my problem with TLS is that there is objectively right choice in every situation. TLS almost never gives you situation where 2 different options that are respected. Simon says what's the best and you better do what he said. while nobles Gives you a lot of choices and trys to make best out of them.
RPGM Noblesse Oblige [v0.17.1.0] [Lord Forte Games]
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Bob Jared
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Yes that is why I worded it the way I did.
Mutually exclusive character routes and likely soon to be full mutually exclusive party members is waaaay worse than missable content IMO. (though I still adore both games)
In fact, I would say that including missable content is a risk vs reward decision on the part of a dev. Yes, players might be frustrated to miss things but might also get a much higher satisfaction by finding those things compared to unmissable content.
Honestly, I would say the opposite. Allow me to explain what I mean.
If you have a game with multiple routes that are hard exclusive than your expectations are set that you will not see them all. So not seeing it all is not a big disappointment. By contrast, if you are expected to be able to hit all the content in one playthrough than your expectations are that you indeed will.
Thus, missing any content in the former case is not really a big deal emotionally while doing so in the later can make you feel cheated and annoyed. This in turn has the potential to turn the game into an annoying scavenger hunt where you focus more on "getting them all" than on enjoying the game.
So we are already starting off on the wrong foot. And beyond that it all depends on how much effort actually went into the experience. If the game is actually enjoyable and each of those routes is fleshed out as opposed to being a self contained thing glued onto the side of the plot each of them can end up feeling like a whole different experience to play through. At which point you basically have multiple games for the price of one. Done right, and it really gives you a good reason to play through the game again and again to find and explore them all. And if not, well you can still enjoy the one route you knowingly picked to follow, finish it and call it a day.
So overall I would say that a game with hard exclusive routes done right is the better option. It's just harder to do right.
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The length of Noblesse compared to TLS will also probably be a factor. Truly Mutually Exclusive content in TLS would be torturous due to how fucking long it is.
Noblesse flows along much faster comparatively.
Noblesse flows along much faster comparatively.
Such an excellent summation of romance in the game. Where in TLS the harem just became so damn large I honestly couldn't keep track of whos who anymore and didn't form connections with a lot of the later additions. Here, the "harem" is far far smaller and Lord Forte went with the bold choice of having various romance options exclusive. One optional romance path locks out the other paths. I was honestly impressed that he did that. Knowing how hyper sensitive people are when it comes to their "waifus" and "harems". However, my favorite girl Cynthia is definitely not going to be a love interest. I like my warrior, brick waifus. From the dialogue and interactions it is quite clear that Cynthia and Alexander truly are friends. Its sweet and wholesome. As much as I don't like her not being romanceable, it makes sense to have one of the women in the party be truly a loyal friend and companion.
Looking forward to the next update. Was a patron before but cancelled. Ill wait for this one to go public.
Speaking of non romancible women. Am I the only one shipping the maybe sister and the best friend?
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You're not alone in that romantic ship, I do too. Their moments are so sweet. Also before Despoina was confirmed as one of optional romance option from branching paths, specifically by accepting both Lorena and Somnus into the party, I was shipping her with Stelianos, the general/commander of Alexander's Ducal Armies. I'm bummed that that ship is not going to sail, because I like Lorena and Somnus is an interesting character to have in party and because of his origins as a mid-to-high level demon.
Are you referring to Ariston and Despoina? That's quite the interesting pairing considering, we haven't seen Ariston and Desponia interact yet. Maybe it could happen on one of the routes. Desponia only becomes available on a specific route and even than, its entirely optional. You have to buy the present and do optional triggers. I really like the flexibility in this game. As opposed to an army of waifus being thrust upon you lol!
You will excuse me for my mind blanking out on names. It's very late over here and it's saturday night so I am not 100% for reasons that need no explaining but bare gestimation. But I mean the magically gifted half sister who can control minds and the MC's male best friend who is currently babysitting her.
OH, You mean Medea and Ariston. Yah, I don't think that's much of a ship so much as it seems like the narrative is heavily leaning towards those two developing romantic feelings for one another. Ariston is canonically handsome and a dashing Knight after all. Princess and knight falling in love is a common trope and there is nothing wrong with it if developed properly. Which Lorde Forte is doing. Yes, I look forward to seeing how their relationship develops in future releases.
can someone tell me where the falcon suplier and the elven bow vendor? I looked and interacted it every one i could find
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You can find both items in Arkos, just follow the story and when you get to the Arkos market you can buy them.
is not that, i am already in arkos but i cant progress in the history bcz i still ´cant` find both of then
edit: welp thx aniway going to start a new save file when they are arriving at arkos
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So the Falcon Supplier is going to be the man standing in front of the building on the furthest east point, by the cages of all the birds. He's not there when you first arrive, but the next day while you're exploring the city.
The elven bow vendor will be just to the east of the main north-south road, in one of those clusters of 4 stalls. She also won't be there when you first arrive, but shows up the next day while you're exploring the city.
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Pretty good game, i like how its more of a serious story compared to TLS being a parody/love letter of porn tropes and the combat is more complex but still enjoyable, these 2 games might be some of the most unique games in this site(another great one is Black Souls but that one is more of a straight dark adventure)
Also are there any references to TLS in game and is CGI coming at some time for the sex scenes?
Also are there any references to TLS in game and is CGI coming at some time for the sex scenes?
Not directly, as it were, but in the Castle Town below Kharos when you first arrive the town board has a posting asking for a certain item...
There's also someone who jokingly suggests the name "Doom King" for a pet in a later chapter. But I think any others will stay small like these.
By CGI do you mean CG art? Because I doubt we'll be seeing CGI ever, but I wouldn't be surprised if the developer wanted to do some CGs eventually. At the moment it's likely a budget constraint issue.
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Oh yeah i mean some CGs, thanks for the answers.
I hope you all the best and that the funding increases.
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lol im not developer im one of patreon member we just get to see some things before public .
