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SonsOfLiberty

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Hey everyone,

I've been putting off writing this post for a while, but after seeing all your messages, I felt like it was time to share what's been going on. As you know, I've always tried to be upfront with you, but given what I do for a living, I've kept my personal life separate from this space. However, to explain where I'm at now, I'm going to have to open up a bit more than usual.

When I started this page back in 2018, I was a single guy who never imagined having a serious relationship or a family. But a lot has changed since then—I started a family and now have two kids, who are honestly the light of my life. But they're also the reason I've stepped away.

For a while now, I've been struggling with a kind of depression. I couldn't look my children in the eye knowing what my games promote. I felt ashamed, even disgusted with myself. What I thought was my “dream job” had turned into something I hated. That's why I decided to quit.

In the past few months, I've been trying to pivot to making SFW games. But since I've been doing this for so long, my mind kept going back to ideas that were... well, sexual. That's what I've always been good at. I thought I could finish No More Money, start something new, and maybe ask you guys how you'd feel about removing a certain taboo element that shows up in all my games. But honestly, I can't do it anymore.

I can't continue with No More Money. It's been breaking me to keep working on it, and I just can't do it anymore. I know you guys enjoy these games, and there's nothing wrong with that, but for me, it's personal. I'm not really a writer. I draw inspiration from real people in my life. Most of the characters you love from No More Secrets and No More Money were inspired by ex-girlfriends, friends, people I know, so it's hard for me to separate those feelings when I'm writing. I didn't value family before, so making taboo games was easy before, but I can't do that anymore.

So, I need to know where you all stand. I know walking away from another game is going to hurt my reputation, and I'm ready to face the consequences of that. But if I were to start No More Homework without the “household” taboo, would you still be interested in the game? I really need to know what kind of adult visual novels you're into now and how you feel about this shift.

I've included a few possible answers. Based on your responses, I'll decide what I'll do in the future.

Thanks for understanding and I apologize for everything.
 

tmu500

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Hey everyone,

I've been putting off writing this post for a while, but after seeing all your messages, I felt like it was time to share what's been going on. As you know, I've always tried to be upfront with you, but given what I do for a living, I've kept my personal life separate from this space. However, to explain where I'm at now, I'm going to have to open up a bit more than usual.

When I started this page back in 2018, I was a single guy who never imagined having a serious relationship or a family. But a lot has changed since then—I started a family and now have two kids, who are honestly the light of my life. But they're also the reason I've stepped away.

For a while now, I've been struggling with a kind of depression. I couldn't look my children in the eye knowing what my games promote. I felt ashamed, even disgusted with myself. What I thought was my “dream job” had turned into something I hated. That's why I decided to quit.

In the past few months, I've been trying to pivot to making SFW games. But since I've been doing this for so long, my mind kept going back to ideas that were... well, sexual. That's what I've always been good at. I thought I could finish No More Money, start something new, and maybe ask you guys how you'd feel about removing a certain taboo element that shows up in all my games. But honestly, I can't do it anymore.

I can't continue with No More Money. It's been breaking me to keep working on it, and I just can't do it anymore. I know you guys enjoy these games, and there's nothing wrong with that, but for me, it's personal. I'm not really a writer. I draw inspiration from real people in my life. Most of the characters you love from No More Secrets and No More Money were inspired by ex-girlfriends, friends, people I know, so it's hard for me to separate those feelings when I'm writing. I didn't value family before, so making taboo games was easy before, but I can't do that anymore.

So, I need to know where you all stand. I know walking away from another game is going to hurt my reputation, and I'm ready to face the consequences of that. But if I were to start No More Homework without the “household” taboo, would you still be interested in the game? I really need to know what kind of adult visual novels you're into now and how you feel about this shift.

I've included a few possible answers. Based on your responses, I'll decide what I'll do in the future.

Thanks for understanding and I apologize for everything.
Thank for the post and it is fully understandable. Best of luck.

In addition, if the dev wanted to start new project there are lot of options: 1. single MC (no parent or sibling) [Marvel Punisher but less angry], 2. living with single father, 3. adaption. There are a lot of examples out there. I do like the characters design, story telling, and characters development. I ignore all the taboo sections.
 
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Maccabbee

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Mar 26, 2024
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Hey everyone,

I've been putting off writing this post for a while, but after seeing all your messages, I felt like it was time to share what's been going on. As you know, I've always tried to be upfront with you, but given what I do for a living, I've kept my personal life separate from this space. However, to explain where I'm at now, I'm going to have to open up a bit more than usual.

When I started this page back in 2018, I was a single guy who never imagined having a serious relationship or a family. But a lot has changed since then—I started a family and now have two kids, who are honestly the light of my life. But they're also the reason I've stepped away.

For a while now, I've been struggling with a kind of depression. I couldn't look my children in the eye knowing what my games promote. I felt ashamed, even disgusted with myself. What I thought was my “dream job” had turned into something I hated. That's why I decided to quit.

In the past few months, I've been trying to pivot to making SFW games. But since I've been doing this for so long, my mind kept going back to ideas that were... well, sexual. That's what I've always been good at. I thought I could finish No More Money, start something new, and maybe ask you guys how you'd feel about removing a certain taboo element that shows up in all my games. But honestly, I can't do it anymore.

I can't continue with No More Money. It's been breaking me to keep working on it, and I just can't do it anymore. I know you guys enjoy these games, and there's nothing wrong with that, but for me, it's personal. I'm not really a writer. I draw inspiration from real people in my life. Most of the characters you love from No More Secrets and No More Money were inspired by ex-girlfriends, friends, people I know, so it's hard for me to separate those feelings when I'm writing. I didn't value family before, so making taboo games was easy before, but I can't do that anymore.

So, I need to know where you all stand. I know walking away from another game is going to hurt my reputation, and I'm ready to face the consequences of that. But if I were to start No More Homework without the “household” taboo, would you still be interested in the game? I really need to know what kind of adult visual novels you're into now and how you feel about this shift.

I've included a few possible answers. Based on your responses, I'll decide what I'll do in the future.

Thanks for understanding and I apologize for everything.
Absolutely understandable, and best of luck to you. If you make a different sort of NSFW or even SFW game, I'd check it out.
 

Zorro#34

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Apr 23, 2022
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Hey everyone,

I've been putting off writing this post for a while, but after seeing all your messages, I felt like it was time to share what's been going on. As you know, I've always tried to be upfront with you, but given what I do for a living, I've kept my personal life separate from this space. However, to explain where I'm at now, I'm going to have to open up a bit more than usual.

When I started this page back in 2018, I was a single guy who never imagined having a serious relationship or a family. But a lot has changed since then—I started a family and now have two kids, who are honestly the light of my life. But they're also the reason I've stepped away.

For a while now, I've been struggling with a kind of depression. I couldn't look my children in the eye knowing what my games promote. I felt ashamed, even disgusted with myself. What I thought was my “dream job” had turned into something I hated. That's why I decided to quit.

In the past few months, I've been trying to pivot to making SFW games. But since I've been doing this for so long, my mind kept going back to ideas that were... well, sexual. That's what I've always been good at. I thought I could finish No More Money, start something new, and maybe ask you guys how you'd feel about removing a certain taboo element that shows up in all my games. But honestly, I can't do it anymore.

I can't continue with No More Money. It's been breaking me to keep working on it, and I just can't do it anymore. I know you guys enjoy these games, and there's nothing wrong with that, but for me, it's personal. I'm not really a writer. I draw inspiration from real people in my life. Most of the characters you love from No More Secrets and No More Money were inspired by ex-girlfriends, friends, people I know, so it's hard for me to separate those feelings when I'm writing. I didn't value family before, so making taboo games was easy before, but I can't do that anymore.

So, I need to know where you all stand. I know walking away from another game is going to hurt my reputation, and I'm ready to face the consequences of that. But if I were to start No More Homework without the “household” taboo, would you still be interested in the game? I really need to know what kind of adult visual novels you're into now and how you feel about this shift.

I've included a few possible answers. Based on your responses, I'll decide what I'll do in the future.

Thanks for understanding and I apologize for everything.
Totally understandable; I think I'd feel the same if I were him. It looks like it's best not to ask him to continue.
That said, maybe he could sell the rights and all the materials on NMM to some promising starting dev? So this awesome game doesn't die and nets him some profit one last time?
 

WICKEDp4th

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You'll have do to, what the heart tells you. In german there is a saying like "Wenn Leidenschaft leiden schafft", what can be loosely translated with "when passion creates suffering".
I understand your heart of change and want to thank you for the journeys/stories you created until now.
If you think, you can/want to continue with adult novels, that does not contain a certain ;) fetish, i would not be against it at all. GO FOR IT! >>>

Good Luck and congratulations for your not so little family you build. (y)(y)(y)(y)
 

MrD812

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Oct 24, 2021
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Hey everyone,

I've been putting off writing this post for a while, but after seeing all your messages, I felt like it was time to share what's been going on. As you know, I've always tried to be upfront with you, but given what I do for a living, I've kept my personal life separate from this space. However, to explain where I'm at now, I'm going to have to open up a bit more than usual.

When I started this page back in 2018, I was a single guy who never imagined having a serious relationship or a family. But a lot has changed since then—I started a family and now have two kids, who are honestly the light of my life. But they're also the reason I've stepped away.

For a while now, I've been struggling with a kind of depression. I couldn't look my children in the eye knowing what my games promote. I felt ashamed, even disgusted with myself. What I thought was my “dream job” had turned into something I hated. That's why I decided to quit.

In the past few months, I've been trying to pivot to making SFW games. But since I've been doing this for so long, my mind kept going back to ideas that were... well, sexual. That's what I've always been good at. I thought I could finish No More Money, start something new, and maybe ask you guys how you'd feel about removing a certain taboo element that shows up in all my games. But honestly, I can't do it anymore.

I can't continue with No More Money. It's been breaking me to keep working on it, and I just can't do it anymore. I know you guys enjoy these games, and there's nothing wrong with that, but for me, it's personal. I'm not really a writer. I draw inspiration from real people in my life. Most of the characters you love from No More Secrets and No More Money were inspired by ex-girlfriends, friends, people I know, so it's hard for me to separate those feelings when I'm writing. I didn't value family before, so making taboo games was easy before, but I can't do that anymore.

So, I need to know where you all stand. I know walking away from another game is going to hurt my reputation, and I'm ready to face the consequences of that. But if I were to start No More Homework without the “household” taboo, would you still be interested in the game? I really need to know what kind of adult visual novels you're into now and how you feel about this shift.

I've included a few possible answers. Based on your responses, I'll decide what I'll do in the future.

Thanks for understanding and I apologize for everything.
Would be helpful for him knowing vet's, successful in overcoming past trauma's effecting work and family.
Personal well being comes first and foremost with one self, more then ever family/loved ones whom may be effected.
Keeping priorities focus less daunting as well as far less problematic.

Good to own up to things, very bad to kill one self over it in unrelenting guilt/judgment/miscomprehension in self worth.
 

homejorz

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Thank for the post and it is fully understandable. Best of luck.

In addition, if the dev wanted to start new project there are lot of options: 1. single MC (no parent or sibling) [Marvel Punisher but less angry], 2. living with single father, 3. adaption. There are a lot of examples out there. I do like the characters design, story telling, and characters development. I ignore all the taboo sections.
Yeah, I don't know about others. But the incest factor has never mattered that much to me in lewd games in general. For this one in particular I just liked the characters and their designs. In fact when I first got into these games, I didn't realize how prominent incest stories were lol I'm a milf guy, so Milfs and taboo situations can exist without it being incest.

All this being said, I can separate fantasy from reality also. I care about family IRL and none of these characters ever make me think about my IRL family. With not being able to keep fantasy and reality separate, I can understand it being really taxing to continue the work. best of luck to this Dev, who I do respct as being very forward and honest with his supporters
 

*Dreamer*

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He should have said it right away instead of being silent for 2 months.
It would be the right thing to do in relation to the people who gathered around him and not now when it didn't work out with SFW game.
I'm not judging him, but at least the people deserved an explanation. :rolleyes:
As for the game, I would really like him to finish it... but it's up to the Dev to decide. I can only wish him luck. (y)
 

RabidSloth

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I totally get where he's coming from. And even if he tried to "push through" and finish it, both he and the project would likely suffer for it.

I do agree though that it'd be nice if he could at least hand the project off to someone else to be finished.
 

Marcelo123456

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I totally get where he's coming from. And even if he tried to "push through" and finish it, both he and the project would likely suffer for it.

I do agree though that it'd be nice if he could at least hand the project off to someone else to be finished.
there are people volunteering to finish his work with his consulting, its up to him to accept or reject the offers.
 

Anaktorness

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A game of this quality deserves to be completed, since the dev seems unable to separate fiction from real life (no judgment, I know some people can't either). I think that out of respect for his supporters he should pass the project on to another developer so that the game can have a worthy ending.
 

ramvivat

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frankly I don't really understand what the author is so upset about.
If he doesn't have taboo relationships without the ipatch to begin with, then why should he continue to worry so much? Just because project have the ipatch? pffft =)))
but I'll support both options, by the way.

1 why "abortion" is ok - MC was a dandy, he likes to portray himself as someone he's not.
2 The "continue" option is also ok. Not bad either.
I can offer option
3 - a crumpled ending "and they lived and lived until they died. the end" in the sense of "somehow pick up the loose ends", clean up and retouch and send it to print. And no one will say that the author abandoned the project (though no one will say that he DIDN'T abandon it, but who cares, right?) =))
Yes, it will turn out like with the other project "human diary farm". But that will do too.

in the end it will be like in life: "a man is sitting by the road, a beautiful stranger passed by him, for a moment illuminating him with her beauty, giving him faith in himself for a moment, and left without a trace, leaving him... the end." what happened next? did he decide that he would try to meet her - no one knows about it. and it doesn't matter, everyone can write their own continuation of that beautiful story and will be right in their own way.
in the author's statistics it will be like another successfully completed project.
 

JojodoLolo

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I have zero interest in his games if there are no incest. Pretty sure most people play for Charlotte and Tris. honestly I can’t even remember the other characters’ names. They were just generic with bland stories.

Yeah, I like incest, and that has nothing to do with real life, like they’re completely different things. The worst reason I have ever seem.
 

TRICKSTΞR

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It's understandable from devs' perspective but after years of development and support one thing everybody deserves is a "proper ending". After that nobody is gonna complain whether his next games have incest or not or even if there is going to be a next nsfw game.

NMM is not your generic low quality game you find on the forum. It is considered a gem in terms of incest, writing and plot development. How the characters look, how good their designs are and now it's all gone because we know the reason.

Atleast finish the game. Everybody deserves that even those people that are saying wish you well Dev. Deep down everyone is hurt.

Such a waste of this beautiful game.
 
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