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Burt

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HoneyGames there's a problem with keeping relationship stat in range 0-100 with following characters especailly: madelyne, andrea, ashley, tatiana (probably others as well).

i found your first leveling as early as day 48, for luana and mark only.

personaly i'l be ok with more flexible stats. that can make your life much easier, and your script files less robust.

if you like to keep them under control, the only correct way is to check stats after each event/interaction, or at least on daily level. but, it's not the same. what i'm talking about is that if you raise you stat with a character above 100 and than make a really bad move (the same day), it won't be so costly as if your stat was leveled to 100 before that bad move. i'm not sure how big is probability of something like that to actually happen, because i do not see a chance for so much interactions with one character during a single day.

i have zero experience with renpy, so i wonder if creating one file for checking and leveling stat for all ingame characters would create a real big lag in game. i'm talking about a jump at the end of each day to that one specific file and back. now imagine all following lines for all ingame character plus jump-back lines including more "if", more "else" for every day (talking about over 100 days, maybe 140, dev mentioned v2.0 as possibe ending for this season). once upon a time i tried something in lua script, and it was a catastrofic, because of too many "if"s. really wondering how big lag this will cause?
Code:
    if charactergood >= 100:
        $ charactergood = 100
    else:
        if charactergood <= 0:
            $ charactergood = 0
        else:
            pass
anyway, i bet you guys and girls (and all others), with much more knowledge than me have some opinions about my thinking out loud.
Its difficult renpy is good for these type of games but if the games have massive branches it's a pain to bug test it is not friendly to local code search so sadly you need to page search everything you have done or create a massive check list batch file which in its self can contain errors of omission
Bug testing other code is not as arduous but as you will find renpy games tend to get many updates bug/fixes etc when spelling or omission occur (typo's only being a code issue if they are non dialog assuming the dialog is not also instruction set)
So some devs make simplistic games to reduce their errors but some also have better skills and combine code more efficiently thus reducing the amount of separate pages of code to error check.
All devs like bug testing help and constructive comment like yours
 
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HoneyGames there's a problem with keeping relationship stat in range 0-100 with following characters especailly: madelyne, andrea, ashley, tatiana (probably others as well).

i found your first leveling as early as day 48, for luana and mark only.

personaly i'll be ok with more flexible stats. that can make your life much easier, and your script files less robust.

if you like to keep them under control, the only correct way is to check stats after each event/interaction, or at least on daily level. but, it's not the same. what i'm talking about is that if you raise you stat with a character above 100 and than make a really bad move (the same day), it won't be so costly as if your stat was leveled to 100 before that bad move. i'm not sure how big is probability of something like that to actually happen, because i do not see a chance for so much interactions with one character during a single day.

i have zero experience with renpy, so i wonder if creating one file for checking and leveling stat for all ingame characters would create a real big lag in game. i'm talking about a jump at the end of each day to that one specific file and back. now imagine all following lines for all ingame character plus jump-back lines including more "if", more "else" for every day (talking about over 100 days, maybe 140, dev mentioned v2.0 as possibe ending for this season). once upon a time i tried something in lua script, and it was a catastrofy, because of too many "if"s. really wondering how big lag this will cause?
Code:
    if charactergood >= 100:
        $ charactergood = 100
    else:
        if charactergood <= 0:
            $ charactergood = 0
        else:
            pass
anyway, i bet you guys and girls (and all others), with much more knowledge than me have some opinions about my thinking out loud.
the if/else it's exactly what I use
I know sometimes I don't place it but now in the rebuilding I'm taking more care about it and I'm putting this levelling more often.
I mean if stats go over 100 isn't a big problem.
and doesn't make big lag. I mean, the game is full of that if/else about anything. for a pc is a really easy calculation.
 

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Its difficult renpy is good for these type of games but if the games have massive branches it's a pain to bug test it is not friendly to local code search so sadly you need to page search everything you have done or create a massive check list batch file which in its self can contain errors of omission
Bug testing other code is not as arduous but as you will find renpy games tend to get many updates bug/fixes etc when spelling or omission occur
So some devs make simplistic games to reduce their errors but some also have better skills and combine code more efficiently thus reducing the amount of separate pages of code to error check.
All devs like bug testing help and constructive comment like yours
Yeah the bug issues is really big. I've got a lot of bugs that are just typo
anyway that code for the levelling of the stats isn't a problem. I have that the codes for all the characters in a page and I just copy paste the code.
Most of typo are during dialogue. Anyway I'm rebuilding, I hope there will be less problems
 
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For me, getting Melissa to 100 was not too difficult. Friendly, but competitive banter between me David and her seems to work well. (Similar too Zoe in the Roadhouse). For me...similar to the sex score, 100 is a relationship pass. Anything above I see as a bonus.

I see that Honeygames sometimes adjust 100+ scores back to 100, so I think 100 is like a full marks for a relationship.

And yes, some girls are very difficult to get their scores up (Irene, Kirsten and maybe even Melissa), so those girls need some long term attention before anything happens.

Irene is my ultimate girl, so I'm hoping I get a shot with her sometime in the future. I will stop with all my other flings if I get her... ;)
the limit between bad and good relationship is usually at 50.
sometimes you need 60/70/80 but it's little things like a different answer from the characters.
I mean you say something and if character stats is lower than 50 there is an answer.. if it's for example between 50/70 there will be another answer and over 70 another.
or sometimes a girl first time need you have 60 or more instead of 50.
I've noticed in this built some characters are easy to take on 100. In next version maybe it will be a little bit harder.
I'm tracking all the time you talk about a character with another character.
I'm also defining deeply the MC characters. there will be different "subject" for example "violence", "respect for women", "Interest"... so, for example if you say you're against violence so much time to some character you'll probably will not able to say something diffent or do something violent (For example kick someone)...
 

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Wow, that game really is something, I'm not really sure yet if I should hate it or love it. :unsure:

Spoiler: it's somewhere in-between.

I really like some aspects of the game, especially that often it doesn't really feel like a porn game. Although the ultimate goal of game for most players (if you choose to play the game this way) is to screw as many women as possible, I really appreciate that the women aren't just waiting for their prince charming but actually exist without the player. A big compliment to the dev for that approach.

However the game REALLY lacks polish and the quality (both on the story and technical side) is extremely fickle.

If I understand it correctly, the dev is working on a remake or rebuild of the game. While normally this isn't the best sign for a game, this game could really benefit from it, because I don't think the dev is lacking ideas. In fact my biggest criticism would be that he isn't taking enough time to implement all his ideas so the game kind of feels like a patchwork that is barely holding itself together rather than a polished game with a solid groundwork.

And yeah, the game URGENTLY needs a competent translator. The writing is really confusing at times and extremely diminishes the enjoyment while playing the game. Hint to the dev: Maybe you can even find someone here on the site. There is a development section.

My advice to the dev would be: TAKE YOUR TIME. The game is pretty unique but my fear is that each update adds a little more confusion and new problems. Focus a little more on quality rather than quantity. Then this game could really find its place.
 
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Alfius

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Wow, that game really is something, I'm not really sure yet if I should hate it or love it. :unsure:

Spoiler: it's somewhere in-between.

I really like some aspects of the game, especially that often it doesn't really feel like a porn game. Although the ultimate goal of game for most players (if you choose to play the game this way) is to screw as many women as possible, I really appreciate that the women aren't just waiting for their prince charming but actually exist without the mc. A big compliment to the dev for that approach.

However the game REALLY lacks polish and the quality (both on the story and technical side) is extremely fickle.

If I understand it correctly, the dev is working on a remake or rebuild of the game. While normally this isn't the best sign for a game, this game could really benefit from it, because I don't think the dev is lacking ideas. In fact my biggest criticism would be that he isn't taking enough time to implement all his ideas so the game kind of feels like a patchwork that is barely holding itself together rather than a polished game with a solid groundwork.

And yeah, the game URGENTLY needs a competent translator. The writing is really confusing at times and extremely diminishes the enjoyment while playing the game. Hint to the dev: Maybe you can even find someone here on the site.

My advice to the dev would be: TAKE YOUR TIME. The game is pretty unique but my fear is that each update adds a little more confusion and new problems. Focus a little more on quality rather than quantity. Then this game could really find its place.
I do think you are correct, but for me, I like the way the game is at the moment.
As I can understand code, most bugs are really just typos or typo related issues. So for me I just fix it and pass the info on to Honeygames in the forum.

There was only one major issue I found in one of the paths (Martina) a couple of months ago through my entire playthrough, that Honeygames already fixed.

Personally, (And I know I'm selfish) I prefer the large a amount of content, as that is what make this game different from the other games. The Cast of this game alone is 30-40+ unique character. That is unheard of in any other game I have played on here. That's what make me love this game. The complexity and interaction between all these characters makes this game my current favourite game on this site. And I'm also alway impatient for new versions...I just love this game so much!

In any case...I think your comments are valid. Personally, the language and occational bug does not bother me too much.
I already offered Honeygames to playtest his new releases going forward if he chooses to do so.
I think, just a bit of testing a couple of days before release would do wonders for the game in terms of bugs.
 
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Spuckspast

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Dec 25, 2018
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Hi
I don't know why, maybe I'm doing something wrong but there is a bug with Yvette
I can't reach the event where she fucks me in front of Kirsten or when she wants me to kiss her feet
After meeting her in a bar I can activate her femdom path by saying I want to be dominated but then in the gym, she says that she made me lick cum from her floor at her house but I never saw that event.
 

HoneyGames

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Wow, that game really is something, I'm not really sure yet if I should hate it or love it. :unsure:

Spoiler: it's somewhere in-between.

I really like some aspects of the game, especially that often it doesn't really feel like a porn game. Although the ultimate goal of game for most players (if you choose to play the game this way) is to screw as many women as possible, I really appreciate that the women aren't just waiting for their prince charming but actually exist without the player. A big compliment to the dev for that approach.

However the game REALLY lacks polish and the quality (both on the story and technical side) is extremely fickle.

If I understand it correctly, the dev is working on a remake or rebuild of the game. While normally this isn't the best sign for a game, this game could really benefit from it, because I don't think the dev is lacking ideas. In fact my biggest criticism would be that he isn't taking enough time to implement all his ideas so the game kind of feels like a patchwork that is barely holding itself together rather than a polished game with a solid groundwork.

And yeah, the game URGENTLY needs a competent translator. The writing is really confusing at times and extremely diminishes the enjoyment while playing the game. Hint to the dev: Maybe you can even find someone here on the site. There is a development section.

My advice to the dev would be: TAKE YOUR TIME. The game is pretty unique but my fear is that each update adds a little more confusion and new problems. Focus a little more on quality rather than quantity. Then this game could really find its place.
I love to have feedback. And I love this kind of feedback
First of all: I'm calling it rebuilding but that's not completely correct.
Some paths in the game had problems. To solve these problems, I decided to go back and rewrite some small parts of the game. As I was doing that, I realized how much better I could have done other things. So I decided to keep the same structure, but I was able to expand the links between the various stories. Having already understood what might happen next, I was able to set up some stats from the beginning to track some variables.
So now I'm just checking the whole game and correcting/adding. Some of the relationships hadn't been fully tracked at first, i.e. there were some data that I hadn't tracked and that would have been useful in the rest of the game to connect other events.
Then, forcing players to start from scratch, I decided to add various things to make the replay less boring. as well as make new renderings of some scenes that I didn't like.
Above all I have rendered sex scenes since the structure of the sex scenes will be different. but it will be easier to understand it when you play it rather than explain it now.
Maybe after you play it I can tell you what other stats move during the sex scenes.
 

Alfius

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Hi
I don't know why, maybe I'm doing something wrong but there is a bug with Yvette
I can't reach the event where she fucks me in front of Kirsten or when she wants me to kiss her feet
I managed to get that scene without issues, so it's not a bug. It might be that you are not going to the Party or are not invited to go the party or your relationship with Yvette, Kirsten or Maude is not high enough. Or you might already have something else planned for that night. There is a lot of factors that determine if you get a certain scene.

After meeting her in a bar I can activate her femdom path by saying I want to be dominated but then in the gym, she says that she made me lick cum from her floor at her house but I never saw that event.
I have not played the Yvette Fendom path, so can not comment on this.
 
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HoneyGames

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Hi
I don't know why, maybe I'm doing something wrong but there is a bug with Yvette
I can't reach the event where she fucks me in front of Kirsten or when she wants me to kiss her feet
After meeting her in a bar I can activate her femdom path by saying I want to be dominated but then in the gym, she says that she made me lick cum from her floor at her house but I never saw that event.
I think in the last version I've released there could be some bugs caused by the rebuilding.
I suggest to play an older version and switch to the new one for the content of the last 2 weeks.
Anyway in 10 days the rebuilded version should be ready
 

yggdral

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Thanks for the tip,
Girls like maude, Ashley or even yvette where way easier to get their relationship point up, only Melissa was hard in my playthrough. it took me while to even get near 70 while the others are way over 100

btw is this correct: i have ashley right or even maude on 124 but the max point says 100 it says 124 of 100.
basically for melissa you need to be confident, dont get to cocky tho. respect her dont be a jerk (towards anybody close to her really), and most importantly dont be a boring person. i can give u a walkthrough if you want to get melissa points maxed, she is my favourite after all :)
 
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PeraDrnda

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Does anybody know how to give keesha rebecca video trough console commands?
if you can't open console i suggest you get file from this post:
https://f95zone.to/threads/enabling-developer-command-consoles-in-renpy.113/
download file in option 2.
unpack the file in the "/game" folder.

enter the game, reach day 79, and when you meet keesha, open the console (shift+o)
enter following variables (i added enough stuff to be sure that things work):
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close console with "escape".
support adele's path through dialog, and voila you got a bj from keesha.
hope that's what you wanted.
 

Dependable_223

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basically for melissa you need to be confident, dont get to cocky tho. respect her dont be a jerk (towards anybody close to her really), and most importantly dont be a boring person. i can give u a walkthrough if you want to get melissa points maxed, she is my favourite after all :)
thanks yes i would like a walktrue for melissa.
 

MRMIdAS2k

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Right, so I downloaded this game, and it says I've missed a month, what gives? Where do I play this missing month?

Also, why does the intro ask for my name twice?
 

yggdral

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thanks yes i would like a walktrue for melissa.
Okay here's the walkthrough.. this is only to get melissa's maxed points only up untill her sex scene from 1.1..
so the choices are only when you talk to melissa or talk about melissa with someone that can affect her points directly..
there's also choices with other characters that could open different conversation to add melissa's points..
Note:
it doesn't matter if you being a jerk towards david or not in other conversation.. and this probably not complete because a lot of connection between other characters so the playthrough might be a little bit different if you chase other girls (for example michelle, because they hate each other). this walkthrough based from my playthrough where i chase melissa mainly without thinking about other girls..

I hope i made it detailed for you.. enjoy..

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Bom969

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The game gets over after the sex scene with Ashley that was in version 0.8. Am I missing something here or is it really the last scene from the game for now?
 

Alfius

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The game gets over after the sex scene with Ashley that was in version 0.8. Am I missing something here or is it really the last scene from the game for now?
It does not sound right, On what day are you?
The game is up to day 84.

Upload your save just before sex scene if you want me to have a look.
You are playing version 1.2?
 

IRLover

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half a year later mc still comes early... , still no stamina sign in the game, or a way to control his urges to come early every time, unless iam blind which i hope is the case :(
 
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