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You could try out the Fixer. It's in the early stages but looks quite promising. The problem I have with most of the female lifesims is that most of them are quite 'rapey' (for the lack of a better word).
I have made earlier posts here and here in this sub where I talked about some of my thoughts on what I like and don't like about NewLife. I will also say I agree with NextTimeMaybe's words about context/situations. People often say "It's a porno. The writing doesn't matter." and while that's true for the most part, that statement doesn't really apply when talking specifically about the context the sex is taking place in.
Hell, roommates, cheating, NTR, interracial, vanilla romance, incest, exhibitionism, etc. are all dependent on situational or societal context as most fetishes are. The context/situations leading up to the sex in porn is like the foreplay action in actual sex. And just like actual sex, the foreplay is the most important part.
First I'll preface by saying "it's not easy" and best of luck if you try - I've actually looked into the code myself—albeit without the source code—and Newlife is spaghetti to the max using a style of coding with [in my opinion] way too many objects. Another guy was trying to recreate an open version of the game here, and he found it hard, too. Maybe take a look at what he said, or contact him.
I think the problem is making a single sex scene different by what characters are in it, as opposed to having just having loads of different options which potentially change very little. A solid scene system would help with this too, as different context can do a lot for making something different. Have all the scenes in a system like the 'additional scenes' feature of Newlife, don't bake them into the game, the community can do a lot to help provide variety that way.
Newlife has some great ideas, and a great deal of success is there for the taking.
And in the name of all that is holy don't make another autistic lifesim where you have to play through every single minute of the day just to abruptly explode in the evening because you forgot to take a shit in the morning. The single best part of Newlife is that it condenses the mundane parts of life down, and sticks to just the interesting stuff.
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I think at one point, there was a thought of putting in all that "autistic life-sim" details in New Life but SO got too lazy to integrate it all. There's one "Morning After" scene where you put on makeup/take birth control and it (as far as I can tell) has no impact on any gameplay.
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By all means, this. The scene squiddysquidsquid refers to just shows us what a PITA nightmare this game would be, where we to control every aspect of MC's life. Instead, everything is kinda "assumed". The player would likely need to poop during the day? Well, of course she will, at some point. She would carry all her stuff in a purse? Yes, but do we really need to be bothered about what's in it? Is she wearing jewelry? Perhaps, if your mind's eye feels like it's appriopriate. Shoes? Naturally, let's assume she picked a pair that fits the outfit best.
See? No PITA, just plain adventure. For a brief bullet point to sum up what I just said, see my footnote, which is actually a direct quote from someone in this very thread, couple dozen pages back.
Honestly, I find it kind of funny that there's a specific story point in AW where one goes outside without a bra and it's treated as if it's some sort of big kinky revelation for our previously male main character, when the vast majority actual women would treat this as not a big deal.
AW? Accidental Woman? I've barely played that game, struggle to even get past the shop as it takes so long to do anything.
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Some people like that level of control in their games but damn, its a little too much lol
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I feel that. All i want, is just, a game like TiTS, and CoC, like, I think those two did things pretty much perfectly, i just wish there was more customization in em, but, eh, still good.
Less is more, however, make sure that less is quality.
That seems to be what most adult games get wrong.
To put it simply, [I think] most of us play these games to avoid our real lives, and live in a fantasy world where we don't gotta go to the bathroom, or end up walking around doing nothing waiting for the existential dread to kick in.
In the end, just, try to make something short, and sweet, but make sure it's got love, and soul in it.
That's the best advice I can give you notecrash just, do what you wanna do, but don't push
yourself too much. Less is more, just don't try to be overly ambitious.
Trust me, as someone who's tried making games, you'll only end up disappointing yourself,
and burning yourself out, so, don't push yourself too much.
First of all, thanks you all so much, you gave me some more things to chew on 
My main concern for now is just find a way to make this scalable. My hope is to find a good balance between streamlining the game enough to be scalable, but still provide a good amount of content and customisation. I didn't look into Newlife's code but I have a vague idea the issues the dev is facing, I know first hand how it is to try to build something only to find out I doomed it because I didn't build a proper base (to the dev: just in case you're reading this, good luck partner)
And don't worry, I'm on the same page as you on the issue of too much detail and control. I also played some of those games and I thought they could be interesting, but the micro management was just too much (is it really that engaging/immersing/fun manually clicking to get up, go to the hall, go to the restroom, go to the mirror, and then tell your character to brush his/her teeth before going out?).
But first I have to tackle the first issue of scalability. First I want to try build a personal demo to prove I can do it and make sure it can be scalable. For now I'm aiming to make a straight male as a playable character, but if this goes well and if I think I can do it, I'll leave it up to the player to choose between a male or female and their sexual orientation. (but again, that's a big if, not promising anything with this)
If I fail, I'll fall back to another idea that I have that should help me getting a better understanding on how to handle these mechanics and game design. Or hell, maybe I should start with this simpler project first... (this idea being, a text game more or less inspired by Akira points and one room runaway girl. By having just one romantic interest, maybe I could focus on the customisation aspect like personality, body, clothes, etc on a smaller scale and see what kind of problems I face, before I build a bigger sandbox game like I originally intended)
Also, I'm doing this as a hobby on my free time, so don't expect to hear anything about this in the near future. But again, thank you all! (and sorry for the wall of text and if I'm being kinda unfocused with my paragraphs, as you can see I'm still shooting around my thoughts)
My main concern for now is just find a way to make this scalable. My hope is to find a good balance between streamlining the game enough to be scalable, but still provide a good amount of content and customisation. I didn't look into Newlife's code but I have a vague idea the issues the dev is facing, I know first hand how it is to try to build something only to find out I doomed it because I didn't build a proper base (to the dev: just in case you're reading this, good luck partner)
And don't worry, I'm on the same page as you on the issue of too much detail and control. I also played some of those games and I thought they could be interesting, but the micro management was just too much (is it really that engaging/immersing/fun manually clicking to get up, go to the hall, go to the restroom, go to the mirror, and then tell your character to brush his/her teeth before going out?).
But first I have to tackle the first issue of scalability. First I want to try build a personal demo to prove I can do it and make sure it can be scalable. For now I'm aiming to make a straight male as a playable character, but if this goes well and if I think I can do it, I'll leave it up to the player to choose between a male or female and their sexual orientation. (but again, that's a big if, not promising anything with this)
If I fail, I'll fall back to another idea that I have that should help me getting a better understanding on how to handle these mechanics and game design. Or hell, maybe I should start with this simpler project first... (this idea being, a text game more or less inspired by Akira points and one room runaway girl. By having just one romantic interest, maybe I could focus on the customisation aspect like personality, body, clothes, etc on a smaller scale and see what kind of problems I face, before I build a bigger sandbox game like I originally intended)
Also, I'm doing this as a hobby on my free time, so don't expect to hear anything about this in the near future. But again, thank you all! (and sorry for the wall of text and if I'm being kinda unfocused with my paragraphs, as you can see I'm still shooting around my thoughts)
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Personally I think Lilith's Throne is probably the best when it comes to customization and how dynamic the sex scenes are based on your/your partner(s) traits. You can customize how "furry" the characters are or just turn them off (outside of non-combat/quest related characters), if you aren't into that.
Maybe I'm wrong, but Lilith's Throne's development is very slow, too. Also, unless I missed the relevant options, you can't fully customize what you will encounter; lot of gay crossdressers who like being passive and having their anus stretched in that game. Like, wth? Not realistic at all. I'm not against homos or having that in my game, but finding totally random combination of traits on NPCs like that should be customizable, or at least not so absurdly frequent. Most men are straight and don't crossdress on 2021's non-fantasy Earth.
But again, development of that game is slow, and there's not much to do in it. Newlife has NPC customization, unlike Lilith's Throne(unless I missed that as well). Oh, and the customization of NPCs in NL is sooo easy to do on Notepad. If only making scenes were as easy.
But again, development of that game is slow, and there's not much to do in it. Newlife has NPC customization, unlike Lilith's Throne(unless I missed that as well). Oh, and the customization of NPCs in NL is sooo easy to do on Notepad. If only making scenes were as easy.
I made quite a bit of progress, but there is still a lot to do. Most systems are implemented, but recreating scenes is pretty tedious and takes a lot of time. Plus I don't really understand how liking/love works behind the scenes, so I'll probably have to make my own version.
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Looks like a strong start. Having the systems polished before implementing scenes makes a lot of sense - I think the sheer inefficiency of adding functionality to newlife's unwieldy code is one reason why SO's work gets a lot of criticism despite probably putting a lot of time into each update. Have you considered open sourcing your work?
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How long ago did you last play it? There are tons of customizable options for types of people you encounter including adjusting what kinks and orientation of the enemy spawns. Try giving it another shot and let me know what you think.
Just downloaded ver 0.3.15 of Lilith's Throne to check real quick. While you're right that there's an option to adjust orientation of enemies, even if you raise gynephilic encounters, you still don't have control over certain traits they spawn with. NPCs that should be straight will still have homo traits, such as crossdressing and that submissive anal stretching thing. Noooot the kinda thing I want in my game. There's inconsistency between what would be their orientation and their traits. They're still kinda gay. lol So not my thing.
Despite that, Lilith's Throne's customization gives a lot of freedom to what the player will encounter -- it's true. I wish we could ban specific traits from appearing in-game. It's a decent game with a promising future... there's really just not much to do yet. Very alpha stage kind of game.
Despite that, Lilith's Throne's customization gives a lot of freedom to what the player will encounter -- it's true. I wish we could ban specific traits from appearing in-game. It's a decent game with a promising future... there's really just not much to do yet. Very alpha stage kind of game.
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I see what you mean. There is actually a feature where you can craft potions that can affect their certain kinks/fetishes as well but it does require you to have a certain skill unlocked and costs resources to craft (unless you cheat) that you can force defeated enemies to drink if you want a specific scene to play out.
It's pretty much impossible to implement scenes until most systems are ready anyway. I'm also trying to account for potential expandability without overcomplicating things.
I will if I ever get it to a playable state.
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Hi there! ♫
I'm not really new, have just been lurking for quite a while and I've been following this thread and some other text games on this site.
Figured I drop in and mention that I am just like PD_ developing a game which is inspired by NewLife and Lilith's Throne. I still have one exam ahead of me next week, after which I'll be focusing on making a demo to release soonish with a proper game thread.
I'm not really new, have just been lurking for quite a while and I've been following this thread and some other text games on this site.
Figured I drop in and mention that I am just like PD_ developing a game which is inspired by NewLife and Lilith's Throne. I still have one exam ahead of me next week, after which I'll be focusing on making a demo to release soonish with a proper game thread.
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