Recommending NTR, netorare, cuckold - resources, discussion, development

[Ivriktwo]

It's a great LN, but it gave no netori (and obviously not netorare) feel to me at all.
It's more of a harem drama romance.

really? for me it was almost like all the women were in love with hikaru but then the MC comes and takes them. if hikaru was still alive that would be a perfect netori. but i see your point. the LN was sweet. it made my sugar level double in my mind

 

[Otakusan94]

Brother, I can't answer your question, but you shouldn't feel out of place to ask something like that here. We're a pervert community but we're not bigots!

I am well aware there are a lot of cool people here, and honestly, in most cases I wouldn't bother caring about those who aren't.
But I am also so, SO tired nowadays, I would rather avoid picking fights online.

 

[swaglord]

I am well aware there are a lot of cool people here, and honestly, in most cases I wouldn't bother caring about those who aren't.
But I am also so, SO tired nowadays, I would rather avoid picking fights online.

I get it man, I hate how intolerant gamer communities have become. I hope you'll find what you're looking for.

 

[Readerf2b]

I don't see how that changes what I've said at all. BSS is its own separate thing but the same stuff applies even more. The MC has some idea of who the girl is because of how she presents and if she stays true to the idea in his head it makes sense that he'd feel loss because he didn't end up with her. If she ends up being a completely different person, why would he care?

OK, I still don't get it.

So for example, MC sees a girl as his vanilla girlfriend, girl is also into him and vanilla as of now (known from players omnipresence), but there is no confession "yet".
Antag gets into a game, coerce and corrupts girl into more and more depraved sex.
Did she ends up completely different person in your as a player view or not?
She is still same girl, who developed a depraved kinks (maybe she even had them but was to shy to acknowledge it to herself) and obviously right now is not into MC at least sexually (she may still harbour purely romantic feelings for him, or not)

Its just, absolute most ntr games end this way - the girl is a huge slut for antag, that she obviously wasn't at the start of the game.

 

[Readerf2b]

That's not much about what words were said between a girl and her beloved childhood-friend/son/brother. That's more about what she is.

There's a fitting quote from

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where MC's mother is getting gradually pressured by MC's friend.


Another fitting quote from 3d-comics

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, where MC's mom is coerced by his classmates.


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, where MC's mom is fucking with his bully who was beaten by MC, so that MC wouldn't get a criminal record.


Do you feel the vibe?

I still dont get it. Yeah, obviously MCs mother still stays his mother. But she is a slut for antag at the same time. So technically, showing her sluttier with more extreme kinks should add to the NTRness, no?

 

[kotfpp]

I agree with a lot of what you seem to be saying, but think I might have a slightly different take here. Strictly speaking, the way you phrase it, I do agree; if the girl was just hiding her 'true' nature all along, and jumped at the chance to act on it, then that's not NTR. It's like I said in some earlier post as to why I consider 'cheating' a different genre.

To me, though, what you get in a lot of NTR that hits this sort of thing isn't the reveal that the girl wasn't actually who she pretended to be; it's that who she is is *changed*, remolded, generally very much against her will (at least at the start). Taken to extremes, it basically ends up being a sort of 'death of self': despite the girl still being alive and well, the *person* she was can be irrevocably gone.

(As a side note, you see this sort of dynamic a ton in stuff that's more overtly within the 'brainwashing' type of genre, which honestly NTR shares more with in terms of vibes than I feel like some people would want to admit. From a rational / emotional point of view, it's incredibly fucked up and disturbing, but if it's done well, it can be intensely arousing at the same time; again, contrast!)

I guess the distinction to me between the feeling of a person hiding who they are and the person being corrupted is in the quality of the writing and scenario and it's usually poor (it's all porn after all). I think it can potentially be done well but it seems a lot safer and easier to go with hypnosis/brainwashing as a hook for extreme routes because it makes more sense as a reason for change over 'get groped a few times>lose to cock instantly>become completely fine with extreme/degrading sex'. It's just really hard to take seriously to me on its own.

 

[niifan]

anyona can upload tsumibukai yokubo chapter 3/3

 

[crnisl]

I am gonna ask a question that some might not like, but please, if you don't, just don't interact:
Do you guys happen to have any recommendations for NTR games with gay content? I am into guys, but also super into NTR, and this type of game is super hard to find in M/M games. So anybody knows any of them, please tell me?

I’m not into that kind of content, but I’ve come across it in some games.

• Seeds of Chaos is the most thorough in this regard, lots and lots of gay content for you.
• Hero Party Must Fall netori, MC is a bull, and he fucks the cuck as well. But it's only a small part of the content.
• Netoria Tactics: Revolution not exactly gay content, but MC can be genderswapped and corrupted as a girl, together with his gf

You can find much more yourself, utilizing the search of this site.
https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/#/cat=games/page=1/tags=173,258,360/sort=rating

 

[crnisl]

Its just, absolute most ntr games end this way - the girl is a huge slut for antag, that she obviously wasn't at the start of the game.

Many apocalypse stories end with MC dying, so what?

I still dont get it. Yeah, obviously MCs mother still stays his mother. But she is a slut for antag at the same time. So technically, showing her sluttier with more extreme kinks should add to the NTRness, no?

Ah, it's the classic "servant of two masters" dilemma! She’s still the MC’s mother, but at the same time, she’s moonlighting as the antagonist’s dedicated enthusiast. Balancing those roles? Let’s just say she’s multitasking like it’s a career. Not easy!

As for kinks, if done properly, why not? But if it's made lazily, it ruins the NTR feeling for the viewer and just becomes another boring, bland story about extreme kinks.

Some creators think an extreme kink alone makes a story better. It doesn't. It might attract people with a fetish for that kink, but even they won't be satisfied if the kink isn't executed well.

 

[Readerf2b]

Many apocalypse stories end with MC dying, so what?



Ah, it's the classic "servant of two masters" dilemma! She’s still the MC’s mother, but at the same time, she’s moonlighting as the antagonist’s dedicated enthusiast. Balancing those roles? Let’s just say she’s multitasking like it’s a career. Not easy!

As for kinks, if done properly, why not? But if it's made lazily, it ruins the NTR feeling for the viewer and just becomes another boring, bland story about extreme kinks.

Some creators think an extreme kink alone makes a story better. It doesn't. It might attract people with a fetish for that kink, but even they won't be satisfied if the kink isn't executed well.

Im just trying to understand.
Doesn't feeling helpless is part of NTR experience?
And wouldn't it illustrate being helpless better when you witness you precious people being bullied, only to be stopped by same precious people because they are succumbed to not just accept, but like it?

And, if many apocalyptic stories end with MC death, that mean its a valid storytelling instrument.

 

[Knight6797]

I am gonna ask a question that some might not like, but please, if you don't, just don't interact:
Do you guys happen to have any recommendations for NTR games with gay content? I am into guys, but also super into NTR, and this type of game is super hard to find in M/M games. So anybody knows any of them, please tell me?

That's a very interesting question. I am straight and don't know of any guy - guy content in games but I feel like it wouldn't be too bad for the general fanbase if the was more of that content in NTR, I rarely ever see that too and I feel like it would lead to more inclusion in the genre.

 

[crnisl]

Im just trying to understand.
Doesn't feeling helpless is part of NTR experience?
And wouldn't it illustrate being helpless better when you witness you precious people being bullied, only to be stopped by same precious people because they are succumbed to not just accept, but like it?
And, if many apocalyptic stories end with MC death, that mean its a valid storytelling instrument.

You’re missing the main point - it's the ending. Just as NTR stories often conclude with complete corruption, both types of stories are primarily about the journey or process leading to that ending. The ending is the culmination, not the entire content of the story.

Your perspective seems clear: you’re disregarding the woman entirely, treating her as a fuckdoll drone, and focusing solely on the feelings of the cuckold. Maybe that’s a valid angle to explore, but why do you keep posing the same theoretical question over and over? Endless theorizing without action leads nowhere. Instead, create or find a story that aligns with your perspective, and then we can evaluate whether it’s meaningful or just empty nonsense, in regard to the NTR.

 

[Kulman]

I recently played a bit of The East Block and I kinda enjoyed the light hearted sharing fun of it. The game doesnt take itself too seriously, so while the writing isnt really that good, it ends up working. Usually you need many deep conversations about girl hesitating, them wondering if its okay, them setting up billion rules etc. Frankly I am kinda tired of that. There is a time and place for games like that, but sometimes lighthearted stuff like this is good.

So I am wondering if there are any similar games? Somewhat open relationship game, where the guy likes the girl to act slutty, tease him, cheat a bit perhaps while he himself might be getting some on the side as well? Its usually either a one sided netorase that is usually pretty depressing and depicts the MC in a very wimpy way, or just normal netorare. Normal swinging games are usually also pretty exclusive, where they just find a specific couple and have a lot of intimacy.

I just want slutty open relationship no attachments fun.

 

[Readerf2b]

You’re missing the main point - it's the ending.

So you never wanted that "endgame" would have lasted longer? Endgame usually have the hottest scenes, debauchery over the top and so on.

 

[Knight6797]

So you never wanted that "endgame" would have lasted longer? Endgame usually have the hottest scenes, debauchery over the top and so on.

Seeing what happened with Scars of Summer sequel no, after the first few sex scenes stuff gets boring quickly upon repitition. Corruption buildup and climax with the sex scenes are the peak of the story, everything afterwards is nice but kind of expected, better to move on to the next story/character.

 

[crnisl]

So you never wanted that "endgame" would have lasted longer? Endgame usually have the hottest scenes, debauchery over the top and so on

Why do you think the ntr games are made like this? Because that's exactly how this kind of stories works for most people, how it brings joy.

Anyway, a question for you: if we start with debauchery over the norm like eating shit - how do you drive the porn narrative further? Escalating kinks into amputee fetishism, for example? Or some non-sex-related advancement? See, no matter what, any narrative is interesting only as long as something is changing.

 

[Eet_Fuk]

Why do you think the ntr games are made like this? Because that's exactly how this kind of stories works for most people, how it brings joy.

Anyway, a question for you: if we start with debauchery over the norm like eating shit - how do you drive the porn narrative further? Escalating kinks into amputee fetishism, for example? Or some non-sex-related advancement? See, no matter what, any narrative is interesting only as long as something is changing.

Bro, you're becoming the MVP of this thread. I shall decree you lorekeeper
I also love the bimbo in your pic

 

[Readerf2b]

Corruption buildup and climax with the sex scenes are the peak of the story, everything afterwards is nice but kind of expected, better to move on to the next story/character.

Hm, seriously? Most NTR games have the big revelation for MC somewhere in 3\4 of the story, and everything after is just one big "persist in the doomed world you have created" which I actually more interested in than the previous buildup. Probably because Im more of bully projecting than MC.

Why do you think the ntr games are made like this? Because that's exactly how this kind of stories works for most people, how it brings joy.

Anyway, a question for you: if we start with debauchery over the norm like eating shit - how do you drive the porn narrative further? Escalating kinks into amputee fetishism, for example? Or some non-sex-related advancement? See, no matter what, any narrative is interesting only as long as something is changing.

Games made like this because NTR is essentially a story orientated genre that need progression of erotic scenes.

Typical developent as I see it:

-Setting the basics, who is MC and people around him, introductions etc.
-Antagonist appearance.
-Antagonist in action, neither we no MC knows about his shenanigans.
-We know, but MC is not.
-MC gets some clues.
-MC act on them getting revelation that he is being NTRed.
-Then normalisation. Like, neither MC (due to defeatism) nor his precious one are reacting like its out of norm.
-Then radicalisation from antagonist. Its no longer just heaving sex with MC's precious one, its more of a bullying him by proxy of a girl. Around here i think shit eating starts.
-Grand finale, super depraved orgy of all kinks, end-credits rolling.
-Revenge of MC, were he returns to NTR the NTRs.

 

[jaden000]

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[crnisl]

Games made like this because NTR is essentially a story orientated genre that need progression of erotic scenes.

Everything after is just one big "persist in the doomed world you have created" which I actually more interested in than the previous buildup. Probably because Im more of bully projecting than MC.

That has little to do with choosing between bully and cuck projecting. If you take bully-pov games, like netori games (obvious good examples: Hero Party Must Fall, Ntraholic, My Employee's Family, The Student Council President Is My Sexfriend) or even trainers, where the theme of infidelity is less relevant (obvious good examples: iNSight of you, Something Unlimited, Sansha Mendan, News Desk) - they all are about a similar kind of progression as well.

Just like in the corruption games with female protagonist, see? An obvious good example with a title that talks about the very point: Good Girl Gone Bad.

Again, the point where you're in a dissonance with other ntr enjoyers is not about bully/cuck projection. An important part of all these porn games, whether ntr or not, is woman projection, and that's what you are vehemently rejecting.