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[BBC God]

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Why does she only have armor covering 1 tit?

 

[Gamesstar]

The thing is, ntr is best enjoyed as its own main and dedicated path. Putting it as a sub plot of a narrative rarely works. If youre looking for ntr references, your best bet is reading through ntr mangas and watching hentai /jav videos.

Im a big fan of Takeda Hiromitsu , you should check some of their works. Here's a link if you need it:

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There are more good ntr mangas out there, feel free to ask if you're looking for more.

There are some gripes that I have when it comes to ntr plot that you should think about :
- the part where the Bull sometimes give the heroine to a gangbang ntr route.I understand the reason behind it but It lessens the effect of the plot imo. Feel free to do it if you wish, it's just my own preference and it wont really deter me.

- following up the comment above, It's better if the heroine gets secretly pregnant by the bull after marrying the cuck. If the cuck is married, theyre still together and still having a strong affair with the bull. That's a better ending than making the heroine a town bicycle.

- mind control and hypnotism is mostly bad in ntr... but, it CAN work, if it's a slow, gradual accumulation. It should be convincing and well-written as well.

Anyway, good luck on your game.

Thanks for the reply.
My original idea was is a sub plot where Mc helps his friend to get his crush. But his crush likes someone else. That's one route.
There will be 2 more, but I am not sure about the cuck route..
But there will be a route where Mc cucks another guy.

 

[Leo D. Marstone]

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Too much bush but let's not start this discussion. It is a presonal preference.

The bush enjoyers are rabid I tell you.

Why does she only have armor covering 1 tit?

+2 on mobility of course

 

[Gamesstar]

Be careful with just sprinkling ntr. As someone who really likes ntr, but can enjoy pure harem games as well, I kinda dislike games that dont commit to either side. Usually its better to either go full ntr or not at all.

Vanilla enjoyers will see the ntr tag and flee, and ntr enjoyers will find out the ntr content is lacking and leave.

Dont get me wrong, there are games that strike a balance (sexbot, struggle with sin..) and are still successful, but they are pretty rare. In the end I am unsure of exactly the type of game you want to make, so take the advice with a hint of salt.

My game is not an full ntr game because I don't know much about it, but there will routes for it. I am not forcing ntr in my game, it's actually for the story reasons.

 

[Gamesstar]

If you yourself aren't into NTR and you are just adding it because it's popular you are probably not going to make NTR that NTR people like.

That description would be more in line with BSS. Where the guy has a one sided crush on the girl and feels betrayed when the girl gets with someone else.

Like you've said I am not into ntr, but my story requires some elements because of that I thought adding separate ntr routes will be good, but it's not the main focus of the game.

 

[notagooduser]

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[kekrince]

Too much bush but let's not start this discussion. It is a presonal preference.

The bush enjoyers are rabid I tell you.

The dev really likes his bushes, but you can always turn it off if you aren't into that.

 

[cIoseopenbrutal]

My original idea was is a sub plot where Mc helps his friend to get his crush. But his crush likes someone else. That's one route.

That's ok I guess. If it's just there as a filler of the story.

There will be 2 more, but I am not sure about the cuck route..

Cuck route huh, you mean cuckoldry/netorase? It's mostly for masochistic people. Very different from netorare.

But there will be a route where Mc cucks another guy.

Ah, netori. Good choice for a mc route in a non-focused ntr game.

 

[Agglutinant]

Be careful with just sprinkling ntr. As someone who really likes ntr, but can enjoy pure harem games as well, I kinda dislike games that dont commit to either side. Usually its better to either go full ntr or not at all.

Vanilla enjoyers will see the ntr tag and flee, and ntr enjoyers will find out the ntr content is lacking and leave.

Dont get me wrong, there are games that strike a balance (sexbot, struggle with sin..) and are still successful, but they are pretty rare. In the end I am unsure of exactly the type of game you want to make, so take the advice with a hint of salt.

Couldn't agree more. Too many Western Game add NTR for barely 2-3 scenes with little if any much impact.

For NTR enjoyers it's a waste of time. But even worse, for NTR haters, it's a red flag and it can "ruin" your game.

As for an example, for me "The male mc has a crush or love towards the female, but she likes another man and she dates or has sex with him" is barely NTR since the MC is not in a relationship with the female (= I couldn't care less).

But yeah I know, for some people just having a female having sex with another character than the MC is NTR so lol

So sorry, since it doesn't interest me I haven't a recommandation. But your example actually immediatly made me think of the X-Men, with Logan, Scott and Jean lol

Anyway, good luck for your game

 

[Leo D. Marstone]

The dev really likes his bushes, but you can always turn it off if you aren't into that.

Thanks for the response. Maybe I will try the game out then.

There was also a RPGM game which I don't find anymore here on F95.
Premise was that it was some sort of isekai. Basically AV found its way into the fantasy world and you played a swordswoman that fell into debauchery more and more.
Loved the artstyle but they all had a massive bush. I don't mind pubic hair but the ladys in this game had a jungle and armpit hair.
Half the thread of this game was bush vs no bush.

Anyway I drift off.
Thanks again.

 

[SlidingSubject]

Premise was that it was some sort of isekai. Basically AV found its way into the fantasy world and you played a swordswoman that fell into debauchery more and more.

This one?

 

[desmosome]

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Bros, what do they call this standing leg spread pose? JAV translations calls it, bowlegged, or "crab crotch" lol. But I'm wondering if there is a specific japanese term for it. I'm not talking about that other pose with similar legs, but with arms doing the silly pointing towards crotch thing.

 

[desmosome]

Be careful with just sprinkling ntr. As someone who really likes ntr, but can enjoy pure harem games as well, I kinda dislike games that dont commit to either side. Usually its better to either go full ntr or not at all.

Vanilla enjoyers will see the ntr tag and flee, and ntr enjoyers will find out the ntr content is lacking and leave.

Dont get me wrong, there are games that strike a balance (sexbot, struggle with sin..) and are still successful, but they are pretty rare. In the end I am unsure of exactly the type of game you want to make, so take the advice with a hint of salt.

The issue with sprinkled NTR is mostly because there is no flow or progression to the NTR. Usually, they just add individual scenes without the build up or tension. And in a typical harem/romance game, it rarely goes for the hard NTR because sprinkled NTR needs to still kind of fit the story and characters, and the MC is probably not written as a cuck. So it's usually just some sharing/netorase thing.

In fact, even in games that have 50/50 split between NTR and non-NTR, it very often leads to the NTR side being some form of netorase because the agency of player choice in enabling or preventing the NTR gets conflated with the MC's own agency which means the MC is often diliberately pursuing getting cucked, and even more so when it's strictly male MC POV scenes.

As someone who can play a wide variety of genres, I generally adopt a "mode" when playing porn games. If it's NTR, I want to see corruption, betrayal, and loss. If it's some power fantasy harem, I want that power fantasy and if possible, an evil route. If it's a story based game that is nuanced, with complex characters and motivations, then my expectations for the writing skyrockets and I'm no longer in a simple fap mode.

 

[kotfpp]

Like you've said I am not into ntr, but my story requires some elements because of that I thought adding separate ntr routes will be good, but it's not the main focus of the game.

Probably shouldn't bother if this is the case. People who hate it really hate it even if it's optional, and people who like it seem to be sick of half-hearted approaches to it.

 

[desmosome]

My game is not an full ntr game because I don't know much about it, but there will routes for it. I am not forcing ntr in my game, it's actually for the story reasons.

If you have a certain story in mind, go for it. I appreciate any dev that doesn't compromise on their vision. But just know that it will probably lead to drama and butthurt in your game thread. And for many reasons stated in the last few pages, hardcore NTR fans might not even play it (like the MC helping his friend get laid is not NTR at all, and also not netorare if MC wants to share his girls or pimp them out ).

So you could draw in some of the softer netorase enjoyers if you go for sharing rather than betrayal/cheating, and perhaps some drama/conflict/nuance enjoyers IF you are a great writer that doesn't just dish out fetishes for the sake of fapping to fetishes, but you also have a lot to lose for little gain if you mess it up.

 

[anonsuit]

What kinda gameplay are you hoping to get it for me it was good but lack of NTR mystery was bad because I didn’t get to go look for it and that what makes it for fun

if the game has map walking then something should happen while you walk. either the walks are very short if they are uninteresting, or the scene moves from place to place and the map changes as you do the tasks so that things happen as you move around. but if what you are going is movement with nothing happening to a VN scene, then back to moving. you are not really doing much with the gameplay.

 

[anonsuit]

Hello guys, I need some help about ntr. I don't know much about ntr, but I am planning to add scenes for my game. I am looking for some movies, tv shows from any countries or language and anime's about ntr. I am trying to get some inspiration for my game. I am more interested in ntr like,

The male mc has a crush or love towards the female, but she likes another man and she dates or has sex with him.
If you can give me some recommendation, I'll be grateful
Thank you.

NTR is more about loss. in principle is a tragedy. sometimes comes from that sense of entitlement that people have towards others.

my dog is loyal to me.
my wife loves me
my mom coddles me.
my best friend is always behind me.
my country wants what is best for me.

when that entitlement gets taken away by circumstances is when you get a feeling of something being taken away while you were asleep.

my dog left my house because the neighbor kept giving it treats.
my wife was just pretending to be happy to hide her dissatisfaction, and i see it know that some one satisfies her.
my mom found a new guy and her attention is on him not on me, she wanted someone to coddle not to coddle me.
someone poisoned the relationship with my best friend.
my country decided that what was best for me was to rot in a cell.

NTR is as simple as
hey buddy lets meet up at the gas station at 6:00PM
sure man lets go!

you stand on the gas station and call him: what happened man its 7:00PM
Im sorry bud, X picked me up to his party I could not hear the phone sorry I missed the time.

then they make another day and the friends fails again. when you look for him you find him drugged at X's party. X tells you to fuck off as they are best friends now. and you loose a friend.

NTR without sex.

using your example

The male mc has a crush or love towards the female, but she likes another man and she dates or has sex with him.
If you can give me some recommendation, I'll be grateful
Thank you.

• MC and female have a deep relationship. MC has a crush and female always indulges him whenever he proposes an outing. they watch the stars/fireworks/ go to abandoned houses, play videogames whatever....
• another starts taking her away (through blackmail, plain romance, or a good dicking, or any other viable method)
• MC also finds himself in circumstances that keep him away from her. a trip, a mystery, a promise, a debt.
• she begins ignoring the outings. canceling plans, and making excuses. Basically altering her relationship with MC.
• MC finds out and reacts according to his personality.

 

[anonsuit]

Too much bush but let's not start this discussion. It is a presonal preference.

The bush enjoyers are rabid I tell you.


+2 on mobility of course

I used to hate bushes but what can I say. it grew on me.

 

[Knight6797]

Like you've said I am not into ntr, but my story requires some elements because of that I thought adding separate ntr routes will be good, but it's not the main focus of the game.

It's fine to do that, just note that you should add these elements if you yourself really really want that. There are people in both crowds (non-ntr and ntr) which are extremely obnoxious towards developers so u should really just do what u personally believe is best for ur game and not let others influence you on that part. That's just my two cents on it.

 

[Catapo]

NTR is more about loss. in principle is a tragedy. sometimes comes from that sense of entitlement that people have towards others.

my dog is loyal to me.
my wife loves me
my mom coddles me.
my best friend is always behind me.
my country wants what is best for me.

when that entitlement gets taken away by circumstances is when you get a feeling of something being taken away while you were asleep.

my dog left my house because the neighbor kept giving it treats.
my wife was just pretending to be happy to hide her dissatisfaction, and i see it know that some one satisfies her.
my mom found a new guy and her attention is on him not on me, she wanted someone to coddle not to coddle me.
someone poisoned the relationship with my best friend.
my country decided that what was best for me was to rot in a cell.

NTR is as simple as
hey buddy lets meet up at the gas station at 6:00PM
sure man lets go!

you stand on the gas station and call him: what happened man its 7:00PM
Im sorry bud, X picked me up to his party I could not hear the phone sorry I missed the time.

then they make another day and the friends fails again. when you look for him you find him drugged at X's party. X tells you to fuck off as they are best friends now. and you loose a friend.

NTR without sex.

using your example

• MC and female have a deep relationship. MC has a crush and female always indulges him whenever he proposes an outing. they watch the stars/fireworks/ go to abandoned houses, play videogames whatever....
• another starts taking her away (through blackmail, plain romance, or a good dicking, or any other viable method)
• MC also finds himself in circumstances that keep him away from her. a trip, a mystery, a promise, a debt.
• she begins ignoring the outings. canceling plans, and making excuses. Basically altering her relationship with MC.
• MC finds out and reacts according to his personality.

The whole post is actually a very good explaination on how NTR can work through a feeling of betrayal even without a sexual relationship.

That aside a bestiality reverse NTR where another woman tries to "steal" the female MCs dog would be exactly the kind of unique premise that I would download no questions asked