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[melantha]

First, amazing work laying out your game like this. I appreciate a smart dev who tries to do something out of the norm instead of the same old shit "go here, talk to this person, trigger this scene" or "yes no" for ntr or not.

My first thought when I saw the game was:

1. You're going to need a tremendous number of scenes to keep the game going.
2. You're going to need a lot of programming to even get the game going without the h stuff.
3. Once you're ready to put h stuff in, you're going to need a lot of conditionals to keep the events interesting. For example, you could easily use a classic "corruption" level but you'll end up with repeating events.
3a. For example, if the "FMC is stuck in classroom", turn 1 scene, turn 2 scene, turn 3 scene, etc. path plays out. You're going to run out of scenes fast with how big the board looks
3b. How does the day night cycle come into play here? If FMC is stuck on a trap, scene progresses. An entire day passes? Not understanding this

1. hmm I believe this ties in with your concern #3, that scenes will get depleted quick.
fmc can move the next turn after triggering a scene. she is not stuck.
so all 4 progressive parts of a 'pool event' for example, will not be depleted the moment she steps on one.
she needs to move through the board again and step on another pool event to progress it.

2. it is true, it will have alot of programming, especially not using an already established engine like RPGM nor the like. I've already been working on it since previous concepts, and glad to say the engine is ready, and only the game needs to be built on top of it now.

3. she can move the next turn. she is not stuck in place if she triggers a trap. days will proceed as normal.
this is contrary to the old post where I mentioned you need to reach her to stop the event, but this one is scrapped in the current draft.

I think you should release a very small demo, with a single variation of scene, without images and pure text. Just to see how it plays out. An NTR game like this is diffcult: too easy and the game is irrelevant. Just make it a gallery simulator. Too hard and people will bitch and moan. Too easy and you have to intentionally lose to get scenes.

this is a good idea. just prototype of the interface, gameplay, no images just dialog to see how it feels.
might do that.

 

[Son1cc]

Hot take, I also think Scars of Summer is overhyped. At best it's above average. Not the #1 game that dlsite sales indicate. Definition of overhype.

The corruption and NTR just didn't make much sense. In short...

All of your points come down to realism logic but it's a hentai fiction.. What really matters is whether it's hot or not, so it's all subjective.

 

[Kilometer Immorales]

If you use the bing searcher you can find links, enjoyable game, i really liked the mechanics

Wait, is that game out? Can you share the link here?

 

[Damnboio]

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Has anybody tried this?

 

[LordFrz]

The final comm on Colonel route is fire. What's the name for it?
The part where she makes the camera 'dirty'.
It's so good, I was actually shocked when I see it for the first time. Did RaiOhgar also have it? It had been a long while since I played that.

I agree, what an amazing scene. And no, I dont recall somthin like that in Raiohgar.

 

[Prettz]

I always like Spiral mystery NTR, the game kept you on the edge, teasing you that the NTR has happening when it was not, i never knew when the NTR would happen or if it already happened. I don't get the same feeling from Scars of summer or the gaptax game because you know when the NTR is happening.

yeah I thought things where happening way before they did and with all the clues I found what I thought was going on was way different from what was really going on. Scars of summer and Gaptax has the problem of not really connecting the the main girl while in Spiral Legend V you can spend a good 5 to 10 hours before the NTR even starts with her. that slow unease that builds up even thou things seem to be fine.

 

[LordFrz]

good 5 to 10 hours before the NTR even starts

Yea, and that fuckin sucks. That way too long imo. Now if im playing it every 1-2 months like a WIP game like Hentaria, then its not a big deal. But on a completed game, thats way too long, same way I feel about hentaria chronicles when they are completed. I think something like Gaptax latest game Solgante's, ugly bastard route is perfectly my kind of pacing for a porn game.

Its probably one of the reasons I hated Nebel Geisterjäger, its just way too much of a slow burn for me. (Combat was also ass, lol)

I haven't tried Spiral Legend V yet, are the CGs good? The only images I see are the combat screens. ( Oh, it has no CG, just saw that) Add in your saying it will be a 5+hr investment for anything to get cookin kinda scares me away from it. Yea, probably not a game for me.

Not every game will be made for me, so no big deal.

 

[Shigeru Miyamoto]

Tried this, not impressed.

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One thing to note though, this one has 1 layer of clothing progression with heroine corruption. This makes it different from the other A.I trash. Hopefully the dev experiments with new ideas in his next game. I'm not against A.I art, but if the devs plan to use it then they should improve other areas of the game.

 

[Prettz]

I think something like Gaptax latest game Solgante's, ugly bastard route is perfectly my kind of pacing for a porn game.

Its probably one of the reasons I hated Nebel Geisterjäger, its just way too much of a slow burn for me. (Combat was also ass, lol)

I haven't tried Spiral Legend V yet, are the CGs good? The only images I see are the combat screens. ( Oh, it has no CG, just saw that) Add in your saying it will be a 5+hr investment for anything to get cookin kinda scares me away from it. Yea, probably not a game for me.

Nebel Geisterjäger dose have pasing issues and setting up the NTR to happen is a pain in the game play and battles are slow.

yeah Spiral Legend V might not be for you. to see everthing and not cheat can take a good 50 hours on the game. first time I played it I keept looking for NTR clues not knowing I never trigger the NTR route XD I did enjoy the battle system so I actively grinded and learn all the hidden classes for each character for fun so my play time might be a bit bloated to what it is for most players.

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

Alright , after just finishing the recent Gaptax game (took me a few days), I can honestly say....It's a pretty good game!

The three routes are equally good in their own perspectives. No complex things happening, no bullshits , just a fun game over all.The h sound effects and moans ,albeit being standard, is properly incorporated. Scenes are hot , esp on the playboy and shota route. I also love the upgrade on the screen scenes during missions, compared to his prior game. Also ,it has a decent amount of scene variations in every h event which is always welcome. What else...

...right, there's no sharing the heroine or pimping her out. (Not that it's a bad thing and I dont really mind if that happens, but I enjoy intimate corruption than gangbangs)

Now, for things that it should be implemented to make the game better:

-It's a missed opportunity that there's no proper sfx and va during those missions. A quality asmr style during the scenes wouldve nailed it

-I understand why it's not fully implemented.... wouldve liked it if there's also a cg recollection about the mission scenes but in heroine's perspective.I know there's some, but I want all of it be seen.

-Wouldve been nice if there's an item that teleports you in recollection room instead of always walking back everytime you want to see what happened.

-More Mechanic lady scenes please.Because I'm biased towards short haired busty ladies.

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

The final comm on Colonel route is fire. What's the name for it?

What game is that?

 

[yooloozoo]

What game is that?

[230922][GapTax]戦甲機ソルガンテ
i think..

 

[Pretentious Goblin]

[230922][GapTax]戦甲機ソルガンテ
i think..

Oh it's not translated? Shame.

 

[Kulman]

Oh it's not translated? Shame.

Surprised Dazedanon did not pick it up for his mtl translation yet. Seems he covers most somewhat notable ntr releases.

 

[Reven23]

I suppose the next awaited game is Warshop's?

 

[ZBYToshiro]

Eh.. Why would she even predict it? She didn't know who the traitor was and what choice did she have against blackmail anyway?
It's just a trigger, enough reason to start the corruption.

because it was too obvious, why would she cant even predict it? She didn't even show many hesitation in deciding to agree or setting any boundaries for harassment

agree that is was inherently reason enough, but still not enough to convince me.

 

[GoldBolt]

Surprised Dazedanon did not pick it up for his mtl translation yet. Seems he covers most somewhat notable ntr releases.

Who knows, maybe he'll still do it. What I'd really like to see him translate would be the new trial for Big Breast Party NTR. It seems to be pretty sizable.

 

[Son1cc]

because it was too obvious, why would she cant even predict it? She didn't even show many hesitation in deciding to agree or setting any boundaries for harassment

agree that is was inherently reason enough, but still not enough to convince me.

You make it sound like she was supposed to break through fourth walls and be aware of the game intent. How can she predict such hentai logic that she will be completely corrupted? And like I said, she doesn't know who's culprit in the frist place.

It's a blackmail, she doesn't have much choice or power to impose any conditions in a situation like this. But the resistance exists in the scenes almost to the very end.
In the second path, the boundaries for harassment exists until sergeant starts blackmailing her directly though.

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

Who knows, maybe he'll still do it. What I'd really like to see him translate would be the new trial for Big Breat Party NTR. It seems to be pretty sizable.

No point in wasting mtl work on a TRIAL version honestly. Since takeda hiromitsu is one of my favourite artists out there, I would rather wait for the final product before testing the goods. He even said that there's still some cgs and va's to be done, so we might expect it around the end of Q4 , or early 2024 Q1.

 

[ZBYToshiro]

You make it sound like she was supposed to break through fourth walls and be aware of the game intent. How can she predict such hentai logic that she will be completely corrupted? And like I said, she doesn't know who's culprit in the frist place.

It's a blackmail, she doesn't have much choice or power to impose any conditions in a situation like this. But the resistance exists in the scenes almost to the very end.
In the second path, the boundaries for harassment exists until sergeant starts blackmailing her directly though.

its not just hentai logic, if he wanted to enjoy her body for a long time, then of course he would have to delay the investigation as long as possible? She doesn't have much choice, but she probably have some. How about TRY to resolutely set conditions or request more time to think thoroughly?