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you literally need to run around all the fucking school every fucking ingame day to gather items to sell and to speak with the girls in hope for some event happend
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Mhhhmm indeed. Those kinds of overly grindy NTR games can be annoying :HideThePain: Especially when you just want to get to that sweet NTR action...But no you need to cook some random items first, or do some harvesting of vegetables in the forest, or return a book from the library, or some other such nonsensical stuff like that before you can even arrive at the spicy stuff :KEK:

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Knight6797

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Don't bother, it's shit: spend like 3+ hours, get only 5 vanilla scenes, there are some hints for possible NTR scenes but I don't get how to trigger them at all. Writing is shit - MC have literally 0 personality and strange plot progression (first scene for gyaru is already sex without any setup, and they are not even dating). Damn, vanilla supposed to be sweet, not some retarded "suddenly I can't stop the urge to touch her tits" bullshit. And the worst thing is the gameplay loop - you literally need to run around all the fucking school every fucking ingame day to gather items to sell and to speak with the girls in hope for some event happend. As I say, for 3+ hours there were only 5 scenes (2+2+1 for each girl), and most time you will be running around the school like a retard. Don't know where decent reviews are coming from.
Yea sometimes I wish devs would just think about what makes NTR exciting for most people, I have played these boring ass sandbox games with 0 personality girls and empty worlds, boring plots all year it's kind of crazy how so little devs really understand what made games in the past so great. But perhaps next year will be better, and afaik this game is supposed to drop this month too so maybe not all hope is lost.
 

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Hey guys, been interested in a scenario where a girl starting to show affection to another guy in romantic way without rape, blackmail and instant loss to a dick. The main point she still loves/likes/have feelings for MC, but struggling to make a final choice. Maybe somebody could suggest something.
 

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Hey guys, been interested in a scenario where a girl starting to show affection to another guy in romantic way without rape, blackmail and instant loss to a dick. The main point she still loves/likes/have feelings for MC, but struggling to make a final choice. Maybe somebody could suggest something.
light novel ¨when hikaru was on earth¨could be considered netori. since the MC is the one aproaching the girls is almost vanilla to be fair the MC does not try to steal the girls. it is just that he helps them and then they fall in love slowly. but some really take their time. i think a girl appeared in volume 1 and realized she was in love in volume eight and conffesed in volume 10. it was slow
 
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dreadread

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I tried searching for some NTR/Cheating IRL videos/discords, and man I don't know how I feel about those
Would also like to see some examples. You mean live action NTR JAVs?

I find most a bit cheesy. Seeing how most of these wild NTR situations would look like in real life is just a bit weird.
 

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Yea sometimes I wish devs would just think about what makes NTR exciting for most people, I have played these boring ass sandbox games with 0 personality girls and empty worlds, boring plots all year it's kind of crazy how so little devs really understand what made games in the past so great. But perhaps next year will be better, and afaik this game is supposed to drop this month too so maybe not all hope is lost.
Oh wow this game looks nice. Hope it doesn't get pushed back
 

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A question.
Does the way "villain" abuse a girl correlates with amount of pleasure you as a player get?

E.g.

Bully simply have a steamy sex with your sweetheart and she is into it
or
Bully have a steamy sex with your sweetheart while doing light bdsm like spanking and collar-leash and she is into it
or
Bully doing really brutal shit, your sweetheart is turned into total maso-slut and is into it.

So does the upping of degradation of a girl actually adds the ntr-effect?
 
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A question.
Does the way "villain" abuse a girl correlates with amount of pleasure you as a player get?

E.g.

Bully simply have a steamy sex with your sweetheart and she is into it
or
Bully have a steamy sex with your sweetheart while doing light bdsm like spanking and collar-leash and she is into it
or
Bully doing really brutal shit, your sweetheart is turned into total maso-slut and is into it.

So does the upping of degradation of a girl actually adds the ntr-effect?
Why does all the option have "into it" if your question has 'abuse' in it? Because for me, I enjoy it more if the FMC is not into it and is being forced in some way. Corruption being a part of it. It really won't be corruption if she is into it in the first place.
 
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Readerf2b

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Why does all the option have "into it" if your question has 'abuse' in it? Because for me, I enjoy it more if the FMC is not into it and is being forced in some way. Corruption being a part of it. It really won't be corruption if she is into it in the first place.
I mean just how much abusing FMC impacts you as a player on the same level of consent.
 

Readerf2b

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Yea sometimes I wish devs would just think about what makes NTR exciting for most people, I have played these boring ass sandbox games with 0 personality girls and empty worlds, boring plots all year it's kind of crazy how so little devs really understand what made games in the past so great. But perhaps next year will be better, and afaik this game is supposed to drop this month too so maybe not all hope is lost.
IDK, most people even in ntr genre prefere more scenes than plot, aren't they?
I mean, as I understand that on basic level you don't want a whole book sized personality building for a girl whose main purpose is get dicked a lot in front of you.
Usually its enough to have just a small backstory like "she is your childhood friend, she likes outdoor walks and cinema, she might have harboured a crush for you"
 

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guys how do i read this thread? is the front page last updated 2017 forreal or do newer games keep popping up there? i wanna see the top 10 ntr games up to date
 

Knight6797

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IDK, most people even in ntr genre prefere more scenes than plot, aren't they?
I mean, as I understand that on basic level you don't want a whole book sized personality building for a girl whose main purpose is get dicked a lot in front of you.
Usually its enough to have just a small backstory like "she is your childhood friend, she likes outdoor walks and cinema, she might have harboured a crush for you"
There needs to be at least some story to it, otherwise u could also just jerk off to images on rule34 imo. Character relations are important, this can be achieved not by a wall of text but key moments that exaggerate that (Boy Hero Ken is a good example, some routes of scars of summer too). Of course, that is just my opinion at the end of the day everyone has their own, but I feel like NTR just really starts to hit when character relations are established, otherwise it feels just like normal porn.
 

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There needs to be at least some story to it, otherwise u could also just jerk off to images on rule34 imo. Character relations are important, this can be achieved not by a wall of text but key moments that exaggerate that (Boy Hero Ken is a good example, some routes of scars of summer too). Of course, that is just my opinion at the end of the day everyone has their own, but I feel like NTR just really starts to hit when character relations are established, otherwise it feels just like normal porn.
Well, I mean, if you are a gamedev, just follow the harem anime stereotypes.
No need to build overly intricate personality, just a couple of activities, a favourite place, job, and a previous connection to MC is enough.
 

Senya_boy

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A question.
Does the way "villain" abuse a girl correlates with amount of pleasure you as a player get?

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So does the upping of degradation of a girl actually adds the ntr-effect?
If I'm understanding your question right, not really, personally. I mean, the exact method / style in which the guy works the girl over can obviously get into other kinks, and I have my own preferences on those, so they'll appeal to me more or less on that basis. But I don't feel like they directly impact how I feel about the NTR aspect of it.

The one thing I'll say there is I do feel like it can impact how much my suspension of disbelief needs to be pushed. Like, for example, if it's a more extreme result of a girl almost completely changing within a matter of days, it's easier for me to go "yeah sure that makes sense" if it was achieved by e.g. constant sexual orgasm torture / denial and forced mantras about her new role and pain when she expresses resistance, rather than just a good ol' hard dicking from some magically good cock.

Kinda related, jumping to the 'writing' discussion going on:

There needs to be at least some story to it, otherwise u could also just jerk off to images on rule34 imo. Character relations are important, this can be achieved not by a wall of text but key moments that exaggerate that (Boy Hero Ken is a good example, some routes of scars of summer too). Of course, that is just my opinion at the end of the day everyone has their own, but I feel like NTR just really starts to hit when character relations are established, otherwise it feels just like normal porn.
Yeah, I'm definitely with Knight here (and it seems like others as well). I've said this before, but a (the?) critical part of NTR to me is the girl being stolen, or in other words, the bonds of an existing relationship being at the very least warped, usually outright broken. You don't really get to appreciate that without having at least some understanding of what those bonds were like at the start. (Generalizing way out, this is because well-done contrast can make things incredibly erotic!)

Similarly, NTR doesn't *always* need to involve 'corruption' / a noticeable personality change in the girl, but it often does, and that too really requires having a baseline to contrast against.
 

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Hey guys, been interested in a scenario where a girl starting to show affection to another guy in romantic way without rape, blackmail and instant loss to a dick. The main point she still loves/likes/have feelings for MC, but struggling to make a final choice. Maybe somebody could suggest something.
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If I'm understanding your question right, not really, personally. I mean, the exact method / style in which the guy works the girl over can obviously get into other kinks, and I have my own preferences on those, so they'll appeal to me more or less on that basis. But I don't feel like they directly impact how I feel about the NTR aspect of it.
So, it doesn't correlate how much nasty things the antagonist subject the girl to?

I mean, its at least understandable that girl might switch MC to a better lover, but if she switches to a guy who take a morning piss down her gullet, isn't it multiplying the feeling of being NTRed?
So its like, for MC she was just a vanilla hand-holding GF but for a antagonist she is submissive cunt dripping masochist?
 

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So, it doesn't correlate how much nasty things the antagonist subject the girl to?

I mean, its at least understandable that girl might switch MC to a better lover, but if she switches to a guy who take a morning piss down her gullet, isn't it multiplying the feeling of being NTRed?
So its like, for MC she was just a vanilla hand-holding GF but for a antagonist she is submissive cunt dripping masochist?
Not at all, I don't agree with this either. The NTR feeling ends when it pushes too far past the girl doing stuff she would've done for the MC but for another person. I really dislike anything that devolves into the antagonist sharing the girl around specifically because of this, there's no feeling of loss if she was fine with any of it and she wasn't who you thought she was. It just becomes normal porn at that point and there's much better porn of whatever extreme fetish you're into out there than in any NTR game.
 
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crnisl

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I mean, its at least understandable that girl might switch MC to a better lover, but if she switches to a guy who take a morning piss down her gullet, isn't it multiplying the feeling of being NTRed?
It doesn't work mechanically, I guess. A well described scene of kissing/groping by the bull might give much stronger NTR feeling than a scene of cute gf eating shit of another guy.

The relationship is built on love and trust. Netorare is anti-relationship - it’s about breaking that love, not just betraying the cuck, but also the girl herself. When she betrays the love she shares, she betrays her own heart. Describing or hinting at her feelings in this context is essential. If we're only talking about physical acts with no emotional connection to break any longer, then it's not NTR - it’s just a porn.
 

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It doesn't work mechanically, I guess. A well described scene of kissing/groping by the bull might give much stronger NTR feeling than a scene of cute gf eating shit of another guy.

The relationship is built on love and trust. Netorare is anti-relationship - it’s about breaking that love, not just betraying the cuck, but also the girl herself. When she betrays the love she shares, she betrays her own heart. Describing or hinting at her feelings in this context is essential. If we're only talking about physical acts with no emotional connection to break any longer, then it's not NTR - it’s just a porn.
That is exactly what I was trying to say earlier too. If you take an "NTR" scene out of context, remove the text and have only the antagonist and the woman fucking each other it might aswell be normal porn/hentai. Context and character interactions is what makes NTR truly NTR. If you build a strong foundation and the girl is very committed to the MC, even stuff like just simply looking at her ass/tits, dropping nasty comments or being touchy can have an incredibly erotic effect, because it is something that is unacceptable in the eyes of the viewer to be doing that with the love interest/wife of someone else. To me this is what draws me into NTR in the first place.
 

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The NTR feeling ends when it pushes too far past the girl doing stuff she would've done for the MC but for another person.
Really? I mean, in many ntr games the girl is not even in a real relationship with MC, he just "late" to express his feelings or stuff like that. Or its not even a potential girlfriend, like his mom and sis.

Describing or hinting at her feelings in this context is essential. If we're only talking about physical acts with no emotional connection to break any longer, then it's not NTR - it’s just a porn.
Obviously feelings are important to buld the connection that you as a dev a going to exploit, but its essentially how absolute most games conclude - the feelings girl have had for MC are gone\twisted. Well sometimes its no longer ntr but a cuck ending, were girl is romantically involved with MC but gets dicking from antag on a regular schedule.
 
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