VN Ren'Py New Horizon [v0.3] [KawaiiSukebe]

[QwertySmurfy]

Cant wait for the dev to cash in on the naysayer on the fact that a prostitute is not NTR then implement NTR in the end to cash in on that,
there is no world where someone says "I sell my body for sex" then a scene gets shown with her outside a hotel with another man not going to be interpreted as NTR.
Just make it clear whether or not this will have NTR (prostitutes) and yes prostitution is NTR forced or not.

If she is lying then how can the MC trust her at all anyway? thats to big of lie to tell in the first place
Literal double edged sword.

-So in the end its choose the liar or the whore-

its gaslighting 101


(for those who don't want to label it NTR then label it cuckolding {as you are just accepting to follow that path anyway})

This is exactly the fear I have with this. It feels like this will go in that direction. Vanilla Harem games don't usually mix with tags like Prostitution. And the dev is new to the scene isn't he? People will keep speculating for as long as the dev takes to get to the "actual" reveal, and I don't think he will reveal much information in the next update which means he could be milking this for a while. Also, with the way he's already toeing the line, how long until the dev decides Chika should be raped too, considering how tragic he's trying to make her. Dev almost made it happen previously with another.

 

[Meiri]

This is exactly the fear I have with this. It feels like this will go in that direction. Vanilla Harem games don't usually mix with tags like Prostitution. And the dev is new to the scene isn't he? People will keep speculating for as long as the dev takes to get to the "actual" reveal, and I don't think he will reveal much information in the next update which means he could be milking this for a while. Also, with the way he's already toeing the line, how long until the dev decides Chika should be raped too, considering how tragic he's trying to make her. Dev almost made it happen previously with another.

Until we get the update where he finally addresses Chika, everything else is just speculation. Contrary to some opinions here, I am not fully convinced that everything she said about being a prostitute is true and also, when he made a post on Patreon, he seemed to imply there was more going on.

That being said, whether she is or isn't, I think it will be hard to make everyone happy when we find out.

 

[QwertySmurfy]

Until we get the update where he finally addresses Chika, everything else is just speculation. Contrary to some opinions here, I am not fully convinced that everything she said about being a prostitute is true and also, when he made a post on Patreon, he seemed to imply there was more going on.

That being said, whether she is or isn't, I think it will be hard to make everyone happy when we find out.

Yeah I know, as I said a lot of people will keep speculating until then. The controversy will keep festering, as with time, more new players will probably join the discussions about it.

 

[Juerhullycin]

Until we get the update where he finally addresses Chika, everything else is just speculation. Contrary to some opinions here, I am not fully convinced that everything she said about being a prostitute is true and also, when he made a post on Patreon, he seemed to imply there was more going on.

That being said, whether she is or isn't, I think it will be hard to make everyone happy when we find out.

There is always something more about it and it's always rape and SA. I have seen hundreds of games where it was blackmail SA, which escalated to rape. It's not even funny how common this trope is. Devs have an obsession with tying any plot point to sex just because they make an Adult VN, as if all that divides adult themes from kids' entertainment is sex.

And if you are right and she lied? Then she is a liar, which is just a smidge less undesirable in a mate. Her character is fucked either way. Who in their right mind introduces themself as a whore as a joke?

Heres what KS said -
I was so dead set on finishing rendering a very big section of the story, but it was simply too much work that it really took me a whole month just to finish that part. If you know me, I get very fixate on finish a particular thing, and that's kind of a problem sometimes.

The good news is, I got that part finished. The bad news is, there are still a few more parts that I have yet to finish. So I won't be able to finish 0.4 in October like I estimated before. There's just simply too much content for this update, and I want to make it well.

Also, I have a 10-day vacation coming up in a few days, so I won't be able to work on the game for 10 days. My original plan was to get the update finished before I go on the vacation but I couldn't get it done on time, unfortunately.

However, please rest assured that I will get it all finished as soon as I come back, I just need a little more time

 

[MaxRichard]

There's no fucking NTR here and this discussion makes the entire game worse. It can't be cuckolding if we're not in a relationship. She could stop being a prostitute and you could be her white knight. Or just avoid that side quest. But for some reason we keep going around in circles, page after page, talking about this shit.

 

[Vitriks]

Beach episode ends with nothing, everyone having a long philosophical dialogues. Story develops with connections between characters. And then devs suddenly decide to throw you a bone with Queen episode. *Facepalm* It so poorly injected into the story, that it feels completely out of place.

Like "You came here for porn? We got you covered. Watch this clip and move forward." This probably the biggest fuck up after the first fighting scene.

Ok. I think the dev have a problem with injecting lewd scenes into the story.

 

[ZiolKen]

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Script: 100%
Renders: 85%
Code: 80%
Music & SFX: 100%
Animation: 80%

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Hello! KS is here to give you some report.

The last 25% feels like hardest and most time consuming.

I was so dead set on finishing rendering a very big section of the story, but it was simply too much work that it really took me a whole month just to finish that part. If you know me, I get very fixate on finish a particular thing, and that's kind of a problem sometimes.

The good news is, I got that part finished. The bad news is, there are still a few more parts that I have yet to finish. So I won't be able to finish 0.4 in October like I estimated before. There's just simply too much content for this update, and I want to make it well.

Also, I have a 10-day vacation coming up, so I won't be able to work on the game for 10 days. My original plan was to get the update finished before I go on the vacation but I couldn't get it done on time, unfortunately.

However, please rest assured that I will get it all finished as soon as I come back, I just need a little more time.

I hope you all are having a great week!

Sincerely, KS

 

[Zeruelll]

To the dev that says we don't understand the tags, most people who avoid these tags know full well what they mean otherwise they wound not hate on them so much. its telling that you are trying to frame it this way to avoid the backlash for as long as possible.
Above all this not every girl in a story needs to be a virgin (pls refer to the MILF tag as a examples) most of us just dont want Li's to whore themself out.

Yes there are 1000s of other AVN's, if you want some actual feedback maybe dont bash people who come into your story and expect not to see a Li's whoring themselfs out (whether this is happening or not doesnt matter as you have her literally tell you she is) especially when it has a harem tag attached to it, When I play a harem game I want to romance every Li (thats how I play harem games)

The rest of the game is 7/10 but dont expect feedback from it when I have just had shit put on my plate and you tell me it was mashed potato with gravy but will only find out in 12 mouths if it was or not.

Edit:
I dont like my harem game to have NTR in it subtle or otherwise, (if you dont intend for NTR in the game then the way you going about it says otherwise...

Dev's reply in that attachment though
Ehh whatever, I'm still willing to check future updates and see how it all happens specially Chika's route. With the next update being advertised as a big one and all which could also be the one that solves the mysteries around Chika. If not, then if using this pace, I'll know in 2-3 years then.

 

[QwertySmurfy]

Dev's reply in that attachment though
Ehh whatever, I'm still willing to check future updates and see how it all happens specially Chika's route. With the next update being advertised as a big one and all which could also be the one that solves the mysteries around Chika. If not, then if using this pace, I'll know in 2-3 years then.

Vanilla devs try not to go into non-vanilla territories challenge (Impossible).

And then tell vanilla fans they don't know what vanilla is, in order to gaslight them into liking the direction their game is going.

Nah but seriously, I have to wonder if the Dev's Patreon supporters are NTR fans, because as soon as a Dev has those, they start to listen to them and their game ends up becoming filled with NTR (either incorporated into a story, or as side content)

 

[Zeruelll]

Nah but seriously, I have to wonder if the Dev's Patreon supporters are NTR fans, because as soon as a Dev has those, they start to listen to them and their game ends up becoming filled with NTR (either incorporated into a story, or as side content)

Oddly enough, it's true. A good numeber of devs I knew just goes to where it starts becoming the bigger group of supporters like a true mercenary. Or, they were actually a fan of it or just outright don't mind it. It just needs as little as that to start adding it cuz that's another group/potential supporters to cater to. Could be added as optional content and there's the contract sealed.
There's gonna be quite a number who will remain that wouldn't mind as long as it's optional.

There's already a root where it could start, just needs to go that way if finally decided it will go that way.

 

[Jossta]

Is Hoshino Hina from another game?

She was supposed to be yes but I dropped my project so she's just a side character for NH now xD

 

[Jossta]

This was good. Hopefully there will be some action with Hina she is fine!!!

It's something I'll have to see with KS.
We did had something in mind but with all the drama with NTR stuff I don't know

 

[Serpent Wolf Dragon]

It's something I'll have to see with KS.
We did had something in mind but with all the drama with NTR stuff I don't know

Am I reading this right - there was NTR planned?

 

[Jossta]

Am I reading this right - there was NTR planned?

No what I mean is that with how people are reacting to Chika's story, what we had in mind for Hina might appear as NTR for those people too

 

[Juerhullycin]

No what I mean is that with how people are reacting to Chika's story, what we had in mind for Hina might appear as NTR for those people too

So, in other words, technically, not NTR was/is planned.

 

[QwertySmurfy]

No what I mean is that with how people are reacting to Chika's story, what we had in mind for Hina might appear as NTR for those people too

If you yourself think it may be seen as NTR, then it's definitely not vanilla anymore.

So, in other words, technically, not NTR was/is planned.
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The roundabout way of including NTR.

 

[Juerhullycin]

If you yourself think it may be seen as NTR, then it's definitely not vanilla anymore.


The roundabout way of including NTR.

Imagine my shock

 

[Dessolos]

Well this thread about to get toxic again time to bring out the popcorn and watch

 

[QwertySmurfy]

Imagine my shock
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Yeah, there's definitely no shock, the dev keeps gaslighting us into thinking there will be no NTR, but the direction seems to prove otherwise. Even the "prostitute" aspect will probably be real and not an implication to something else that dev was mentioning in his statement, another gaslight to take the heat off probably.


And what I said earlier may end up being true.

Vanilla devs try not to go into non-vanilla territories challenge (Impossible).

And then tell vanilla fans they don't know what vanilla is, in order to gaslight them into liking the direction their game is going.

Nah but seriously, I have to wonder if the Dev's Patreon supporters are NTR fans, because as soon as a Dev has those, they start to listen to them and their game ends up becoming filled with NTR (either incorporated into a story, or as side content)

 

[Jossta]

Well for most of you a potential LI doing prostitution count as NTR so I guess seeing a potential LI and another girl fooling around count as NTR for you too