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[anonsuit]

the problem with drugs and blackmail is that those are themes that are layered.
with drugs you have things like: why do the person takes drugs, an the things like cravings, abstinence and dependency.
with blackmail is: why is this not reported as a crime? what happens if the secret is revealed that makes it worth preserving, and how valuable it is for the people involved.

writing good things with these answers takes more time than saying lol drugs make u horny!

 

[Pango_12]

Anyone know how the NTR is in this game:
https://f95zone.to/threads/super-dr...battle-in-history-v1-07-go-go-amakara.228216/
Is it just defeat scenes and prostitution?
There's also no 'multiple endings' tag, which tells me it probably wouldn't go all the way.

 

[Ivriktwo]

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Finished it. It is amazing how the game can make me read the story and care about the chars. Altough the corruption was not as good as i expected it was still very good compared with your regular NTR game out there. Solid story and gameplay. and the ending....... was good. it gives you a glimpse of the next game. For me is a solid 8.5/10. With a proper translation i would give it a 9

Copy paste3d my review from other forum

 

[cleanfeel]

Unfortunately, most adult game developers are just Python/Unity programmers who have entered this field.
To create a truly great adult game, we need a team consisting of a relationship psychologist, a writer, a programmer, and an artist, or the developer must have a good understanding of all four areas.

Or just someone who reads. It's not hard to copy good writing. Think Game of Thrones. That scene with Sansa Stark getting her pussy ravaged by that nasty torture guy (Ramsey Bolton) is one of the most fun scene. You already have the dynamic of a good few chapters of a game there.

Pretty looking naive girl is captured by her family's enemy. Ramsey Bolton would pretend to let his prisoners escape, only to catch them and thoroughly punish them afterwards. Reek could be re-purposed to be the love interest. Tone down the torture of Reek, add some gameplay elements where you can make choices to save both yourself and Sansa, and you have a pretty cute game.

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Another one: Ellie from The Last of Us Two. Flaming lesbian who thinks she's all tough. Looking to get revenge on another lesbian. Why not make Abby a man. He kills Joel. Ellie tries to takes revenge. She fails pathetically. Gets her lesbian pussy destroyed and humiliated. Plus that little girlfriend of hers is forced to sell her cunt as well. There's some fun ideas here of a lesbian being face fucked for the first time. As well as trying a "real cock" and getting the gay fucked out of her. Plenty of new ideas here with TLOU angle.

The list is endless. Just need to use the imagination a bit. So much to explore in that setting alone. And it doesn't even have to be post-apocalyptic. Make it historical if you will: 16th century. Where being a lesbian is illegal and they literally burn you. Blackmail, humiliation, etc

 

[Seven Soft]

I'd like to invite authors to think of their dream girl, their girlfriends, wife, etc. How would you as a bad guy get her to love you?

In real life, the true answer to this is to simply linger, without making any (sexual) advances. In the seldom chances the third guy gets to encounter the target girl, all he needs to do is present a flawless facade to her at every chance of interaction he gets (remember that prodding will make his facade far more susceptible to being perceived as flawed by her).

This works NOT because the third guy is conventionally incredibly attractive or masterfully suave (he is likely not). But purely because he is subjectively perceived by her as more flawless than her current boy, and accessible enough.

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EDIT: would also like to take this opportunity to ask for recommendations on an NTR VN/Game with minimal to no corruption plot. Where the heroine appears/portrayed to be, (to put it simply) latently adulterous. Some good example (that i can recall) of what i'm searching for is Girlfriend Tapes and Vulgar Reverie. Thanks.

EDIT 2: recommendations of VNs/games with a "netorase gone awry" plot is also welcome. Recently played Netorase Phone and i took a liking to the mannerisms of the FMC (and the direction its heading, i hope...). More specifically, i'm looking for plot elements such as breach of trust, where the FMC eventually starts having her own rendezvous behind cuck MC's back. Thanks.

 

[Reven23]

New ntr game in dlsite

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Got a link for this yet?

 

[anonsuit]

Finished it. It is amazing how the game can make me read the story and care about the chars. Altough the corruption was not as good as i expected it was still very good compared with your regular NTR game out there. Solid story and gameplay. and the ending....... was good. it gives you a glimpse of the next game. For me is a solid 8.5/10. With a proper translation i would give it a 9

Copy paste3d my review from other forum

Yeah, I am enjoying the game and the diferent points of view. certainly each character presented has a charm. I do have some critiques.

• is seems that non NTR interactions have low priority with a lot of them being fade to black.
• there is a bit of a plot hole with the knight girl and how she got hiptonized? that felt like a plot hole.
• the same thing happens with some scenes the MC does not witness, they are fade to black and no way of knowing what happened. ex: the first night luna spends with the demon filing the flask.
• overall crone is hot and iam playing the game because of her. it sucks because there are no scenes to compare with luna wich fades to black. it makes me go for the CG choice every time and then reload and pick the actual choice i would pick wich had ho CG ex: when the MC masturbates to chrone or luna.

I understand the game is NTR but if you give me a non NTR choice and it is a valid sex scene at least put some CG.

 

[Kulman]

Your words are also correct
While creativity is better than copying, it's possible to make great games by copying concepts (not the story) and characters (not their entire personality)

I decided to try out the games you recommended in Cleanfeel Recommendations today. I haven't played some of them yet.
One thing I didn't expect to see in the S Tier was Dark Hero Party
After reading some very harsh comments, I didn't play this game. From those comments, I concluded that both the main character's personality (weak, cowardly, stupid) and the love interests' personalities were very bad (they were heavily criticized in the comments). Don't get me wrong, I usually don't pay much attention to comments, but this game was different. They even say that its thread was once removed from f95 because of people's anger
But it seems I need to completely ignore the comments, because the characters' personalities, the story logic, and the writing must be very good for you to have placed it in the S Tier
I just wanted to say how misleading comments can be...

Dark hero party is a tough game. It evokes strong feelings and people deal with them in different ways. Some really enjoy it, some kinda lash out at characters.

Also that game is pretty old by now and for the time, it was THE ntr game. So for a lot of us, it does have that nostalgia feeling. Now when you already experienced a lot of other good ntr games, it might not hold up that much. I still think its pretty good, just need to have the stomach for it.

 

[Knight6797]

Dark hero party is a tough game. It evokes strong feelings and people deal with them in different ways. Some really enjoy it, some kinda lash out at characters.

Also that game is pretty old by now and for the time, it was THE ntr game. So for a lot of us, it does have that nostalgia feeling. Now when you already experienced a lot of other good ntr games, it might not hold up that much. I still think its pretty good, just need to have the stomach for it.

It's originality comes from not just applying simple porn logic, but playing out an actual tragic event happening with relatable characters. So instead of simple corruption where the girl just turns out to be a cock loving slut after getting fucked, this game is sinister and depicts despair and pain throughout it's story which creates something that elevates it from other stories. I personally don't like this type of NTR but I have to absolutely admit that the story telling in this game sets it apart from your usual NTR corruption game which is why I view it highly.

 

[LordFrz]

This is something I really liked that breaks every rule of what I normally like for NTR.

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(this is part 1 it has a part 2 that concludes it)

It's blackmail and rape. But the logic around it works for me. The girl beats up the bully, so the bully makes a fake website to blackmail the girl so that he will get her BFs parent fired. While still flimsy it has some logic to it in that going to the police wouldn't immediately solve the issue. The girl still a bit stupid could have asked the BF to clarify, which she does later after it was too late. This gets her doing sexual favors for the bully. Later the bully rapes her. But by that time she is decently corrupted already, and it escalates from there.

I think the big thing is the change from where she was at the start, gradually to the whore she becomes. It's not a cum whore right away. It's the contrast between start and finish. Righiouse girl who hates the bully to a prostitute who does whatever he says.

A lot of games will say at the beginning intro or description that the girl is a righteous defender of the weak or something, but never show it and set that up in the game. Just a few scenes to set that up, or to show she cares about the BF before you get into the corruption would help a lot in getting that NTR feel. (A quick sex scene with the MC doesn't do that for me)

Just an exception in how sometimes things I normally hate just come together to be something I like.

 

[cleanfeel]

Your words are also correct
While creativity is better than copying, it's possible to make great games by copying concepts (not the story) and characters (not their entire personality)

I decided to try out the games you recommended in Cleanfeel Recommendations today. I haven't played some of them yet.
One thing I didn't expect to see in the S Tier was Dark Hero Party
After reading some very harsh comments, I didn't play this game. From those comments, I concluded that both the main character's personality (weak, cowardly, stupid) and the love interests' personalities were very bad (they were heavily criticized in the comments). Don't get me wrong, I usually don't pay much attention to comments, but this game was different. They even say that its thread was once removed from f95 because of people's anger
But it seems I need to completely ignore the comments, because the characters' personalities, the story logic, and the writing must be very good for you to have placed it in the S Tier
I just wanted to say how misleading comments can be...

Meh. It's been a while so I don't remember. Yes the MC is a letdown. There is no element of choice in terms of getting the FMC stolen. The reason why I rated it S is because the relationship between FMC and the bad guy becomes one of love towards the end. The "corruption" was decent because FMC never sees how mistreated her companions are if I recall. She's hidden from all of it which made it more believable. I think MC was forced to shovel shit: that's it.

It's a iteration of the "coma" scenario that I thought was very novel and fun given its fantasy nature. FMC is very pretty. The bad guy and the FMC being very much a pair due to the plot and their powers in the game made it heart wrenching.

Not a perfect game, maybe overrated at this point. A to A+ for me thinking back. Definitely NOT a typical garbage NTR game.

 

[BilafBlayt]

This is something I really liked that breaks every rule of what I normally like for NTR.

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(this is part 1 it has a part 2 that concludes it)

It's blackmail and rape. But the logic around it works for me. The girl beats up the bully, so the bully makes a fake website to blackmail the girl so that he will get her BFs parent fired. While still flimsy it has some logic to it in that going to the police wouldn't immediately solve the issue. The girl still a bit stupid could have asked the BF to clarify, which she does later after it was too late. This gets her doing sexual favors for the bully. Later the bully rapes her. But by that time she is decently corrupted already, and it escalates from there.

I think the big thing is the change from where she was at the start, gradually to the whore she becomes. It's not a cum whore right away. It's the contrast between start and finish. Righiouse girl who hates the bully to a prostitute who does whatever he says.

A lot of games will say at the beginning intro or description that the girl is a righteous defender of the weak or something, but never show it and set that up in the game. Just a few scenes to set that up, or to show she cares about the BF before you get into the corruption would help a lot in getting that NTR feel. (A quick sex scene with the MC doesn't do that for me)

Just an exception in how sometimes things I normally hate just come together to be something I like.

Damn can't use Ex ehentai again (what the name btw)

 

[Kilometer Immorales]

New ntr game in dlsite

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need link

 

[Reven23]

need link

Hit me up when you find it. otomi and hentai-sharing don't have it yet. I don't know other sites that quickly releases new games

 

[redstiletti]

Based on experience, the most intense shock in the Netorare genre happens when no one expects it! It's like the first time we didn't know something called Netorare existed in adult media, and we didn't even know what it meant
But suddenly someone approaches FMC... your heart rate goes up... they touch it... you can't believe it, you think to yourself, "Is this even possible? This is impossible..." and it continues moment by moment
These things happen because you know nothing about the future, you didn't expect this at all, and it makes you freeze in place...

Right on. My first NTR experience from more than a decade ago is still a vivid memory. At the time, my stomach twisted itself into knots from excitement, and I forgot to eat or sleep for the next 2 days. After enjoying NTR games for so many years, the white hot intensity of emotion is no longer there, but I still to this day get a huge kick out of the genre.

 

[LordFrz]

Damn can't use Ex ehentai again (what the name btw)

[Carrot] Itsumo Boku o Mamotte Kureru Osananajimi ga Boku o Ijimeteita Yatsu to SEX Shimakutteita Ken Zenpen [English]

 

[Templar Studios]

And so I return to the darkness lurking in the F95 forums, the NTR thread hahaha. I finally released chapter 1 of the remake/rewrite of Azure NTR I was working on if you guys want to check it out. https://f95zone.to/threads/adventur...ld-v0-1-templar-studios.228285/#post-15042899

 

[8947289hkd]

ntr doesn't involve people outside of the relationship enough. like a guy has a girlfriend who he loves and thinks he's going to spend his life with but she's been cheating on him for years and her parents knew along with some of the friends. this sort of betrayal is always the most heavy hitting for me particularly if they can make the mom and your family involved in the betrayal where you're the odd one out.

the biggest issue with "drugs" is they're some magical brainwashing thing whereas in reality women just go fuck their drug dealer casually cheating on whoever. all they need to do is slightly peer pressure the woman through a friend and she'll be sucking on any substance they provide and most women will jump into the fire creating some sort of rationalization about why it's okay and hide it while enjoying doing drugs and having cheating sex.

 

[@$Z]

Nukomajin (fucking finally) posted a new update

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but I don't get, does it include new demo under paywall or he is going to make new demo in the future

 

[anonsuit]

Dark hero party is a tough game. It evokes strong feelings and people deal with them in different ways. Some really enjoy it, some kinda lash out at characters.

Also that game is pretty old by now and for the time, it was THE ntr game. So for a lot of us, it does have that nostalgia feeling. Now when you already experienced a lot of other good ntr games, it might not hold up that much. I still think its pretty good, just need to have the stomach for it.

I was not a fan of that game, but I have never been a fan of grinding in RPG and hard fights for the sake of hardness. I literally had to cheat on that game to get the ending, no way i am grinding LVLs or figuring the right order of executing comands to win an RPG battle.

the only game whose battle system I have tolerated and had optional hardness was SEQUEL that game is perfect in balancing the amount of bullshit difficulty i am wiling to tolerate from an RPG. a lot of the hard fights are optional, most of the game is balanced so you do not have to grind too much to get to the appropriate level. and certain skills are both powerful and the items are useful.

anyways I never liked RPG grind, probably why i never got into MMOs