going to get readers self-inserting, investing time in the story and characters, not liking what's happening, and then showing up to share their opinions. Yes/YES/lehotface won't stop that.
 

Angelcrush

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For the longest time now, I have just waited for a guy I actually even want to see her with. Fucking Oliver isn't doing it for me at all.
Now she just does whatever she wants and we don't even get the choice to tell her, we don't like it this way... yeah I don't feel invested anymore.
I get it if we are on the super cuck route or whatever and she thinks that her making all decissions is what we want, but then the MC should have the possibility to correct her on that assumption, to tell her to stop.
 
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