VN Ren'Py New Horizon [v0.3] [KawaiiSukebe]

[iIIusory]

I mean true the blackmail was a terrible way to start it I mean I didn't like. The difference between You and I and simply our personalities see things differently where I can understand and forgive her for what she has done because I can tell she feels nothing but regret and trying to make up for it. So to me it shows she isn't a terrible person , just someone that acted without thinking and acted quickly and made a mistake cause she was scared we knew her secret. So I find her easy to forgive and trust because of this.

your mistake was thinking critically and not seeing everything in black and white. so obviously you must have a blackmailing kink/s

 

[YogSothoth1982]

I mean true the blackmail was a terrible way to start it I mean I didn't like. The difference between You and I and simply our personalities see things differently where I can understand and forgive her for what she has done because I can tell she feels nothing but regret and trying to make up for it. So to me it shows she isn't a terrible person , just someone that acted without thinking and acted quickly and made a mistake cause she was scared we knew her secret. So I find her easy to forgive and trust because of this.

I can forgive her. But wanting the MC to start a romantic relationship with her is something that will never happen. That option died definitively when she blackmailed the MC, and there's no way to revive it.

 

[Chris2041]

I can forgive her. But wanting the MC to start a romantic relationship with her is something that will never happen. That option died definitively when she blackmailed the MC, and there's no way to revive it.

For me the problem is i been in some really bad relationships and know how some girls can be really manipulatives and make much bigger problems for some tiny stupid things so for me a girl that my first interaction is she blackmails me and force me to join his group is already some red flags imagine if you are dating her she would be the typical that holds all the bad shit always to make you feel bad and make you feel bad
I get she had her reasons and she feels bad and want to apologize i will forgive her but she only gonna be at much friends very bad first impresions .

 

[Dessolos]

I can forgive her. But wanting the MC to start a romantic relationship with her is something that will never happen. That option died definitively when she blackmailed the MC, and there's no way to revive it.

Yeah I get it for me personally I don't let a bad first impression / 1 bad mistake sway my decision to be honest. ( Unless that bad mistake is something life changing and something I can't get over). As for me I may discover it was just simply a very bad first impression and I love everything else about them or they are more than I thought they are. So I would of never found that out if I let their first impression decide how I treat them or like them.

I do get it first impression especially bad ones can matter alot more to others like yourself and will effect your interest in them. I'm just more understanding than most I feel , so I don't let such things decide for me.

 

[Daermon420]

As for me I may discover it was just simply a very bad first impression and I love everything else about them or they are more than I thought they are.

This right here is why even though I don't like that she blackmailed the MC I ultimately didn't mind. Yes she made a bad first impression but as we get to know her it becomes clear that she never had any bad intentions toward the MC. She did it entirely in the interest of her own self preservation. It shows there's more to her character.

Which to me is great, because it shows the dev is actually thinking about what the characters other than the MC would believably do in a given situation. She did what made the most sense for her to do at that time. Why would she care about hurting the feelings of some guy she doesn't know over preserving her own secrets? The vast majority of people will look out for their own self-interest over the feelings of some stranger most of the time, especially when their own safety is at stake. She's a character with some actual thought put into her, not a generic archetype like most of the side characters and love interests in many of the games here.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

Yeah I get it for me personally I don't let a bad first impression / 1 bad mistake sway my decision to be honest. ( Unless that bad mistake is something life changing and something I can't get over). As for me I may discover it was just simply a very bad first impression and I love everything else about them or they are more than I thought they are. So I would of never found that out if I let their first impression decide how I treat them or like them.

I do get it first impression especially bad ones can matter alot more to others like yourself and will effect your interest in them. I'm just more understanding than most I feel , so I don't let such things decide for me.

Not every bad first impression is necessarily equally bad. What I don't like is blackmail. If it were another bad start, it's possible (depending on the situation) that I'd have no problem forgiving the LI and starting a romantic relationship with her, but blackmail is something I absolutely can't stand. You've seen me in other game threads, and you'll have seen how much I dislike blackmail whenever it comes up.

 

[Juerhullycin]

So to me it shows she isn't a terrible person

This right here is why even though I don't like that she blackmailed the MC I ultimately didn't mind. Yes she made a bad first impression but as we get to know her it becomes clear that she never had any bad intentions toward the MC. She did it entirely in the interest of her own self preservation. It shows there's more to her character.

if your instinct tells you the person who saved you and your friend can't be reasoned with, so you need to resort to destroying their life. That makes you an evil person. Her gut reaction was to destroy an innocent bystander that got him self in danger to help you.

Everything since then is just manipulative because she needs MC.

She could have asked him to keep it quiet, he was clearly ready to help them.
She could have bribed him to stay quiet, with information about his dad's case.

from all the options she had, she jumped to Blackmail via made-up sexual assault charges.

She is a psychopath even to entertain that train of thought.

 

[Dessolos]

if your instinct tells you the person who saved you and your friend can't be reasoned with, so you need to resort to destroying their life. That makes you an evil person. Her gut reaction was to destroy an innocent bystander that got him self in danger to help you.

Everything since then is just manipulative because she needs MC.

She could have asked him to keep it quiet, he was clearly ready to help them.
She could have bribed him to stay quiet, with information about his dad's case.

from all the options she had, she jumped to Blackmail via made-up sexual assault charges.

She is a psychopath even to entertain that train of thought.

if she went through with it or never showed any kind of remorse and tried to apologize for it I would agree. But to me it came across as an empty threat considering how quickly she tried to apologize for it. As I think if she was serious about it she would of not tried to make up for it and feel bad about it so quickly. So to me I don't see her a bad or evil person because of it. To me she just comes across as someone that is scared and acted without thinking.

I do agree she should have tried a different option first. But I just can't agree with your take on her character either because simply different personalities see things differently. At most I can only 1/2 agree cause with the context of what happens after shows me a different character in my eyes that what you see. Cause yeah it was fucked up to do but since I don't think she was serious about just can't see your pov at all about her being an evil person.

 

[Meiri]

I feel like some people take Ayase's character way too seriously, I understand not liking her but at the same time it is anime-like game with overpowered characters that doesn't really follow real life norms.

She was not in a position to destroy our life with that poor blackmail attempt and even if she was, we already moved past that plot.

 

[Juerhullycin]

I feel like some people take Ayase's character way too seriously, I understand not liking her but at the same time it is anime-like game with overpowered characters that doesn't really follow real life norms.

She was not in a position to destroy our life with that poor blackmail attempt and even if she was, we already moved past that plot.

The game lives and dies with its LIs, and we get a total psycho and a whore.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

if she went through with it or never showed any kind of remorse and tried to apologize for it I would agree. But to me it came across as an empty threat considering how quickly she tried to apologize for it. As I think if she was serious about it she would of not tried to make up for it and feel bad about it so quickly. So to me I don't see her a bad or evil person because of it. To me she just comes across as someone that is scared and acted without thinking.

She may not be a bad person, and neither is Chika, but my MC is not going to have a romantic relationship with either of them. And for different reasons.

The truth is, the MC couldn't have known whether she was serious or not when she did it (and it's safest to assume she was). In fact, just because she regrets it later doesn't mean she wasn't willing to do it at the time. Still, if I'd been given the option, I would have refused to accept the terms of the blackmail and told her she could go ahead with it if that's what she really wanted to do. The MC saved her and her friend, and if her way of thanking him is by blackmailing, my first instinct is to have nothing to do with her. And if she goes ahead with it, she'd never be able to say she's with the "good guys" again. I don't know how much that would affect the MC, but in the long run it would hurt her more than it would hurt the MC, so go ahead.

And the truth is, I don't know what she would have done if the MC had gotten up in a huff and stormed out, telling her that if this is how she thanks him for helping her friend, next time her fucking mother would help her, but not him. And that she could shove the photo up her ass.

I certainly would have loved the option to do so.

I feel like some people take Ayase's character way too seriously, I understand not liking her but at the same time it is anime-like game with overpowered characters that doesn't really follow real life norms.

She was not in a position to destroy our life with that poor blackmail attempt and even if she was, we already moved past that plot.

For me, the simple act of blackmailing the MC is enough to deny any kind of romantic relationship between her and the MC in the future. To me, she's not really a LI anymore, and I don't care if she regrets it, apologizes a thousand times, or makes cat poses; it won't change my opinion. I could forgive her, and even go so far as to accept that the MC and her were friends, but no further.

 

[Bismuth1104]

The game lives and dies with its LIs, and we get a total psycho and a whore.

She's not a psycho tho. She's someone who cares so much about her secret identity that, when someone she doesn't really know found out about it, she panicked and went for the nuclear option. It's just another scene to show how impulsive she is, not proof she's a psycho.

 

[Dessolos]

She may not be a bad person, and neither is Chika, but my MC is not going to have a romantic relationship with either of them. And for different reasons.

The truth is, the MC couldn't have known whether she was serious or not when she did it (and it's safest to assume she was). In fact, just because she regrets it later doesn't mean she wasn't willing to do it at the time. Still, if I'd been given the option, I would have refused to accept the terms of the blackmail and told her she could go ahead with it if that's what she really wanted to do. The MC saved her and her friend, and if her way of thanking him is by blackmailing, my first instinct is to have nothing to do with her. And if she goes ahead with it, she'd never be able to say she's with the "good guys" again. I don't know how much that would affect the MC, but in the long run it would hurt her more than it would hurt the MC, so go ahead.

And the truth is, I don't know what she would have done if the MC had gotten up in a huff and stormed out, telling her that if this is how she thanks him for helping her friend, next time her fucking mother would help her, but not him. And that she could shove the photo up her ass.

I certainly would have loved the option to do so.

I get that , I just have a different pov just cause of how quickly she tried to make things right. So in my mind that makes it feel like an empty threat cause I don't think if it was a serious one she be trying to make things right at all or at least that soon. But then again im not playing from the MC's pov at all. So it's hard to be upset over something like blackmail when I play like a viewer and don't care about MC's most of the time unless it's something that ruins their character.

I saw the blackmail more as character building to show that really isn't her that she was just scared and there is much more that meets the eyes once you get to know her better. It's one of the few times I don't mind blackmail in a game as I thought it added some decent character building if you can look past the blackmail that is and I know not everyone can.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

I get that , I just have a different pov just cause of how quickly she tried to make things right. So in my mind that makes it feel like an empty threat cause I don't think if it was a serious one she be trying to make things right at all or at least that soon. But then again im not playing from the MC's pov at all. So it's hard to be upset over something like blackmail when I play like a viewer and don't care about MC's most of the time unless it's something that ruins their character.

I saw the blackmail more as character building to show that really isn't her that she was just scared and there is much more that meets the eyes once you get to know her better. It's one of the few times I don't mind blackmail in a game as I thought it added some decent character building if you can look past the blackmail that is and I know not everyone can.

When I play, I identify with the MC. That makes anything that happens to the MC that much more personal.

 

[rafa30]

More Yaezaki Ayase

 

[hitman2511]

The game lives and dies with its LIs, and we get a total psycho and a whore.

 

[Alex5280]

Guys just stop feeding the trolls. Those two attention whores are in this thread every couple of months whining and crying about the same things over and over and over and over. Complaining about something you don't like in a game once is fine, but those two just won't shut up about it and move on.

 

[ChipLecsap]

Ayase lives rent free in their head so much ,

 

[Dessolos]

Ayase lives rent free in their head so much ,

don't forget about Chika too haha. i'm just glad it's about Ayase this time the conversation while I still disagree aren't as toxic as it is with Chika

 

[YogSothoth1982]

don't forget about Chika too haha. i'm just glad it's about Ayase this time the conversation while I still disagree aren't as toxic as it is with Chika

Well, I've ignored her, so it's not so bad. And since some people are offended by the same thing being commented on repeatedly, that's all I'm going to say about her.