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Yeah, pretty sure it was Layla, but honestly fucking her, knocking her up and only to then burn her is fun, she seemed rather shoked too :LOL:
(also i find it by far the most statisfying to burn the manipulativ, power hungry slut)

Thought i do agree, Belegarde is a huge risk, none wants overpowerd mages running arround and doing what ever they want, even more so as we can see, they aren't any better as normal humans when it comes to morals, greed, power, lust, bad decisions etc.
And yeah, i think Layla could actually be a usefull ally and she seems to have no problems using her power or that of the seers to help the MC if you help her.

I tried all three options before settling on a final choice. I also got a kick out of pretending to accept Layla’s deal and support her, only to betray her and send her to the pyre. It was pretty satisfying to be able to double-cross her like a total rat ! :p:ROFLMAO:

However, I finally sided against Belegarde, since this was a rational choice and the only smart move among those three to benefit MC in the long run. ^^
 
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the only person with fire left of the three is Layla
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Alright, I see what you mean. I should say, I sometimes have a bit of trouble with overly figurative or metaphoric language, especially in English, since it’s not my first language. ^^

I agree with your point, though, it feels like MC is gradually reaching a point where he’s starting to make important decisions for himself and for his future. He’s in the process of building himself up on a personal level, shaping his own identity.
 
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Yeah, pretty sure it was Layla, but honestly fucking her, knocking her up and only to then burn her is fun, she seemed rather shoked too :LOL:
(also i find it by far the most statisfying to burn the manipulativ, power hungry slut)

Thought i do agree, Belegarde is a huge risk, none wants overpowerd mages running arround and doing what ever they want, even more so as we can see, they aren't any better as normal humans when it comes to morals, greed, power, lust, bad decisions etc.
And yeah, i think Layla could actually be a usefull ally and she seems to have no problems using her power or that of the seers to help the MC if you help her.
I also condemned Layla, I thought she was the one, so there´s that. But I wanted to throw Belegarde in the fire too. I feel like either of them would be a menace in the long term.
 

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I also condemned Layla, I thought she was the one, so there´s that. But I wanted to throw Belegarde in the fire too. I feel like either of them would be a menace in the long term.
I don't think Belegarde is that scary, I think he is more manipulable and I don't think he will ever really be in control, Layla on the other hand would do anything and was also the actual culprit, so definitely not someone we want near power.
 

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I don't think Belegarde is that scary, I think he is more manipulable and I don't think he will ever really be in control, Layla on the other hand would do anything and was also the actual culprit, so definitely not someone we want near power.
Belegrade himself is not scary, the problem is he and his faction wants the seers go back to the world, something which i definitely wouldn't want to. These guys could pretty much do whatever...
Layla is definitely far more dangerous, depending on what her goals are, if she has no interest in the world that wouldn't be a large problem for us (well, maybe) and a deal with her could mean that she uses the seers for the MC if he needs them, a large help.
 

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I also condemned Layla, I thought she was the one, so there´s that. But I wanted to throw Belegarde in the fire too. I feel like either of them would be a menace in the long term.
Belegrade himself is not scary, the problem is he and his faction wants the seers go back to the world, something which i definitely wouldn't want to. These guys could pretty much do whatever...
Layla is definitely far more dangerous, depending on what her goals are, if she has no interest in the world that wouldn't be a large problem for us (well, maybe) and a deal with her could mean that she uses the seers for the MC if he needs them, a large help.
I was convinced Layla was the culprit, but also condemned Belegarde. Layla seemed more politically useful for reasons I've stated here before, and Belegrade as leader seemed like it'd be a disaster.
 

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He was the carbon copy of the last leader: looking into skirts that were not his own, antagonising the other men, openly frowning at their relationships with the other women - absolute power hungry Ted Bundy, Jarred Leto, Ezra Miller - guys looking to build a following of young impressionable women to use and abuse. He felt the other guy was impeding on his rise, but absolutely employed the same urges, same impulses and same political self-aggrandizing.
Belegrade as leader seemed like it'd be a disaster.
They were the past. They drove the coven into the sad state we find it in the game.
 

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I don't think Belegarde is that scary, I think he is more manipulable and I don't think he will ever really be in control, Layla on the other hand would do anything and was also the actual culprit, so definitely not someone we want near power.
That´s why I didn´t say scary, I said menace, as in he has the potential to fuck things up with they way he wanted to lead his faction.
 
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We don’t really know what Layla’s plans are once she takes over leadership of the Order of Solar Seers, if she even has any. She’s only expressed a strong desire to take control and, apparently, to make a name for herself and leave a legacy. You could say she’s grown tired of playing second fiddle and manipulating Da'kar and Belegarde behind the scenes just to wield influence from the shadows.

That said, compared to Belegarde, she’s the smarter one and more willing to strike a deal with us. She promised support in exchange for whatever backing we can offer. Also, Layla hasn’t voiced any ambitions regarding the mortal realm, unlike Belegarde. She made it clear she doesn’t care about the ideals held by either Solarists or Humanists. What truly matters to her is power, pure and simple, at the head of this Order.

Belegarde himself isn’t dangerous if you only consider his personality. He’s a weak, timid, cowardly man, lacking confidence both in himself and the authority he holds over Humanists. But you shouldn’t underestimate the damage someone like him could cause if he ends up leading the Solar Seers. It would be a disaster. He might not even win the election, even if spared, or he could continue to be manipulated by Layla if she’s still alive. Still, he’s unreliable, inconsistent, and seen as a radical within his own faction.

His political agenda is clearly dangerous. He aims to intervene in regional conflicts, maintain the Order’s independence from any state oversight, sell Seers’ services to governments, and grant them free rein. Imagine the consequences: prolonged, devastating wars if every state in the sector decides to deploy Seers within its armed forces, resulting in a situation that is more than chaotic and unstable.

If Belegarde even has a chance of gaining power and bringing his Order down to Terra, the chaos he could unleash through reckless, idealistic, and delusional decisions is completely unpredictable. This is exactly the kind of risk I prefer to avoid by supporting a potential ally, even if manipulative and opportunistic, rather than an unstable loose cannon like Belegarde.

He could also be fooled or fall under the influence of figures like Cicero or others. In any case, he’s potentially dangerous if left in power. Weak and uncertain personalities often wreak havoc in positions like this. Don’t be fooled into thinking their lack of confidence makes them harmless, especially when they hold all the levers of power.

They can easily establish a reign of terror just to assert authority, prove something to themselves, or eliminate real or imagined rivals under the pretense of potential threats.

Of course, the Dev could also be playing us and deceiving us. It’s possible that neither Belegarde nor Layla are truly good choices, and we might be surprised by the outcome of these decisions later on in the story. :p
 

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We don’t really know what Layla’s plans are once she takes over leadership of the Order of Solar Seers, if she even has any. She’s only expressed a strong desire to take control and, apparently, to make a name for herself and leave a legacy. You could say she’s grown tired of playing second fiddle and manipulating Da'kar and Belegarde behind the scenes just to wield influence from the shadows.

That said, compared to Belegarde, she’s the smarter one and more willing to strike a deal with us. She promised support in exchange for whatever backing we can offer. Also, Layla hasn’t voiced any ambitions regarding the mortal realm, unlike Belegarde. She made it clear she doesn’t care about the ideals held by either Solarists or Humanists. What truly matters to her is power, pure and simple, at the head of this Order.

Belegarde himself isn’t dangerous if you only consider his personality. He’s a weak, timid, cowardly man, lacking confidence both in himself and the authority he holds over Humanists. But you shouldn’t underestimate the damage someone like him could cause if he ends up leading the Solar Seers. It would be a disaster. He might not even win the election, even if spared, or he could continue to be manipulated by Layla if she’s still alive. Still, he’s unreliable, inconsistent, and seen as a radical within his own faction.

His political agenda is clearly dangerous. He aims to intervene in regional conflicts, maintain the Order’s independence from any state oversight, sell Seers’ services to governments, and grant them free rein. Imagine the consequences: prolonged, devastating wars if every state in the sector decides to deploy Seers within its armed forces, resulting in a situation that is more than chaotic and unstable.

If Belegarde even has a chance of gaining power and bringing his Order down to Terra, the chaos he could unleash through reckless, idealistic, and delusional decisions is completely unpredictable. This is exactly the kind of risk I prefer to avoid by supporting a potential ally, even if manipulative and opportunistic, rather than an unstable loose cannon like Belegarde.

He could also be fooled or fall under the influence of figures like Cicero or others. In any case, he’s potentially dangerous if left in power. Weak and uncertain personalities often wreak havoc in positions like this. Don’t be fooled into thinking their lack of confidence makes them harmless, especially when they hold all the levers of power.

They can easily establish a reign of terror just to assert authority, prove something to themselves, or eliminate real or imagined rivals under the pretense of potential threats.

Of course, the Dev could also be playing us and deceiving us. It’s possible that neither Belegarde nor Layla are truly good choices, and we might be surprised by the outcome of these decisions later on in the story. :p
While it's true that he could be a problem, Layla's plan involved Belegarde losing influence. Furthermore, if we execute Layla, Belegarde will confess to his guilt in front of a witness. I'm fairly confident that Belegarde is a problem that will solve itself.
 

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We don’t really know what Layla’s plans are once she takes over leadership of the Order of Solar Seers, if she even has any. She’s only expressed a strong desire to take control and, apparently, to make a name for herself and leave a legacy. You could say she’s grown tired of playing second fiddle and manipulating Da'kar and Belegarde behind the scenes just to wield influence from the shadows.

That said, compared to Belegarde, she’s the smarter one and more willing to strike a deal with us. She promised support in exchange for whatever backing we can offer. Also, Layla hasn’t voiced any ambitions regarding the mortal realm, unlike Belegarde. She made it clear she doesn’t care about the ideals held by either Solarists or Humanists. What truly matters to her is power, pure and simple, at the head of this Order.

Belegarde himself isn’t dangerous if you only consider his personality. He’s a weak, timid, cowardly man, lacking confidence both in himself and the authority he holds over Humanists. But you shouldn’t underestimate the damage someone like him could cause if he ends up leading the Solar Seers. It would be a disaster. He might not even win the election, even if spared, or he could continue to be manipulated by Layla if she’s still alive. Still, he’s unreliable, inconsistent, and seen as a radical within his own faction.

His political agenda is clearly dangerous. He aims to intervene in regional conflicts, maintain the Order’s independence from any state oversight, sell Seers’ services to governments, and grant them free rein. Imagine the consequences: prolonged, devastating wars if every state in the sector decides to deploy Seers within its armed forces, resulting in a situation that is more than chaotic and unstable.

If Belegarde even has a chance of gaining power and bringing his Order down to Terra, the chaos he could unleash through reckless, idealistic, and delusional decisions is completely unpredictable. This is exactly the kind of risk I prefer to avoid by supporting a potential ally, even if manipulative and opportunistic, rather than an unstable loose cannon like Belegarde.

He could also be fooled or fall under the influence of figures like Cicero or others. In any case, he’s potentially dangerous if left in power. Weak and uncertain personalities often wreak havoc in positions like this. Don’t be fooled into thinking their lack of confidence makes them harmless, especially when they hold all the levers of power.

They can easily establish a reign of terror just to assert authority, prove something to themselves, or eliminate real or imagined rivals under the pretense of potential threats.

Of course, the Dev could also be playing us and deceiving us. It’s possible that neither Belegarde nor Layla are truly good choices, and we might be surprised by the outcome of these decisions later on in the story. :p
While everything you’ve said is likely true, there is one thing you forgot to mention…

… Layla is a sexy Seer who wants to have our baby. Nothing more need be said; having a Seer child could prove extremely beneficial to MC in the long run.
 

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While it's true that he could be a problem, Layla's plan involved Belegarde losing influence. Furthermore, if we execute Layla, Belegarde will confess to his guilt in front of a witness. I'm fairly confident that Belegarde is a problem that will solve itself.

I don’t think things necessarily play out the way you describe here. For starters, it’s likely Belegarde said what he did to try and protect Layla. Besides, most people probably suspect, if not know outright, that he has feelings for her. In a tight-knit group where everyone’s known each other for years, these kinds of things don’t stay hidden for long.

There’s also a big difference between being directly guilty of murder, standing by and doing nothing, and simply being accused of benefiting politically from Da’kar’s death, whether those accusations are true or not. Luciana points out that if Layla survives, she could use Belegarde’s damaged reputation from this murder to keep manipulating him, assuming he becomes the new Archseer. Even if Belegarde wins and Layla lets him have his way, she’d still have enough leverage to blackmail him and use him for her own goals.

Finally, getting rid of Layla and leaving Belegarde as the only serious candidate actually goes against what you’re saying. By doing that, it doesn’t matter if some people suspect him of profiting from Da’kar’s death or even being responsible. You’re wiping out every other real challenger for the Archseer election, which could easily give Belegarde a win by default if no one else steps up or has the popularity or charisma to take him on.

In this scenario, he’d be the only faction leader left standing. Zehra isn’t interested in politics, and the Solarists will probably be divided and leaderless, likely wasting their time fighting over who should replace Da’kar.

Layla, on the other hand, had the advantage. She could play both sides and rally supporters from each camp. Plus, she was in the perfect spot to take over the Solarists, as Da’kar’s official assistant with the most influence.
 
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While everything you’ve said is likely true, there is one thing you forgot to mention…

… Layla is a sexy Seer who wants to have our baby. Nothing more need be said; having a Seer child could prove extremely beneficial to MC in the long run.

This is probably the one and only reason that truly matters in the end, get this booty and inseminate her! :p:ROFLMAO:
 
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Finally, getting rid of Layla and leaving Belegarde as the only serious candidate actually goes against what you’re saying. By doing that, it doesn’t matter if some people suspect him of profiting from Da’kar’s death or even being responsible. You’re wiping out every other real challenger for the Archseer election, which could easily give Belegarde a win by default if no one else steps up or has the popularity or charisma to take him on.
The suspicion that he was the one who killed Da'kar, Da'kar's girlfriend who can testify that Belegarde confessed to having done it or even the possibility of it coming to light that he covered for Layla or his simp-like behavior towards Layla: these are all elements that decrease his charisma drastically.
 

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The suspicion that he was the one who killed Da'kar, Da'kar's girlfriend who can testify that Belegarde confessed to having done it or even the possibility of it coming to light that he covered for Layla or his simp-like behavior towards Layla: these are all elements that decrease his charisma drastically.

It’s not as simple as it seems. First, an investigation took place, followed by an accusation, which eventually led to Layla’s execution. Zehra, for her part, mainly testified during the inquiry. Given her jealousy of Layla, it’s entirely possible she believed Layla was guilty after the execution.

People likely know Belegarde was obsessively in love with Layla. They may also be aware he took the blame to protect her, hoping to save her from execution. I’ve tried to highlight nuances between suspicion, damaged reputation, and contrasting opinions: some might see him as Da'kar’s murderer, while others might think he took advantage of Da’kar’s death to advance politically, without being directly involved in the killing.

It’s also worth noting that Da’kar wasn’t exactly well-liked. The investigation revealed that many men envied or even despised him because of his affairs with women already committed to others, not to mention his flirtatious behavior and wandering eye. As a result, some might not hold his role in Da'kar's death against him, regardless of whether they believe he was involved.

Despite his unpleasant personality and fringe politics, Belegarde managed to hold onto leadership of the Humanists for some time. Without strong opposition and with the Solarists fragmented and leaderless, there wasn’t much to challenge him or rally support for other candidates.

I’m not saying he would definitely win the election, but he still has a chance, despite what you seem to assert so decisively. His political future is far from decided, especially if one decides to have Layla killed instead of him.
 
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It’s not as simple as it seems. First, an investigation took place, followed by an accusation, which eventually led to Layla’s execution. Zehra, for her part, mainly testified during the inquiry. Given her jealousy of Layla, it’s entirely possible she believed Layla was guilty after the execution.

People likely know Belegarde was obsessively in love with Layla. They may also be aware he took the blame to protect her, hoping to save her from execution. I’ve tried to highlight nuances between suspicion, damaged reputation, and contrasting opinions: some might see him as Da'kar’s murderer, while others might think he took advantage of Da’kar’s death to advance politically, without being directly involved in the killing.

It’s also worth noting that Da’kar wasn’t exactly well-liked. The investigation revealed that many men envied or even despised him because of his affairs with women already involved with others, not to mention his flirtatious behavior and wandering eye. As a result, some might not hold his role in Da'kar's death against him, regardless of whether they believe he was involved.

Despite his unpleasant personality and fringe politics, Belegarde managed to hold onto leadership of the Humanists for some time. Without strong opposition and with the Solarists fragmented and leaderless, there wasn’t much to challenge him or rally support for other candidates.

I’m not saying he would definitely win the election, but he still has a chance, despite what you seem to assert so decisively. His political future is far from decided, especially if one decides to have Layla killed instead of him.
I can't say it as an absolute, but I have seen several rising stars in politics vanish into thin air for alleged scandals far less serious than the one we are talking about.
 

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I can't say it as an absolute, but I have seen several rising stars in politics vanish into thin air for alleged scandals far less serious than the one we are talking about.

I don’t deny that these things happen, as I’ve seen them myself in my country’s political life. That said, the opposite is also true historically, many men, even those accused of being involved, whether directly or indirectly, in political assassinations, still managed to rise to power.
 

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I don’t deny that these things happen, as I’ve seen them myself in my country’s political life. That said, the opposite is also true historically, many men, even those accused of being involved, whether directly or indirectly, in political assassinations, still managed to rise to power.
You're absolutely right about that, I think I personally don't see him as the kind of politician who spins such scandals around and presents himself as a strong leader, the "I'm dangerous for the establishment and therefore I'm being falsely slandered" type.
 
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