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LordFrz

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Nebel Geister Jager Dev just released a Chinese only development demo of their upcoming Priest NTR game. They are planning to release the demo soon with a Japanese and English translation. If I remember right, you have a priest sister (not blood related) that has been afflicted with succubus curse so she needs to satisfy her cursed sexual hunger.

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(Ci-en trial page. Needs to be subscribed to him to download, costs 500 yen)

(Ci-en page that has more info on the game. There is a native English translated section on all of his articles.)

(Dlsite preview page.)
I hope its more like the game he did before nebel, I loved Spirit Squeezing Devil, but nebel was god awful. Thx for the links.
 

Nick_1357

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Hell yeah, loved their previous game, can't wait for this one. Good to see they took into consideration their fail with Nebels combat gameplay. I'm not really happy about another succubus curse NTR but I'll wait for the game before drawing conclusions.
Yeah I also think the ideas Nebel had was pretty hot ("Fluids inside her" status screen was awesome.) I just kinda didn't like how overly complex the game is which turned me off when I started playing. Mind you I don't have problems playing an actual RPG with good hentai slapped onto it, Magical Girl Celesphonia and its Chinese mod was amazingly lewd even if it doesnt have NTR elements (I came buckets). I spent like 40 hours on the Chinese mod and 20 on vanilla grinding materials to min max my build lmao.
 

blablablagivemethemoney

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As always it depends. Your mom with your dad is not NTR, but her getting nailed by your bully is. It could also not be NTR, just depends on how it's presented and if it creates that feeling of anxiety NTR is trying to elicit. And what works for me might not work for you. So many games I see praised here I find complete dog shit. And many times hated games turn out really good to me.
NOOOOO you have to have 18 different bulls each representing a different trope, in the process spreading out your workload and decreasing the nuance of each character until they're literally just their core archetype, and the route for each bull is short, superficial and shit!!!
 

LordFrz

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That is another way of saying 'loss' which was my point. Anyways really admirable attempt but...

That character doesn't exist. Really can't exist. It's a contradiction.

"Mother who loves and cares for her son abandons and abuses her son".

What you end up with is a kid that just doesn't have a relationship with either of his parents, cause he hates them. That's sadly not super rare, and I don't think its NTR as in no way is it sexual. The kid isn't fapping listening to his mom getting banged, he is GONE at his friends house asking to be adopted away from his abusive house. Not even is he longing for a relationship, these people are absolutely happy with just not having their parents in their lives because they know they are toxic.

Now, the reason that your post could kinda sorta pass as an NTR scenario is because WE the player / reader of the work are projecting sexuality onto the mom, even if the protagonist in game isn't.

Which I think steers us near to a 'ludo narrative dissonance' conversation which is way too deep for porn games. I guess to not be too fancy I'd say it'd make for a poor NTR game/story as the character won't align with the player / reader of the work. And we got a lot of those. I was just playing a game linked in this thread, and the NTR is fucking awful its like 'oh hey random green hair chick i've literally never seen before sucking a cock' 'oh hey that random green hair chick is now banging some dude' its technically NTR but it's weak as hell.
No, I don't think that game is NTR at all. No loss there at all. Its just a voyeur game. And the scenes have waaaay too much text, lol. I don't need 17 pages of hearts and auuuaauaus. While some whore I don't even know the name of sucks a dick. lol

I think too many devs just know a surface level of what NTR is and thats why we end up with so much dog shit. The best NTR is made by devs who are actually into it themselves. If you don't care about the fetish you cant really make a good product in that fetish.

You don't need to have a relationship to be sexual for NTR. But it definitely makes it harder to establish that loss if its not. If the MC and girl are fucking, then its much easier to show that loss. But in the case that its more of an emotional loss than physical, it takes more work and a better understanding of NTR to establish that loss and create that feeling of anxiety in the player.

That is why bully NTR is a good way to do it. You create that feeling of hate for a character, then have that hated character take something from you. Or you use a character the objectively worse than the MC, some fat bastard got the hot girl instead of mc, that's BS, etc. More so if the player did everything correctly, and never lost a fight. But still loses the girl.
 

LordFrz

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NOOOOO you have to have 18 different bulls each representing a different trope, in the process spreading out your workload and decreasing the nuance of each character until they're literally just their core archetype, and the route for each bull is short, superficial and shit!!!
True, then you advertise that the game has 36 scenes. But each scene is just 1 static image, and each of the routes only has 2 scenes, that way you not only have lots of scenes, but also you hit every niche possible.

And also be sure to let everybody know you have a vanila route, that has 0 scenes and just a black screen that says, "you lived happily ever after".
 

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That is another way of saying 'loss' which was my point. Anyways really admirable attempt but...

That character doesn't exist. Really can't exist. It's a contradiction.

"Mother who loves and cares for her son abandons and abuses her son".

What you end up with is a kid that just doesn't have a relationship with either of his parents, cause he hates them. That's sadly not super rare, and I don't think its NTR as in no way is it sexual. The kid isn't fapping listening to his mom getting banged, he is GONE at his friends house asking to be adopted away from his abusive house. Not even is he longing for a relationship, these people are absolutely happy with just not having their parents in their lives because they know they are toxic.

Now, the reason that your post could kinda sorta pass as an NTR scenario is because WE the player / reader of the work are projecting sexuality onto the mom, even if the protagonist in game isn't.

Which I think steers us near to a 'ludo narrative dissonance' conversation which is way too deep for porn games. I guess to not be too fancy I'd say it'd make for a poor NTR game/story as the character won't align with the player / reader of the work. And we got a lot of those. I was just playing a game linked in this thread, and the NTR is fucking awful its like 'oh hey random green hair chick i've literally never seen before sucking a cock' 'oh hey that random green hair chick is now banging some dude' its technically NTR but it's weak as hell.
The reason it follows NTR progression is the corruption arc that is implied when the mother changes to the worse throughout the story. It's no different than a lover getting corrupted and talking shit about her previous bf. Instead of losing a lover, the guy lost his caring mother. I don't know why you emphasize loss, and even support losing a dog as NTR lol, but don't extend it to losing a familial bond without sexual undertones.

"A mother who loves and cares for her son, over the course of the story, turns into a mind broken NTR heroine due to abusive father's training and abandons son at the end." That's the story I was getting at. How is that any different from the standard mother NTR scenario, except the antagonist is the father here?

Bringing up realism is pointless in NTR since the often tropey implementation of the fetish is intentionally unrealistic and extremely cynical in it's view of women and relationships.
 
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Voilsh

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Nebel Geister Jager Dev just released a Chinese only development demo of their upcoming Priest NTR game. They are planning to release the demo soon with a Japanese and English translation. If I remember right, you have a priest sister (not blood related) that has been afflicted with succubus curse so she needs to satisfy her cursed sexual hunger.

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(Ci-en trial page. Needs to be subscribed to him to download, costs 500 yen)

(Ci-en page that has more info on the game. There is a native English translated section on all of his articles.)

(Dlsite preview page.)
The design is nice but I wish he went for a feisty personality again, that was the best thing about Nebel, the girl was pretty hot whenever she served the netori while angry (at the start).
 

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Yeah I also think the ideas Nebel had was pretty hot ("Fluids inside her" status screen was awesome.) I just kinda didn't like how overly complex the game is which turned me off when I started playing.
Yeah, can't blame anyone for disliking Nebel for this. I loved the NTR mechanics and mission gameplay but combat was not great. All those catalyst and seal attacks were too tedious but at least they can be disregarded by using oneshot aoe skill. And progressing the story was very confusing without the guide.
But at least I give respect to the dev for putting in some cheats to make the gameplay less annoying.
 
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DFCT14

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Can someone recommend a good AI tool/site for ntr or rp in general? I've been wanting to try it for a while now but most of the ones I found that actually "work" (or that have images) are either paid or don't allow anything NSFW.
 

anonsuit

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There is no question about mom getting fucked by bully. And there is no question about people liking different games be it NTR or not. The last is a given.

The guy is writing about your cat or dog running away to your neighbour or your mom starting a new healthy relationship and cuddling with you less because of that, or your pal standing you up instead of having a couple of beers with you, which is a joke.



I'm not interested in dragging this permeasive NTR, dogs and cats discussion any more with you or you deranged followers, but be so kind to indulge me as there is one thing I'm curious about.

So in this post I'm citing you're responding to a person stating that FMC games are not netorare and clearly disagreeing, i.e. you consider FMC games to be Netorare.

Quite typically in FMC games with some boyfriend or husband in the background or as a side char you - roleplaying and controlling FMC - initiate interactions and cheating with bull(s) by taking some jobs, agreeing to some proposals etc. How does this initiative and decisions that you make yourself coexist in your head with the part of Netorare definition meaning 'to be taken'? By some external force and unbeknown to you ('sleeping' part, if this etimology part is correct). With cats and dogs at least there is that external force (by definition and logic, something that you don't want to lose can be taken from you only by external force with it's own agenda, e.g. neighbour) taking them away with treats.
sure first some clarifications. I do not have followers. i am not an influencer. if you see some likes on my posts it is problably just people that agree with me. if i had followers the post someone made on another tread calling me a creep for daring to ask if the developer was a woman would have had more than 1 report :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: but there it is that post with 1 repost insulting me to my face. anyways moving on.

what you loose on the female MC games, happens to the woman usually they are corruption focused and what is lost is dignity.

just like those hentai images where a man has their penis size compared to another. it is a netorare that is not about fucking other people is about loosing your dignity. in one case is the woman loosing her self respect and falling into corruption. on the other case is the man loosing his status as masculine and his partner in the process but the focus is on the man since those dick comparison images are usually POV ones.

also categorically since the partner that appears in 1 page is still part of the narrative techically is NTR. just like I have read many manga tagged as bestiallity and just happen to have a dog fucking a girl in the tiniest corner of a montage page just to show that she was tortured in brutal ways. but the sistem is like that tiny dog in the corner = bestiality tag. husband only appears in name NTR.

here is a recommendation for NTR with focus on the man, the first episodes focus mostly entirely on the man POV with several images of him just looking at a door. "Kanojo wa Nerawareteiru"

also to finish netorare can change inflection to mean diferent things

NETORASE the RASE inflection means to let be in this case let be taken something similar to swapping in english. of straight cuckolding.
NETORI the ri infrlection strenghten the meaning of taking. in this case is from the bad guy POV as he takes the girl. (there are some good reads of this genre)

NETORARE is the general term and it is asumed it includes the specific ones.
 

Matoga

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Guys lets go back to listing our favorite ntrs for this year of ever. These debates are getting boring.
Me whenever i see others mention their favourite NTR games this year and i get reminded that the game that would've been my favourite got abandoned a month before it's release:

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(Btw it's Between Dream and Reality :cry:)



Or i guess...the dev disappeared into thin air, which is...unfortunately...a trait many devs on Ci-en posess...
 
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Nick_1357

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You piqued my interest! Where can I find this mod, and if you don't mind, what does it add to the game to make it worthwhile?
Literally adds so much stuff. New lewd mechanics, costumes, new transformations, new lewd status effects and stuff. It feels like a definitive way to play lewd Magical Girl Celesphonia. Too much to list so I'll just DM you on where to get it as it's not NTR related.
 
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LURKzz

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Speaking of AI, is anyone here well versed in making NTR focused Presets/Jailbreaks? I'm in a reverse proxy that has unlimited access and context to Claude Opus and any of the GPT models, but all of the presets I've encountered aren't NTR focused...
 
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Komdot

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Guys lets go back to listing our favorite ntrs for this year of ever. These debates are getting boring.
I finally finished Mind Luda, and that's it, Cli Pick is NTR's goat, like the SFX are the only thing that can be criticized.
Perfect game, 11/10!

All his games are amazing, always with great developments and no one makes endings like him, he is the role model to make an NTR game.
 

Davaku

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Just gave RJ01168659 a go. What a total piece of garbage. It's a vanilla game with a few NTR scenes tacked on. It's also stupidly grindy.

Put about 3.5hrs into it before I hit a game over where town gets destroyed while I'm out adventuring. I assume I didn't get enough money fast enough? No clue. But in that 3hrs had 0 H scenes.

After that, I unlocked the gallery and it was trash. (From a NTR perspective) I'm pretty sure the NTR scenes and non NTR scenes share CG, the guys turn into blue shadows. (with skinny dicks) lol
I played it too only for the NTR scenes of the cat girl but only got the ones for the pink hair one.

It seems that you've got to see the first H scene with MC before the NTR starts, don't know if the game is broken but I couldn't find the MC events of the cat girl to get her first H scene, even after messing with variables using MTool. 1723171965380.png
And yes, in the process of trying to get the cat girl's NTR scenes, I increased all heroines affinity with the rivals to 10,000.

All of this just because I'm an idiot who likes to get H scenes in gameplay for the "roleplay" I suppose instead of using the gallery just like any normal person.
 
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