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[Yambidexter]

Well, as far as i'm concenred if you consider spending that much money, i would much rather pay them to guy that actually knows japanese. And let me tell you, there are quite few of them at level necessary to translate things like that.

I'd much rather see myself Tsumamigui, some Anim and other best games translated manually by someone proficient in both English and Japanese, preferably as 1st and 2nd language (any of them native I mean and the other one second language, though probably it's even better if Japanese is native), but there aren't many potential suitors as you mention yourself. I guess the reason is that people with skillset including fluency in both of the languages have better & more profitable things to do apart from rare enthusiasts like Capu or Taihen Tsuma who still expect to be supported via Patreon. Saikey is a decent sized organization by now I suppose so it's outside of my considerations here. 'Better things to do' as I say even though engaging such person (and translators are loners usually) to translate such a huge game as Tsumamigui 3 would cost something like adding 0 to Dazedanon estimates and then multiplying that a couple of times at least, IMO.

 

[stupid_army]

Just the demo, its MC.



I get that, I mean it's basically the exact same as Raiougar just changing the combat style. They are just coloring inside the lines of the NTR coloring book. Its steady money after all. Still does it for me, but totally understand how that could burn someone out.

Not full release yet?

edit: Aw fuck September

 

[dark -ryu]

insect NTR anyone?

the only game I know would be from this developer:

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[archdude]

I'd much rather see myself Tsumamigui, some Anim and other best games translated manually by someone proficient in both English and Japanese, preferably as 1st and 2nd language (any of them native I mean and the other one second language, though probably it's even better if Japanese is native), but there aren't many potential suitors as you mention yourself. I guess the reason is that people with skillset including fluency in both of the languages have better & more profitable things to do apart from rare enthusiasts like Capu or Taihen Tsuma who still expect to be supported via Patreon. Saikey is a decent sized organization by now I suppose so it's outside of my considerations here. 'Better things to do' as I say even though engaging such person (and translators are loners usually) to translate such a huge game as Tsumamigui 3 would cost something like adding 0 to Dazedanon estimates and then multiplying that a couple of times at least, IMO.

So i just checked this Tsumamigui 3 out and gotta say it is perfectly hookable, so it it's not a problem to extract text out of it, may be its a problem to pack translation back, idk.
Judging by first few dozens lines that i checked it is quite intelligible when deepl'd, idk what that guy did with it with his deepl translation but it does seem worse. Not to mention that japanese itself is nothing special, there are much much harder VNs out there, and hiring native to translate it is clear overkill. Nukige (porngames) tend to have rather simple japanese, so no surprise there tbh, heck even I can read it quite comfortably with dictionary and i'm only beginner, so yeah, i'm pretty sure you overestimate the problem.
The only problem i can imagine, is when woman is moaning usually her words are interjected by moans or cut short, so you can see only part of words in kana (japanese alphabet, contrary to "kanji" - hieroglyphs) and you kinda have to guess what she tried to say cause it is not parsable, but i would say that is not a biggy even if you miss them a little.
P.S. it's not even that long as a VN, sure 40 hours is alot for nukige, but for VN it is nothing special, for example Fate/stay night(i mean single game) is more then twice as long.

 

[DarknessDai]

So i just checked this Tsumamigui 3 out and gotta say it is perfectly hookable, so it it's not a problem to extract text out of it, may be its a problem to pack translation back, idk.
Judging by first few dozens lines that i checked it is quite intelligible when deepl'd, idk what that guy did with it with his deepl translation but it does seem worse. Not to mention that japanese itself is nothing special, there are much much harder VNs out there, and hiring native to translate it is clear overkill. Nukige (porngames) tend to have rather simple japanese, so no surprise there tbh, heck even I can read it quite comfortably with dictionary and i'm only beginner, so yeah, i'm pretty sure you overestimate the problem.
The only problem i can imagine, is when woman is moaning usually her words are interjected by moans or cut short, so you can see only part of words in kana (japanese alphabet, contrary to "kanji" - hieroglyphs) and you kinda have to guess what she tried to say cause it is not parsable, but i would say that is not a biggy even if you miss them a little.
P.S. it's not even that long as a VN, sure 40 hours is alot for nukige, but for VN it is nothing special, for example Fate/stay night(i mean single game) is more then twice as long.

yeh but the guy said he's going to Translate it with chat GPT 3.5 , i did check his works with other games its actually very very good so i'm going to wait for him to finish this and enjoy this game , i just have another question is the company that made Tsumamigui 3 still on ? is there other games like this or any other upcoming ones ?

 

[archdude]

yeh but the guy said he's going to Translate it with chat GPT 3.5 , i did check his works with other games its actually very very good so i'm going to wait for him to finish this and enjoy this game , i just have another question is the company that made Tsumamigui 3 still on ? is there other games like this or any other upcoming ones ?

That's not hard to check yourself:

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last one was this: VN - Others - Completed - A Housewife’s Healing Touch [Final] [AliceSoft] | F95zone
and i remeber playing it, art was nice but plot was complete fail.

 

[Yambidexter]

yeh but the guy said he's going to Translate it with chat GPT 3.5 , i did check his works with other games its actually very very good so i'm going to wait for him to finish this and enjoy this game , i just have another question is the company that made Tsumamigui 3 still on ? is there other games like this or any other upcoming ones ?

Who'd that be, the one translating it with ChatGPT 3.5? Do you have a quote/link?

There are such things called Internet and VNDB, you know. The company released last year that nonsensical game split into NTR and Pure love parts and with English translation (Homare art), the other one well known is Oyako Rankan and obviously there are 2 earlier parts of Tsumamigui but they are kind of dated (20 years old). Check their other games on VNDB, ratings, tags, reviews. News too, but usually announced games but not released yet would appear there too at the end of the list, e.g. the latest Anim game scheduled for late Septemer release.

So i just checked this Tsumamigui 3 out and gotta say it is perfectly hookable, so it it's not a problem to extract text out of it, may be its a problem to pack translation back, idk.
P.S. it's not even that long as a VN, sure 40 hours is alot for nukige, but for VN it is nothing special, for example Fate/stay night(i mean single game) is more then twice as long.

Given that Tsumamigui 3 had prologue manually translated 3 years ago and there are Sugoi/Deel MTL, I'm sure packing/unpacking is doable - the one has just to look into it, apart from any other signs that the text is hookable or for whichever reason you checked that. The questions remain the same - whether it's worth it quality and price-wise.

I'm sorry but I doubt I'll ever play any 80 hours+ VN or adult one above 50. Even though there is nukige tag it blows my brain to see it labeled as 40 hours+. The latest Alice Soft game is Nukige alright - no sense story wise, no build-up, bang-bang and you're done in a few hours. The same for Atelier Sakura - their games are like 3-6 hours long, Anim's maybe 12-16 hours and they typically have 18-24k lines of dialogue lately. NTR Homestay kind of stand out because it's over 40k I think. So if a game is 40+ hours it's prety huge to me, maybe there are games 80+ hours long, but amongst adult VNs how many of 40+ hours are out there? Boku no Kanojo wa Gatenkei is maybe 20-30 hours. So it must be 2-3 times the Anim size, text-wise - and that's getting back to the price of potential ChatGPT translation of Tsumamigui 3.

 

[Queen_Nothing]

the only game I know would be from this developer:

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I don't normally like insect enemies, but the games by that dev look decent enough. Know if they're on F95 at all?

 

[CDLara]

So I´ve tried My Perfect Sister.
I must say, it´s a pretty good start to a game.
If you haven't tried it out you should, it left me with wanting more^^

 

[Queen_Nothing]

So I´ve tried My Perfect Sister.
I must say, it´s a pretty good start to a game.
If you haven't tried it out you should, it left me with wanting more^^

Explain the NTR? If the main girl is your sister and some guy 'steals her', that's not really NTR.

 

[CDLara]

Explain the NTR? If the main girl is your sister and some guy 'steals her', that's not really NTR.

The MC is basically a Siscon, but he has other love interests too.

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

Explain the NTR? If the main girl is your sister and some guy 'steals her', that's not really NTR.

That's still ntr , whether you like it or not. Same situation with mother as your love interest. It's incest , but with ntr elements.

 

[Klab040855]

That's still ntr , whether you like it or not. Same situation with mother as your love interest. It's incest , but with ntr elements.

I think he meant if you don't have a romantic relationship with the sister it's not NTR.

 

[Queen_Nothing]

I think he meant if you don't have a romantic relationship with the sister it's not NTR.

That. But I guess it's different if it's some incest game? Do you incest first, turn the sister into your girlfriend, and then lose her?

 

[melantha]

I do not believe you need to have an official romantic relationship with the fmc to get NTR'd.
in the same vein there are many mother NTRs, childhood friends, etc.

to me it's not even if mc likes the fmc. coz it could be fmc likes the mc but seduced by others.
at this point, I'll accept any stolen potential love interest

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

I think he meant if you don't have a romantic relationship with the sister it's not NTR.

That. But I guess it's different if it's some incest game? Do you incest first, turn the sister into your girlfriend, and then lose her?

As long as the mc has love interest on the heroine, it's ntr.

Netorare is focused largely on the fixation of loss, the pain of having someone you love (even if it is not reciprocated or codified) taken away. Just a reminder on what ntr really means.

 

[LordFrz]

As long as the mc has love interest on the heroine, it's ntr.

Netorare is focused largely on the fixation of loss, the pain of having someone you love (even if it is not reciprocated or codified) taken away. Just a reminder on what ntr really means.

There are more types of love than just sexual. Your sister getting a boyfriend she likes and you can be happy for her and it not be NTR. But then she can get a boyfriend who you hate and it is NTR. It's really just how the story sets it up and if the feeling of loss are there. Because if you hate your sister and the boyfriend why would you care about it, which would not be NTR.

At least thats how I see it.

 

[exazubi]

There are more types of love than just sexual. Your sister getting a boyfriend she likes and you can be happy for her and it not be NTR. But then she can get a boyfriend who you hate and it is NTR. It's really just how the story sets it up and if the feeling of loss are there. Because if you hate your sister and the boyfriend why would you care about it, which would not be NTR.

At least thats how I see it.

Again someone who has no idea what NTR really is. NTR wouldn't be until we got into that relationship. She is in a regular relationship with her BF and we are the intruder. In your example we steal the sister out of the relationship.

 

[Klab040855]

I do not believe you need to have an official romantic relationship with the fmc to get NTR'd.
in the same vein there are many mother NTRs, childhood friends, etc.

to me it's not even if mc likes the fmc. coz it could be fmc likes the mc but seduced by others.
at this point, I'll accept any stolen potential love interest

As long as the mc has love interest on the heroine, it's ntr.

Netorare is focused largely on the fixation of loss, the pain of having someone you love (even if it is not reciprocated or codified) taken away. Just a reminder on what ntr really means.

For me that's just boring, i mean who cares if the girl you like is having sex with another guy? i would feel dissapointed but in one or two days i would forget about her, but if you are in a relationship it's different, NTR is only interesting if the protagonist actually have a relationship with the girl.

 

[LordFrz]

Again someone who has no idea what NTR really is. NTR wouldn't be until we got into that relationship. She is in a regular relationship with her BF and we are the intruder. In your example we steal the sister out of the relationship.

I see that as you not understanding what it really means. in my example the MC isn't doing any fucking, What are you on about?

Say you have a kind loving mom. You love your mom, but not in a sexual way. You dont want to fuck your mom. But then a fat ugly bastard come in and turns her into a cum dump. Now shes just a nasty slut. That is still NTR because you LOST your kind loving mom. You dont have to want to fucker her to have NTR.