VN Ren'Py Abandoned Nothing Is Forever [v0.7.3] [MrSilverLust]

[Mwanted]

Just to know, the release schedule is one every 4months or we can expect something better? I'm supporting but I wanted more content before doing my playthrough (I'll do more than one for sure)

 

[gregers]

It was Emma's idea to bring Kim in to the "Monica situation", and there was a player choice to leave the task of contacting Kim up to Emma. Sure, he didn't actively discourage it, but perhaps he respects her ability to advise enough to overcome his distaste (if he is on a"not involved with Kim" path).

Outside of that, as previously discussed by MrSilverLust, I guess the reality of linear time constrains the number of variations that can be developed. As Kim is still a potential partner for some routes, she can't be entirely excluded from the core story.

Yeah, I understand the latter part: There's only so much you can do to allow variations when trying to tell a coherent story with an established cast of characters. As for the former, it doesn't really wash for me: The MC knows that Kim absolutely cannot be trusted and will seek to hurt people on a whim; he may not want to expose Kim to her boyfriend because of her threats to expose him in turn, but he could at the very least hint to Emma that she's not ideally suited for this.

But as I said, of course there's a limit to the branching one can reasonably allow. Occasionally that leads to slightly hinky story beats on some paths, but that's practically unavoidable for a one-person dev team trying to craft an ambitious story within a reasonable time frame.

 

[MrSilverLust]

Interesting sequence of comments:

Some people want more animations:

It may be too time consuming to repeat that style [animations of 1st chapter], but I hope to see it return in the future.

Other's more player options:

I'd politely suggest drilling down maybe some more on player choice,

But with Leah, I personally see a missed opportunity, I think a lot of people would like to see something like this on the femdom path.

Others less development time:

Just to know, the release schedule is one every 4months or we can expect something better?

I hope you can appreciate that you can only pick one from those three.

Anyway, the plan is to upgrade from my old laptop with a 1060ti GPU to something better sometime on the first trimester of next year, thanks to supporters on Patreon and Itch. They are the real MVPs. And then slowly add animations to all lewd scenes present in the game, without increasing development time over more than 4 months. When the game is finished, I don't want a single lewd scene without animations, and I'll even add more content to some of them. But a thing at a time.


Other pair of interesting comments next to each other:

I doubt just because somebody' is a "sub" they'd all like something like this. Then again, I'm hardly some BDSM expert. And the more I see of it in video games, the less I wanna know about it, lol.

Love the femdom in this game

It's no surprise that people that aren't into more kinky forms of femdom don't like the femdom scenes, and people that are into it like them (for the record, femdom enthusiasts have commented that that particular scene with Deb was even quite vanilla...).

There are other paths in the game, with other girls, that have softer forms of femdom. For example, with Lea there is softer femdom-ish content if you are into that. And then there's all the other scenes that are more vanillla or maledom. Deb even has a scene like that this chapter on her non-femdom path.

 

[gregers]

Interesting sequence of comments:

Some people want more animations:

Other's more player options:

Others less development time:

I hope you can appreciate that you can only pick one from those three.

Ooh, in that case I'll pick number two, thanks!

 

[gregers]

Oh, also. Chapter 4:

I was slightly annoyed that in the similar menu in chapter 4, the only alternative to being in love with one of the girls is for the MC to believe himself incapable of love. (Don't have the game to hand, don't remember the exact phrasing.)

Rather than, say, "some of these girls seem pretty nice but we've only just started exploring things so let's hold off on the love-talk for a moment", or even "these girls are nice enough, but there isn't one that appeals specifically to me and that's cool."

I choose to believe it's just the MC's delusions or trauma or whatever speaking, but it still seemed an odd leap. I still haven't seen a great in-game explanation for why he's so clueless when it comes to relationships and sex.

Chapter 5:

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I feel personally attacked.

 

[DarknessDai]

Interesting sequence of comments:

Some people want more animations:


Other's more player options:



Others less development time:


I hope you can appreciate that you can only pick one from those three.

Anyway, the plan is to upgrade from my old laptop with a 1060ti GPU to something better sometime on the first trimester of next year, thanks to supporters on Patreon and Itch. They are the real MVPs. And then slowly add animations to all lewd scenes present in the game, without increasing development time over more than 4 months. When the game is finished, I don't want a single lewd scene without animations, and I'll even add more content to some of them. But a thing at a time.


Other pair of interesting comments next to each other:





It's no surprise that people that aren't into more kinky forms of femdom don't like the femdom scenes, and people that are into it like them (for the record, femdom enthusiasts have commented that that particular scene with Deb was even quite vanilla...).

There are other paths in the game, with other girls, that don't have softer forms of femdom. For example, with Lea there are more soft femdom-ish content if you are into that. And then there's all the other scenes that are vanillla or maledom. Deb even has a scene like that this chapter on her non-femdom path.

i really like your Deb femdom route don't ever change it dev

 

[DaFlurbIsHere]

Oh, also. Chapter 4:


Chapter 5:

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I feel personally attacked.

Funny, I was just thinking about mentioning the weird tone of the angry purple text too. I'm running through this game totally celibate because none of the girls appeal to me - it happens (more than you would think) and honestly, rejecting everybody you don't like is very satisfying. So for MCs inner voice to start berating him like this is... uttery bizarre. He made a mistake in the past, doesn't repeat the mistake now and doesn't play around with other people's emotions. And he's a bad guy now??? Probably would have been better to make two versions, one for an MC who fools around but doesn't commit, one for an MC who stays far away from all the crazies lovely ladies, but I understand that this would lead to far too much work. It just makes for a big disconnect with what is on screen and how I motivate MC's actions...

 

[gregers]

Funny, I was just thinking about mentioning the weird tone of the angry purple text too. I'm running through this game totally celibate because none of the girls appeal to me - it happens (more than you would think) and honestly, rejecting everybody you don't like is very satisfying. So for MCs inner voice to start berating him like this is... uttery bizarre. He made a mistake in the past, doesn't repeat the mistake now and doesn't play around with other people's emotions. And he's a bad guy now??? Probably would have been better to make two versions, one for an MC who fools around but doesn't commit, one for an MC who stays far away from all the crazies lovely ladies, but I understand that this would lead to far too much work. It just makes for a big disconnect with what is on screen and how I motivate MC's actions...

I mean, the dude is clearly not well, so having his internal monologue be a bit off is perhaps to be expected. Hilariously, his new career path may be the only one he could be less suited for than his current job.

 

[Azerin]

There are other paths in the game, with other girls, that don't have softer forms of femdom. For example, with Lea there are more soft femdom-ish content if you are into that. And then there's all the other scenes that are vanillla or maledom. Deb even has a scene like that this chapter on her non-femdom path.

Going to have to agree with Porthas here in the hopes you consider adding some softer options for Deb in the future. The first couple scenes were great but it escalates from foot worship (quite vanilla) to her basically telling you to swear off conventional orgasms altogether (quite heavy) in the space of 1 lewd scene.

I mean it even makes narrative sense that MC who is in the process of exploring being a sub for the first time would come across some stuff he doesn't like. There is also the context of the lewd scenes where many begin with MC's intention to basically comfort Deb he goes along with it. For Deb it also makes sense she might be in a darker mindset due to prolonged relationship issues and excessive sexual frustration maybe she goes overboard with MC a bit. She's been shown to be quite considerate and is "kind to those she cares about" so certainly they could sit down and have a conversation about what they are both enjoying and how to best proceed so both sides are satisfied if things become a bit more regular and official for them at some point.

I know you've said there are other chars with lighter options but consider that a LOT of players like Deb specifically which is a testament to the writing and character development given to her. So please consider throwing a bone to the Deb fans who while they enjoy some femdom can't exactly become a transcendent level sub abandoning all personal satisfaction.

It is indeed more work but plenty of lewd scenes already have 2 variations based on kinks so its not really a big departure from the norm thus far if a scene has lighter or more extreme femdom as the options. I would personally be deeply regretful to have to abandon this Deb path due to dev time constraints on relatively minor scene variations (which again, make perfect narrative sense for both chars already).

 

[zircoin]

are there any sharing scenes in the game yet? @

There is no sharing tag, I think you mean Swinging:

• Swinging [A couple allowing one or both partners to have sex with a third party.]

There is no content with that yet, although Jen's "femdom" path will have it where she and the MC can both submit to a domme, or she can have sex with dominant men, or both (player chooses). In her maledom path, she's happy to submit to dominant MC and there is none of those options.

I don't know if the tag should be added now or when there is actually content of it in game. But I'll add it now to the OP.

is there any sharing scenes in the game yet?

 

[Mister_M]

I hope you can appreciate that you can only pick one from those three.

I pick more choices for the player.

There are other paths in the game, with other girls, that have softer forms of femdom. For example, with Lea there is softer femdom-ish content if you are into that. And then there's all the other scenes that are more vanillla or maledom. Deb even has a scene like that this chapter on her non-femdom path.

Maybe I'm weird, but so far I don't think that there was any hard femdom in the game. There was one thing I wouldn't do IRL, but I'd say it's all soft to medium on femdom scale for me.

Regarding chastity cage since we have options to not bring it up in a first place and to take it off later, I kinda assumed that - similarly to asking/not asking about feet (smelling) earlier - this choices (and possibly others in the future) lead to 2 paths: one where MC forsakes his orgasms alltogether (gradually) and one where MC does have orgasms (but only when Deb decides he can). I don't know why but I also get the feeling that if he'd really want to she'd allow MC to have normal orgasms from time to time too. I mean she accepted a lot of non-femdom stuff while being with Carl so such much, much smaller compromise seems not out of the question if she'd really fall in love with MC.

 

[Jeevant]

He man, sorry if this has been asked before.

Is this mod compatible with untouched, virgin saves?

Yes

 

[Bouncy Gimp]

It's no surprise that people that aren't into more kinky forms of femdom don't like the femdom scenes, and people that are into it like them (for the record, femdom enthusiasts have commented that that particular scene with Deb was even quite vanilla...).

The femdom is still light, but the buildup and the conversations between MC and the dommes make it fun and somewhat realistic. Extreme femdom games that jump right into fucking the MC up both physically and mentally are still fun, but the slow natural build of the fem/sub relationship is always more fun.

 

[Purple Lagoon]

Hey, I'm just curious...
How many players are on an exclusive path with one of the girls and how many players are cheating around?

 

[Mister_M]

how many players are cheating around?

Is it still cheating if my MC isn't commited to anyone? My MC (on my main playthrough at least) continues getting to know intimately Emma, Deb and Bri, but the moment he'll start relationship with any of them he'll commit only to her.

 

[gregers]

Similarly, my MC is fooling around with everyone except Kim but hasn't committed to an exclusive relationship with any of them (and most likely won't; he doesn't have any particular crush).

 

[DarknessDai]

lol , i played all routes very Excited for Jen sharing Route , i wonder if we will get NTR route ? since this game is kink Friendly i'm excited to see this Dev take on NTR

 

[HunterSeeker]

Damn. The writing in this game is just so top notch. It really helps that some of the random things that are talked about by the MC are things that I believe in my own personal life. It's clear that Mr. Silver Lust has a good head on their shoulder and is a very reasonable person. So much extremism on the internet these days and it's nice to have someone point it out casually even if it's in a fictional story. Keep up the great work and I look forward to future updates.

I haven't played chess since I was a child, but I'm really loving the chess scenes. Maybe since it's pretty unique for a porn game to have such detailed descriptions of the matches. But also, the writing does such a good job of explaining the action. It feels like I'm watching a sports/eSports game with great casting.

 

[noway1]

The femdom is still light, but the buildup and the conversations between MC and the dommes make it fun and somewhat realistic. Extreme femdom games that jump right into fucking the MC up both physically and mentally are still fun, but the slow natural build of the fem/sub relationship is always more fun.

Totally agree. Very awesome written femdom.
There are a lot of pure femdom games that after a few moments (or even from the beginning) end up in an endless repetition of different hard core femdom scenes. Don't get me wrong, it is also good material, but for me the slow transformation from normal to femdom is the better part of all the games. And this type of transition can only be created with high quality story telling, as it is done here.

Nevertheless, I mislike that the MC has to convince every girl to participate in his femdom kink in this game. That is just like topping from the bottom. I had hopes that at least Kim would make the MC his victim on her own.

Hopefully MrSilverlust knows his fanbase well and we see another game from him with a focus on pure femdom.

 

[Azerin]

How can you claim to like the character when you specifically hate what the character is?

I don't have much interest in Deb's path as I've posted before, but she shouldn't change. Deb is who she is, if she wasn't so dominant why would there even have been an issue with Carl, her fiancee, who she got along so well with outside of the bedroom? That's a core part of her character. Toning down her femdom kills her character completely and removes the strength of her character and uniqueness. It weakens the writing and cheapens the authenticity and realistic feeling of the game setting. In real life we don't get to just change people to what we want them to be, sometimes we just aren't compatible, there might be some subtle changes over time here and there but people won't just completely change and be happy with that. To insist Deb give up her dominant streak because she's too much to handle for some players goes against the entire narrative around her. If that was really the solution, then she should have just done that for Carl, and been unhappy. This is her core character struggle and trait.

I feel like you're misrepresenting my position here, as well as info you get from the game itself regarding Deb's relationship with Carl. First of all I don't hate that Deb is dominant, I wouldn't have gone her route if that bothered me. What I said was that the femdom escalates from relatively light stuff to quite heavier themes quickly into territory mild to moderate femdom enthusiasts might have trouble enjoying.

As for her relationship with Carl, to me it seems like he isn't into femdom at all based on his scenes. If you let Deb dominate you he just complains he wants Deb to fuck you (instead of her being in control of the action). And if you bull Deb he clearly loathes the idea of chastity (calling it "ridiculous"). So at this point it really isn't clear that Deb has extreme tendencies, just that Carl isn't into the idea of entry level stuff like face sitting. Additionally the cuckolding stuff seems more for Carl's benefit than Deb's as she mentions several times she would prefer monogamy, so she was already kind of compromising for his benefit and he was still unhappy. That is a WAY different situation than her relationship with MC, who is into at least trying femdom, and certainly enjoys some parts of it.

I certainly never suggested that Deb give up her dominant streak, that would be tragic indeed, merely that she try to work with MC to see what things he's enjoying the most within the context of femdom so they're both happy. Basic communication stuff, that's all. Unlike with Carl MC is definitely a fan of some things Deb likes so they have a much better foundation to build off of. But again, I think something like that is a more reasonable expectation if they have a frequent, official relationship compared to their rather spur of the moment encounters thus far, all of which start with MC trying to cheer up or comfort Deb, so he's not really approaching it from a personal enjoyment viewpoint to begin with. I also really don't feel it would weaken the writing or her authenticity to have a conversation like that, she's already been shown to be very considerate to MC! She also has relatively large incentive to make sure MC is happy with the intimate encounters as she has already lamented how hard it is to find a submissive guy and MC is really trying, on top of being an overall nice dude to her. He was clearly dismayed by the ruined orgasm and her denial of traditional sex, so it's not just me saying I don't like it, MC clearly has some regrets too. Do you really feel like Deb is so stubborn that she can't have thoughts like "hmm MC was sad I didn't let him orgasm last time, he's served me properly recently so I'll make him cum his brains out with my feet, or a facesitting handjob or -insert femdom fetish-". I mean it's literally written into her kinks that she is kind to people she cares about and rewards good behavior. It would not be hard at all for her to put together some femdom stuff she knows MC would enjoy as an act of kindness or a reward for maybe going out of his comfort zone a little. I find it really hard to believe she is only willing to accept a partner that completely transcends personal gratification altogether.

Finding the right way to balance 2 options would be pretty hard though as what people consider vanilla vs extreme varies wildly. For me personally I would enjoy a variation where the MC gets off properly, at least most of the time. A lot of femdom goes in that direction anyways where they frame it as getting the receiver addicted to the pleasure only they can provide, rather than what we've seen recently which is extreme denial of pleasure. Like if Deb gave you such a mind blowing orgasm with her thighs after not cumming for 2 weeks at her behest, MC might willingly accept wearing chastity afterwards since its connected to the pleasure. Or we got the fake "sex" scene in ch5, she was already rubbing her ass on your dick a bit, she could have finished you off. She still gets to tease you about not fucking her for real but at least you satisfied her and got a buttjob out of it so not really big deal to complain about in my books. At that point she already got off too so I don't see it seriously affecting her enjoyment. Doesn't have to be all the time either, that surprise ruined orgasm out of nowhere isn't really a deal breaker for me, its that she is basically saying you will never get a normal orgasm again that pushes it into the "hard to enjoy" category.