cIoseopenbrutal

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Bad drawings ≠ Incorrect anatomy OF FINGERS = AI CG (Are you for real defending these fingers??)
I'd get that this is not AI CG if someone not even in grade 1 drew this, but we all know that wouldn't be true.
Been following this dev from his ci-en since his first game, and I can vouch for the dev that he doesnt do ai.

As an artist, I do see those minor anatomy errors he has in his works even in his previous games (for example, the foreshortening style, fingers, and even the length of legs).It doesnt really bother me, but I dont see it as ai work. I often oversee these things as well, and I'm a decent artist with a good concept on art.

Maybe try researching/playing the developer's previous games first before throwing these claims to not embarass yourself even further.
 

ehendu

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Bad drawings ≠ Incorrect anatomy OF FINGERS = AI CG (Are you for real defending these fingers??)
I'd get that this is not AI CG if someone not even in grade 1 drew this, but we all know that wouldn't be true.
Indeed. Hands/fingers are totally not one of the most popular memes of "how the fuck do you draw normal looking hands?" since before AI drawings... No dog in this fight but people have been fucking up hands and fingers for since we've been drawing hands and fingers. AI just happens to be the hot new take on comically poorly drawn hands.
 
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ehendu

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You don't have to accept it, but that's the genre as the Japanese have made it.

As long as the MC is emotionally interested in the other party but the other party gets "taken" by someone else, that's NTR. Citations? Just look at all the NTR works, that's your citations. You literally just proved it yourself: "plenty of instances where MC's mom is fucking someone and it's labeled as netorare" <- (that meant the MC was secretly into his mom or open to incest btw).

Wild that y'all can't accept this when it's all over your eyes with all these NTR works and still debate about this lol. You can have your own definition of whatever you like, but this is what the Japanese had it entailed in the word. The term in Japanese literally translates to "to be taken away" (think of the English sentence: "the one that got away" when referring to a girl whom you had a crush on; even if the other party was never in an official relationship with you it still applies), it was meant to be broadly defined and more than just your usual cheating while leaning more towards cuckoldry.
Pedant's gonna pedant. Leave 'em be, or tell them to come up with a few more derivatives of NTR so we have more than just Netorare, Netorase, and Netori to confuse people over what in the heck NTR means. But then again, simply co-opting an existing word is easier than coming up with new ones or accepting reality.
 

cIoseopenbrutal

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The game is pretty much only about netorase.
I want to clarify this to you and to other people that thinks this game is netorase:


I havent finished the game yet, but I already know the premise of it to say these things. If you were "peeking" at the antagonists, it's not really the mc whose peeking. It's YOU as the player.

Some devs use the mc directly as a tool to make YOU as the player, see and unlock events.Because they dont know how to implement a better way to do it.

and if you're paying attention, after "peeking" at the scenes, the MC has ZERO reactions about it.


Also the dev wouldve mentioned that this game is netorase in the first place , if that's his intention, which isnt. You can see this gameplay happening in one of the most popular ntr games out there called Scars of Summer as well.
 

Ferghus

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You do? Name at least one porn game that has time limit, and has the same vibe this game has that you enjoyed.Ofcourse, dont forget that part where you made an effort at it.

Because most normal people prefer to play games without complex mechanics,as far as I know.


But yeah, either way, I respect that opinion.
I liked Time Loop NTR. Didn't like Sexy Bar as much because that shit was 100% RNG. I'll probably try the Barbarian one at some point, since I've been hearing good things about it.
 
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Ferghus

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Thats the definition that fits the work that come from japan with the big NTR letter attached to its tittle. Even JAVs follow this guidelines where moms, teachers and crushes are the attached to DVDs with BIG NTR letters in the tittle.

I mean if you want to argue that the japanese porn industry doesnt know what netorare means be my guess, but you would sound silly.

the sense of loss can come because an oportunity was stolen (in the sense of crushes) or the affection/relationship you already had was stolen. Take moms for example, the sense of loss comes from neglect. Moms stolen by bullies/teachers/random old bastards in netorares stop caring for their sons and start to neglect their relationships. The artist laliberte makes plenty of this stories and even conects some them to each other, where the victim of the previous one becomes the prepetrator of the next.

From Lalibertes "Reverse": The home i cherished with my mom.... And the precious memories i shared with my mom....They're no more...I no longer belong in this home. If only i grew up sooner and i was stronger.. could i have protected mom from all this?

Thats NTR
I don't really want to get into this further, but it's been pretty well established that NTR and netorare aren't interchangeable anymore. For example, NTR Legend and its copycats are all about netori. But again, I'm not just going to take your word for it any more than you're going to take my word for it.
 

cIoseopenbrutal

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1 more time: preg content or no preg content and it's just game-over/bad end?
From what I read from the previous post, there's preg ending. No idea about the antagonist preg end(Im still half way in this game atm) but someone mentioned vanilla route has preg ending.
 

DrakeWasHere2

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How do I trigger the Janitor with her?

The closest I got was some scene with peeking and he caught me, but I haven't manage any pairings for them after.
 

quanbe

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This the kind of NTR with a bad end no matter what and the MC never gets any action? Or choices for a good ending?
mc can actually get in a relationshiph with fmc and have decent amount of action + not the small cock cuck beta thing like in 99% of the NTR . He can also prevent the NTR dudes to take any actions and have a sweet happy ending with fmc . mc can also being a huge stalker/peeping tom and just watch fmc getting fucked by other dude but he doesn't even react/ said anything which is odd and out of character
 

acezero99

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So anyone know how to unlock the last three scenes for the nun? Already completed one route (MC), I have no clue how to trigger them; I've been checking the confessional room and the paizuri/cowgirl rooms constantly.

On NG+ I tested to see if they were make-up scenes for failing exams, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
(Also, why only include hints on the MC route, yet everything else is blank?)
 

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Mild Guide after a single run + Thoughts:

Basic premise is you gotta hit 50+ in stats to not fail the exams, which can immediately game over you. over time people will find out your gf
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and they use that to blackmail her into sex. you can't stop them from finding out but lockpicks allow you to break in and stop them if you want a pure ending. ^ this also lowers the chances of the same molester going for her, and lets you choose who goes for her. the dialogue is kind of half assed when it comes to nuance. for example, in one of the endings
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so I think the endings are meant to be more "pure" endings. 1 pure ending per route. technically 2(?) endings on main char:

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I recommend just doing a dump run where you farm stats to not get kicked out of school, but level up all the skills [minus ero skills unless you want those too].

stamina most important for the dump run, gives you more trainings per day.
gold 2nd most important so you can buy the ero status unlocks. (cost 1k each and lets you know her sex stats)

lock picks matter for "real run" when you want to watch scenes or want to STOP scenes. you get pixel scenes if you just peek, gotta pick locks to go in and view the full scene OR to interrupt them and stop scene entirely. the game is 2 gigs because all the sex scenes are voiced and animated (poorly imo. it reminds me of those image benders but slightly better)

there's a LOT of sex scenes, I've only done one route but I nutted 4 times to it tonight so... it's good.

just waaay too light on the corruption and dialogue. it feels like you're just collecting scenes and there's not really a feeling of her falling into corruption and such. She doesn't compare or have guilty thoughts when she has sex with you after being with someone else. She doesn't mention having a boyfriend and feeling guilty if she fucks someone on a route where you're dating. [except maybe on the spoiler'd Main Character Endings I mentioned above.] It just kind of happened and whatever. that might have been the route I was on tho. will update (if you're interested) when I've done another run.
 

naofumiwatani

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So anyone know how to unlock the last three scenes for the nun? Already completed one route (MC), I have no clue how to trigger them; I've been checking the confessional room and the paizuri/cowgirl rooms constantly.

On NG+ I tested to see if they were make-up scenes for failing exams, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
(Also, why only include hints on the MC route, yet everything else is blank?)
in newgame+ just watch all of her scene without missing
 
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