NTR fans why do you like NTR?!? (I like NTR)

[SpoiledPrince]

I mean, yeah I think sappy happy endings are something many get tired of...

wait a second...is this who I think it is? An example of an MC from a chronically *unfinished* book series that *opens* as the retelling of a tale that ended in tragedy as MC is forced to hide his identity and live out his old age as a mundane innkeep on the far-flung fringes of civilization? What part of this is a happy ending? Certainly MC's hubris is a running theme, but that being one of his flaws is also fairly central if I'm remembering correctly.

And speaking of remembering correctly, I'm 90% certain this was:
1. Fey nympho lady taught virgin MC how to pleasure her/women in general.
2. MC survived due to his wit and eloquence--coming from a family of storytellers/bards--along with his own quick thinking. Sure they had lots of sex and sure the immortal nympho enjoyed the sex. But she was very much okay with MC meeting the same end as all her other ensnared mortals: Death by snoo-snoo and wasn't likely to be missing his dick other than the fact that she just, really liked dick in general.

A truly strange example to pivot into from your initial opening. Surely you could've found a better example.


There's a special kind of irony to including this bit as though this doesn't also perfectly describe 99% of the guy doing the cucking in NTR games. You get the same "near-faceless MC devoid of personality but an absolute sex-machine with a magic dick and all the women love him for it" with the only twist in most NTR "antagonists" being either: ugly bastards, openly shitty personalities, or both compared to the nice-guy protagonist in vanilla harem stuff.

Like, don't get me wrong, I can sorta get where you're coming from, but about every example you're giving makes it sound like you either don't play NTR games or have somehow completely missed the parallels between the NTR chad and typical eroge protag-kun.
If nothing else:

you nailed this part of your post. 10/10 for honesty.

I'm not sure about that. Don't forget effective communication requires for both the sender and the receiver of the message to be competent, and from your answer there's ground to believe that my broken English is not the only thing to blame...

 

[Sheppd]

I still can't tell why so many people self insert into everything. They're stories/games/books/etc., etc...

Then there's the other matter of "Why does the character have to own all the women for you...?"

 

[Uthuriel]

I still can't tell why so many people self insert into everything. They're stories/games/books/etc., etc...

Because the game asks you to name the MC. That's the player character.
Meaning you the player assumes the role of the MC.

Then there's the other matter of "Why does the character have to own all the women for you...?"

Weird question. Who said you have to "own" anyone? Own is a weird descriptor in itself... it's not about ownership to begin with.
If you mean in a harem context then it's the genre itself, but even in most of those you can reject girls.
One man, multiple women. simple concept.

 

[Logan1377]

I still can't tell why so many people self insert into everything. They're stories/games/books/etc., etc...

Then there's the other matter of "Why does the character have to own all the women for you...?"

I agree with you. For me, sex games are no different than mainstream games in that regard. The character is a dude that I'm controlling on the screen to have a fun time with, knowing the whole time that its a video game and not myself.

Before I started posting here, had you asked me what percentage of people would self insert and apparently completely lose themselves in the experience, I'd have guessed maybe 5-10%. But I've learned that almost everything that's my own perference - 3rd person, sandbox, multiple partners, group sex, sex as casual consensual fun - are all not only in the minority, but strongly hated by a vocal percentage of the community.

I don't play games because I want to be the person in the game. I do because I want to control the pacing and order of the experience in ways that real porn or erotic stories and comics can't offer.

 

[Tadpol]

I don't play games because I want to be the person in the game. I do because I want to control the pacing and order of the experience in ways that real porn or erotic stories and comics can't offer.

However, the game does lead you to embody the MC. For example, kinks are generally the player's before they are the MC's. I understand that you can project yourself into the MC, but not to the point of being personally upset or hurt by what happens in-game.

Some people don't just project themselves into the character, they also consider the game to be a kind of ideal world, a kind of daydream, and the return to reality is violent for them. To put it another way, the fantasy must be carried out completely and without the slightest hitch, otherwise it frustrates them.

 

[EdenGenesis]

I agree that NTR is about believable corruption, but sadly in most NTR-games it isn't the case. Devs basicly just do the opposite to non-NTR-games. Insteed of the mc having a huge magic dick, god-tier sex skills out of nowhere or beeing the cool/bad guy, it's the antagonist.

Thats disappointing, because cheating is actually pretty common irl. (harem, incest, you name it, not that much ^^)
So, I don't get, why most devs put so little effort to even try to make somewhat realistic storytelling and corruption progression. It's not that hard to do some basic research, why people cheat or just use common logic, brainstorming, whatever. What's even more dissapointing, if the actual writing is good, but the story is just unbelieveble, such a waste of patential.

I completely share your perspective! This game could have achieved masterpiece status if the elements you suggested were incorporated into the storyline, making it more grounded. While we understand that games often involve elements of fantasy, the current plot lacks believability. In real life, it's improbable for someone as unsavory as Inoda to corrupt the main character with such behavior. However, given the nature of hentai logic, realism takes a back seat, resulting in a predictably linear plot with no surprising twists. The only redeeming factor might be the enjoyment of the CG, which would be better appreciated if all the content were accessible from the start, considering the game's current subpar quality.

 

[badlulu]

Because the game asks you to name the MC. That's the player character.
Meaning you the player assumes the role of the MC.

You know what I never name the character? My own name.

I think the option is provided because a bunch of self-inserts can't seem to handle not BEING the character in the game, so the author provides the option to name the character since it's relatively easy to do. That doesn't mean that you're becoming the character though. You're still the puppeteer, not the puppet. Don't ask me how y'all handle playing Tomb Raider or Bayonetta or whatever.

 

[Uthuriel]

That doesn't mean that you're becoming the character though. You're still the puppeteer, not the puppet.

Really? I'm not magically pulled through my display to the porn world?
Did you find this out yourself or did you have help with this grandiose discovery...

 

[Trickstar]

If I could be magically pulled through my screen, Id be fucking a gardevoir right now in pokemon lol.

 

[badlulu]

Really? I'm not magically pulled through my display to the porn world?
Did you find this out yourself or did you have help with this grandiose discovery...

You'd be surprised at how many of the 'self-inserters' seem to be confused about this fact.

 

[Uthuriel]

You'd be surprised at how many of the 'self-inserters' seem to be confused about this fact.

Nobody is confused. It's just a style of playing AVNs. Nothing more. Like if you play warrior or mage in an RPG.
If people self-insert let them. If they don't who cares.
In the end games are just a tool for escapism at worst and relaxation at best.
How that is achieved is everybody's own business.

 

[badlulu]

Nobody is confused. It's just a style of playing AVNs. Nothing more. Like if you play warrior or mage in an RPG.
If people self-insert let them. If they don't who cares.
In the end games are just a tool for escapism at worst and relaxation at best.
How that is achieved is everybody's own business.

There's an awful lot of screeching from the people who say that they 'have to self insert' and that content that doesn't serve them because they self-insert is an affront against them in some fashion.

I totally don't give a shit if someone wants to self-insert. What I get bothered by is the people who complain about content that doesn't meet their personal criteria - and I find that people who self-insert are more often on the complaining side of that equation. My assumption is that is because the content that fits them when they feel like they have to embody the character is much more limited than someone who can approach content from a variety of perspectives.

 

[neodymiumx]

it doesn't bother me as much as it used to and i'll consume stuff that contains it now but I originally really hated it. I think it was just a visceral reaction in my gut to the idea of infidelity in general. Probably real life concerns or insecurities about my relationships bleeding into and ruining my fantasy interests ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ .

 

[Logan1377]

However, the game does lead you to embody the MC. For example, kinks are generally the player's before they are the MC's. I understand that you can project yourself into the MC, but not to the point of being personally upset or hurt by what happens in-game.

Some people don't just project themselves into the character, they also consider the game to be a kind of ideal world, a kind of daydream, and the return to reality is violent for them. To put it another way, the fantasy must be carried out completely and without the slightest hitch, otherwise it frustrates them.

I mean, that's not really realistic with any game, porn or otherwise. Its not being made, or catered just to you. Its being made for lots of people, in the way that the developer desires. So its up to the player to decide whether the stuff that they don't enjoy is too much or whether they can ignore or move past it.

I personally have zero desire for anything related to BDSM, for example. I hate it, and anything sexually violent, even if its consensual. But lots of games include it, so if I can't turn it off, then I just skip through it. If there's too much or its more of a focus than I thought, then I bail on the game and move on to something else. No big deal.

 

[The Lewd Gamer]

I like how many here say why they like NTR. And let me share: I like NTR sometimes...
I'll use an example: I am not a big fan of Power Vacuum for its story, but I do follow the game just for the small (but good) NTR content that it has. Don't know why, but I love seeing Sterling (the MC for those who don't know) watch his family members and friends get fucked by other people (people which are, for the purpose of the game, more ugly than him. And not even fiscally, just straight up personality wise... that kind of ugly).
But as OP said in the first post, I don't like the fantasy of getting cucked myself, and don't watch porn videos on that "category", since I don't like real life infidelity. So that's why: I like NTR sometimes.

 

[badlulu]

I mean, that's not really realistic with any game, porn or otherwise. Its not being made, or catered just to you. Its being made for lots of people, in the way that the developer desires. So its up to the player to decide whether the stuff that they don't enjoy is too much or whether they can ignore or move past it.

I personally have zero desire for anything related to BDSM, for example. I hate it, and anything sexually violent, even if its consensual. But lots of games include it, so if I can't turn it off, then I just skip through it. If there's too much or its more of a focus than I thought, then I bail on the game and move on to something else. No big deal.

Exactly. I don't dig monstergirl stuff most of the time. A little bit is fine, but most of the fully 'monstergirl centric' games have this whole "Virgin MC who doesn't want to be dominated by these sexy dommy mommies (but secretly does)" thing that I just don't find appealing at all. When I see the tag, I'm usually skeptical that I'm going to be interested, but there are exceptions for sure. What I DON'T do is go posting in that game's thread about my personal preferences. Nobody cares. It's not for me, and that's okay. I'm a big boy. I can manage my own likes and dislikes without demanding that everyone else try to cater to me.

 

[Satyrsfaction]

Because the game asks you to name the MC. That's the player character.
Meaning you the player assumes the role of the MC.

Small suggestion for Netorare games
In case you can or even have to give the main character a name
AND you hate the feeling of being humiliated,
then just give the MC a name of someone you don't like or even hate.

 

[Xeline]

Small suggestion for Netorare games
In case you can or even have to give the main character a name
AND you hate the feeling of being humiliated,
then just give the MC a name of someone you don't like or even hate.

psychopath shit

 

[Trickstar]

Small suggestion for Netorare games
In case you can or even have to give the main character a name
AND you hate the feeling of being humiliated,
then just give the MC a name of someone you don't like or even hate.

Bruh at that point just play a netori game, at least you get sex out of it from your perspective then.

 

[badlulu]

Bruh at that point just play a netori game, at least you get sex out of it from your perspective then.

My perspective is as the player.