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misternotathrowaway

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dude i hope you can continue but you need learn more open patreon or like site and open post here i hope we can support you
good job bro keep going
Here's v0.02 actually, please let me know what you think!
2 more CGs and many, many fixes. Still figuring out some plugins, so expect it to be quite buggy.




Been very busy lately. I may consider opening up a Patreon if life gets less busy haha. So maybe later for that.
 
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bucefala

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Let me ask you a question then, why don't you connect with the FMC?

I'll give you a hypothetical scenario, say a husband and wife got married straight out of high school and she was a very reserved and shy person and went along with the marriage because she had gone through her life putting others first, and having difficulty saying no to people.

She finds herself in an unhappy marriage, and finds herself asking if this is all there is to her life?

Then outta nowhere here comes a blonde haired, tanned, buff dude whose attentions makes her feels things she hasn't felt before, things she's only heard about other people feeling in movies or on tv.

She's barely known romance before, but at the same time, she is married so she's torn. The fundamental question though is - should she stay in a marriage she's unhappy in? Is it fair to herself? Is it fair to the husband/MMC? Should they have children who'd be in an unhappy home?

Her whole life had looked planned and miserable up until blonde NTR guy appeared and began to open her eyes (and legs.)

As she gets corrupted, she enjoys everything in her life more besides just the sex, meals, socializing, exercising, caring about her appearance again, she learns or rediscovers confidence, she's happier with every passing day.


Now take all of that, and put it up against vanilla MC guy who just wants everything to stay exactly the same forever, his wife is miserable in the marriage but she's too polite and reserved to ever say anything.

If MC were to win in this scenario, the FMC would lose, their future children would lose, the NTR guy would lose, and the audience/us would lose.

I'd really like to do a much longer essay or maybe youtube video about the topic because I get the feeling a lot of people who aren't into NTR might like it if they just changed their perspective. If you approach NTR focused on the MMC's thoughts and feelings, you're going to have a bad time and doing it completely wrong. If you approach NTR focused on the woman's thoughts and feelings, you'll have a really really good time. I mean her thoughts are way sexier than the MMC's anyway, and only get sexier as the story goes on.

After all it's the woman who has the real development in any NTR story, the husband is just a supporting character, and if people would stop (god I hate this term) self-inserting, and especially self-inserting into the wrong character, they'd have a much better time.
People like you exemplify pefectly how stupid human reasoning can be. Ntr is not just a woman breaking up with her husband because she lost feeling for him and gained feeling for another. Its also cheating, which means she still maintains and is in a relationship with her husband whilst dating and fucking the other guy. Couples that get together by cheating never last, as they are built on a foundation of human selfishness and uncaring for another's suffering. Not only that, the choices we make not only reveal us, but also change us. So the woman cheating on her man, being disloyal, through sheer severity of action and lack of guilt change her into a worse person, it makes her scummier. The man also is disguisting, having sexual and romantic relations with another's wife without first asking her to break up and divorce if she's interested in him and wanting to see if they can find happiness together.

There never will be a romance story between 2 horrible people. Plain and simple. Ntr isnt a love story if you look through someone else's perspective. Its pure disguisting betrayal. Its not breaking up, its lying and being disloyal and hurting someone irreversably and stringing along and benefitting from the security of a stable relationship with the person you are shitting on. You can like and enjoy ntr, but dont twist it all up. There is nothing pretty or heartwarming about it.
 

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People like you exemplify pefectly how stupid human reasoning can be. Ntr is not just a woman breaking up with her husband because she lost feeling for him and gained feeling for another. Its also cheating, which means she still maintains and is in a relationship with her husband whilst dating and fucking the other guy. Couples that get together by cheating never last, as they are built on a foundation of human selfishness and uncaring for another's suffering. Not only that, the choices we make not only reveal us, but also change us. So the woman cheating on her man, being disloyal, through sheer severity of action and lack of guilt change her into a worse person, it makes her scummier. The man also is disguisting, having sexual and romantic relations with another's wife without first asking her to break up and divorce if she's interested in him and wanting to see if they can find happiness together.

There never will be a romance story between 2 horrible people. Plain and simple. Ntr isnt a love story if you look through someone else's perspective. Its pure disguisting betrayal. Its not breaking up, its lying and being disloyal and hurting someone irreversably and stringing along and benefitting from the security of a stable relationship with the person you are shitting on. You can like and enjoy ntr, but dont twist it all up. There is nothing pretty or heartwarming about it.
This is what I talk about when I say that it depends on each one interpretation... I mean, here we are talking primarily about something fictional, and different NTR stories that can be made for games or things like that... In that sense, I don't really agree with what you say about “Its pure disguisting betrayal. Its not breaking up, its lying and being disloyal and hurting someone irreversably and stringing along and benefitting from the security of a stable relationship with the person you are shitting on”... That doesn't necessarily have to be so at all... It depends a lot on the perspective in which you see it, you know? For example, I mentioned it before but I prefer games where the NTR is treated in a comical way... For example “my girlfriend advanced to the dancer class and she buffs everyone” where NTR happens all the time, but I think the way it's handled is amazing because it's given a lot of humorous touch... Though I don't like games like “Lovelorn sanatorium” for example, because there the whole game is based on constant parody... I like that there is at least some seriousness, so we feel something for the characters, but I don't like at all that it's something super cruel where we feel bad and things like that... That's the reason why I personally don't like "Dark Hero Party"
If you like that kind of NTR, that's fine... But it's just subject to one's consideration... In the end they are different experiences
 

Kaitol

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Unhinged rant about something meaningless in a thread about porn games
"RAAAH, I am the final authority and arbiter on what is good and possible in reality, you stupid peons! Simply because I PERSONALLY don't like thinking about this, it's impossible! Even though we're supposed to be talking about FICTIONAL PORN GAMES, where you can write whatever the fuck you want, and the fact that it has also doubtless happened in real life countless times I'm going to rant and throw around personal insults! RAAAAH"

You absolute clownshoe'd buffoon. Do you think everybody in the history of the world has truly, deeply, loved their spouse and been in a position to leave them, even if they wanted to, even today? What the fuck do you think those people do for affection and love? Ever heard of a mistress? Put a little time and effort into thinking about something before you go calling other people stupid during a kneejerk rant. Human relationships aren't some binary thing you can make blanket black-and-white statements about and look like anything other than a childish fool. Go touch some grass.
 
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bucefala

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Are those the situations typically in ntr media, dumbass? Its almost always a decent guy thats not good in bed, or a good guy but a pushover untill its too late. We arent talking about forced marriage.

In all actual situations presented in ntr media and the ones that exist in real life, people do have the possibility to leave their spouse. They dont do it cause its inconvenient and they dont want to lose the benefits and security of a stable relationship until they are confident they would be better off with the other guy, aka after a hell of a lot of fucking. Thats evil, plain and simple. If you are a decent human being and start to lose feeling for your partner and have feeling for someone else, leave the current relationship before sexual relations with the new prospect. Its a gamble, but that's the non shitty thing to do.
 

zebucetiva

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Come on, guys. We are heading to 700 thread pages, I know you guys are new here and are eager to talk about it, but let's keep it to recommendations and other type of discussion.
We already had this discussion one hundred times, maybe it was funny 5 years ago, but now? I don't think so. This thread is 7 years old, there's nothing new about definitions that you can bring to the table. It's just annoying.
 

Animefan_09

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Ok just saw this hilarious manga: basically when the fat ntr ojisan decides to use his prowess for xD
 
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Enlight432

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This is what I talk about when I say that it depends on each one interpretation... I mean, here we are talking primarily about something fictional, and different NTR stories that can be made for games or things like that... In that sense, I don't really agree with what you say about “Its pure disguisting betrayal. Its not breaking up, its lying and being disloyal and hurting someone irreversably and stringing along and benefitting from the security of a stable relationship with the person you are shitting on”... That doesn't necessarily have to be so at all... It depends a lot on the perspective in which you see it, you know? For example, I mentioned it before but I prefer games where the NTR is treated in a comical way... For example “my girlfriend advanced to the dancer class and she buffs everyone” where NTR happens all the time, but I think the way it's handled is amazing because it's given a lot of humorous touch... Though I don't like games like “Lovelorn sanatorium” for example, because there the whole game is based on constant parody... I like that there is at least some seriousness, so we feel something for the characters, but I don't like at all that it's something super cruel where we feel bad and things like that... That's the reason why I personally don't like "Dark Hero Party"
If you like that kind of NTR, that's fine... But it's just subject to one's consideration... In the end they are different experiences
You talked about being cruel
yesterday I thought I would enjoy any heavy NTR, but when I started reading Ingoshima (manga) last night, I was completely traumatized (a twitter word meaning psychological trauma).
I don't know what's going on, sometimes i enjoy heavy NTR a lot, that is, I enjoy it 1000 times more than vanilla, but sometimes it traumatizes me !!!
I have to change the viewing angle so that I can enjoy every ntr so that i will never be traumatized (If someone understood this point of view, plz tell me, this traumatization happens mostly in manga and manhwa, for example, the scene of rape of LI in berserk was really cruel, but I'm sure some people were not upset by it at all, and I'm curious what was the point of view of those people? )
 

Kaitol

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I don't know what happened, but it seems the whole thread has been deleted
Unsure why you're saying it's been deleted, it's still right there? The big yellow text in the op may have something to do with it.
"Discussions of games by other developers not related to Fujino will be removed.
Users will now be threadbanned without prior notice due to excessive violations of this forum rule."


Seems a tad excessive to me. People weren't talking about other developers' games, they were talking about what game they'd like Fujino to make next, though I suppose that's still off-topic. I imagine it's locked while the mods do some cleanup.
 
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Sieglinnde

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Unsure why you're saying it's been deleted, it's still right there? The big yellow text in the op may have something to do with it.
Yeah I searched the thread and it didn't appear nowhere, but then I started to search in the "latest updates" and it appears there
 

Komdot

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What do you guys think of this game? Does anyone know of any NTR games with robots or androids? There's the one from Orange Piece but unfortunately no one post, not even MTL...
 

LordFrz

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Let me ask you a question then, why don't you connect with the FMC?

I'll give you a hypothetical scenario, say a husband and wife got married straight out of high school and she was a very reserved and shy person and went along with the marriage because she had gone through her life putting others first, and having difficulty saying no to people.

She finds herself in an unhappy marriage, and finds herself asking if this is all there is to her life?

Then outta nowhere here comes a blonde haired, tanned, buff dude whose attentions makes her feels things she hasn't felt before, things she's only heard about other people feeling in movies or on tv.

She's barely known romance before, but at the same time, she is married so she's torn. The fundamental question though is - should she stay in a marriage she's unhappy in? Is it fair to herself? Is it fair to the husband/MMC? Should they have children who'd be in an unhappy home?

Her whole life had looked planned and miserable up until blonde NTR guy appeared and began to open her eyes (and legs.)

As she gets corrupted, she enjoys everything in her life more besides just the sex, meals, socializing, exercising, caring about her appearance again, she learns or rediscovers confidence, she's happier with every passing day.


Now take all of that, and put it up against vanilla MC guy who just wants everything to stay exactly the same forever, his wife is miserable in the marriage but she's too polite and reserved to ever say anything.

If MC were to win in this scenario, the FMC would lose, their future children would lose, the NTR guy would lose, and the audience/us would lose.

I'd really like to do a much longer essay or maybe youtube video about the topic because I get the feeling a lot of people who aren't into NTR might like it if they just changed their perspective. If you approach NTR focused on the MMC's thoughts and feelings, you're going to have a bad time and doing it completely wrong. If you approach NTR focused on the woman's thoughts and feelings, you'll have a really really good time. I mean her thoughts are way sexier than the MMC's anyway, and only get sexier as the story goes on.

After all it's the woman who has the real development in any NTR story, the husband is just a supporting character, and if people would stop (god I hate this term) self-inserting, and especially self-inserting into the wrong character, they'd have a much better time.
Your youtube video will be filled with people telling you that if she is unhappy get a fucking divorce. Dont cheat because you are bored. I don't connect with either the guy or the girl. I am playing a game. I am also a dude, so I see things from the perspective of a guy. I am not going to sympathize with the girl because her marriage is unhappy, there are way to fix that that don't involve cheating.

But I am playing a NTR game, so I am expecting things to go bad. I play with the mindset that I want the guy to have his life turn to shit, its just what gets me off in these types of games. The girl need to slowly fall for the other guy, who is objectively worse. If like in your scenario the MC is a wet noodle and the girl is better off with the gigachad, that doesn't do it for me. I want some fat bastard to steal the girl from the perfect gigachad who the right for her. The guy loses, the girl loses, the only winner is the fat loser. That's what I like.

Now I don't want to disparage other people's fetishes. If you self insert as the MC, or the FMC, or whatever, you do you. But what you are describing is not really gonna be found in NTR. You would be better off looking at some vanilla tags where the girl is the MC and gets swept off her feet by a white knight kind of deal.
 

Animefan_09

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Unsure why you're saying it's been deleted, it's still right there? The big yellow text in the op may have something to do with it.
"Discussions of games by other developers not related to Fujino will be removed.
Users will now be threadbanned without prior notice due to excessive violations of this forum rule."


Seems a tad excessive to me. People weren't talking about other developers' games, they were talking about what game they'd like Fujino to make next, though I suppose that's still off-topic. I imagine it's locked while the mods do some cleanup.
Yeah, people were talking about Fujino, hell most of the discussion wasn't even about future games or event what could happen next, but about what has already happened in the game.

I hope they unlock it tomorrow, even if there is no update released.
 
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