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Anyway, switching topics a bit, but bouncing off the theme of what makes something NTR, I had a shower thought the other day. I am 99.999% positive the answer to this is 'no', but: has there ever been a case of 'gender-flipped' NTR? To be clear, I'm not talking about NTS or anything like that, I'm well aware of that genre. I'm talking a story that hits all of the standard beats of NTR, but the usual genders reversed. Like, a female lead who is romantically involved with a male lead, but either in a totally non-sexual relationship or else one that's incredibly tame; then another woman enters the scene who is way more sexually proactive than the FMC, goes "damn this guy is hot, this girl doesn't deserve him", and proceeds to slowly get him hooked on sex with her, etc., etc.

As I said, I'd honestly be kind of shocked if this existed. I feel like the kink of NTR leans way too strongly into gender-specific stereotypes, e.g. the idea of male as inherently sexually dominant and powerful (and thus a man that is not like this being in some way inherently 'lacking'), or the idea of women as being inherently pleasure-addicted, but generally being in denial about it or otherwise unaware until taught. It does make for a bit of a fun thought exercise to imagine what something like that would be like, though!
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Senya_boy said:
Anyway, switching topics a bit, but bouncing off the theme of what makes something NTR, I had a shower thought the other day. I am 99.999% positive the answer to this is 'no', but: has there ever been a case of 'gender-flipped' NTR? To be clear, I'm not talking about NTS or anything like that, I'm well aware of that genre. I'm talking a story that hits all of the standard beats of NTR, but the usual genders reversed. Like, a female lead who is romantically involved with a male lead, but either in a totally non-sexual relationship or else one that's incredibly tame; then another woman enters the scene who is way more sexually proactive than the FMC, goes "damn this guy is hot, this girl doesn't deserve him", and proceeds to slowly get him hooked on sex with her, etc., etc.
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I met kinda similar things in some pornhwa, korean erotic comics
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Meanwhile, elements of 'gender-flipped' ntr are not uncommon in the incest doujins, don't you think? Most often, with sisters "stealing back" their brothers from the girlfriends. Half of the examples below are pure comedy, while the other half are tragedies filled with despair. IMG_20220131_170227_437.jpg
For example, the corresponding art with Azula(evil sis)/Zuko(bro)/Mei(gf) from Avatar is not uncommon.
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    My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute is another obvious setting for such a plot
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    older sis
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    2 older stepsisters
  • [Kakurenbo (Danimaru)] My older sister only does obscene things... | a shota thing, so I don't give any link. This artist has a couple of other fitting things
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    an older sister, there was only a potential gf, but the sis raped her to save her lil bro for herself
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    this older sis rapes her brother instead
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    kinda similar, but at least this sister doesn't rape anyone
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    with an older cousin, who seduced MC in his childhood, now the tables are turned, but his gf is getting cucked
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    Sakura seduces Shiro behind Rin's back / essentially a sis-in-law kind of story
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    a bit same, an older sister of MC's gf
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    mom-in-law attacks!
  • [Starmine18 (HANABi)] Ara-ara Mama to Seikou - same but shota
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    again, MC starts with a mother of his gf, but then another girl is entering the story - to blackmail-ntr the mother-daughter duo, etc.
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    to claim MC for herself, a girl manipulates his sis and female childhood friend into an "orgy club" behind his back
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    if you like the stories like the previous one
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    a female rival of FMC puts her into a blackmail-rape loop, while herself going after FMC's boyfriend. The 'gender-flipped' ntr is only a small part of the story, but the doujin is quite a masterpiece in its genre.
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    western comics about a relationship with a stepdaughter. It reminds a bit the pornhwa Seduction, but more straightforward.
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    a fitting non-incest manga from, meanwhile, an author of a bit fitting incest manga
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Hello, everyone! I want to ask for some recommendations, I'm kinda new to the genre (and hentai games in general) so it is possible some classics that I don't know fit my request. My absolute goat in the genre is Scars of Summer and its 'sequel' so anything close to that I'll probably love. I also like NTRMAN games although some are better than others, butI still think they're pretty hot overall.

Anyways, if we're moving to specifics I'd like a game with:
-Anime-like aesthetic, I don't care if it's anime 3d models like The King of Summer that works too.

-If it's art, decent art. I don't think Scars of Summer art is super top quality but that level is good enough for me

-Male MC

-Eventually the MC finds out about the affair and the girl continues fucking the other guy(s) in front of him even (I know this is super specific so extra points if you find something like this but not mandatory)


-Actual gameplay or semi-impactful decisions, not full linear visual novel

Thank you in advance!
 
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Sharkoo12 said:
Eventually the MC finds out about the affair and the girl continues fucking the other guy(s) in front of him even
Actual gameplay or semi-impactful decisions, not full linear visual novel
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And these ones are supposed to be fitting for each point of your request, and the scenes/plot are good enough, but I've not played them myself yet, because too grinding for my tastes
And less fitting, but the best ones:
 
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crnisl said:
And these ones are supposed to be fitting for each point of your request, and the scenes/plot are good enough, but I've not played them myself yet, because too grinding for my tastes
And less fitting, but the best ones:
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Mirage and NTR Knight don't even have combat, how is it grindy?
 
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hilih-- said:
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Wow.

It's one thing to be proven wrong, another to have it happen almost instantaneously. The power of this thread is not to be underestimated.

Thanks to both of you! I have a stupidly big backlog of H-games at any given time, so will probably be a bit before I check those out, but I'll plan to look through some of the doujin in the more immediate future; I am still really curious whether the 'vibe' of these ends up feeling similar, or in some way distinct from, more 'standard' NTR. More than open to hearing others' thoughts as well!

(Sidenote, crnisl, gonna echo anonsuit that the amount of effort put into such a quick response to what was honestly in large part a rhetorical question is just absolutely stunning. Part of why I mentioned my backlog earlier; I don't want you to think your effort was un-appreciated, even if it might take me a while to in any way act on it).

Sharkoo12 said:
Hello, everyone! I want to ask for some recommendations, I'm kinda new to the genre (and hentai games in general) so it is possible some classics that I don't know fit my request. My absolute goat in the genre is Scars of Summer and its 'sequel' so anything close to that I'll probably love. I also like NTRMAN games although some are better than others, butI still think they're pretty hot overall.

Anyways, if we're moving to specifics I'd like a game with:
-Anime-like aesthetic, I don't care if it's anime 3d models like The King of Summer that works too.

-If it's art, decent art. I don't think Scars of Summer art is super top quality but that level is good enough for me

-Male MC

-Eventually the MC finds out about the affair and the girl continues fucking the other guy(s) in front of him even (I know this is super specific so extra points if you find something like this but not mandatory)


-Actual gameplay or semi-impactful decisions, not full linear visual novel

Thank you in advance!
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crnisl said:
And these ones are supposed to be fitting for each point of your request, and the scenes/plot are good enough, but I've not played them myself, because too grinding for my tastes
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I've played these three, so will briefly add my two cents on them.

Absolutely agreed on NT:R (eh? eh? you see what they did with the name?), especially in terms of your last request point. As you can guess from the title, it's a Tactics style game (e.g. like Fire Emblem). The main 'gimmick', which I think is incredibly clever, is that within battles, there are in-game incentives to have the main guy off on his own (he gets stat boosts that way), and conversely to have the girls and the other guys close together (again, it literally makes them stronger). However, as you'd probably guess, this leads to them getting molested in battle, and slowly starting to fall for them. It makes for a great balance, and is one of the better ways of incorporating corruptive influences directly into game play that I can think of ever having come across.

NTR Knight and Mirage's Defection are both games that I enjoyed quite a bit, but depending on what your standards for "actual gameplay" are, they may or may not fit. They're both RPG-Maker games (I think? Don't literally know their engine, but at the very least that vibe), not literally Visual Novels, but they're both in the fairly common style of "wander around, find scenes, advance story". In both games, when you find the scenes, you're generally just given a direct choice (framed differently in the two games, but the concept is the same) of "do you want this to happen, or do you want to stop it". Basically, you just get to directly choose whether / how quickly the heroines fall. Again, I want to reiterate that I think both are really solid games, but if you read that description and think "yeah that's just a Visual Novel with extra steps", then maybe not for you given your preferences.
 
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Senya_boy said:
Again, not in any way trying to claim my personal conception of what makes something NTR is in any way the one 'true' one
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In truth, i too agree that such is the cornerstone of traditional Netorare. But one could also say that art is about reinventing cliches, hence maybe the "love interest cheats for the thrill of it" plotline can be considered as avant garde (so to speak) Netorare.

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Putting aside a whole 'nother tangent of what exactly 'corruptive' means and whether the girl being stolen away would need to be inherently corruptive
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Senya_boy said:
Thanks to both of you! I have a stupidly big backlog of H-games at any given time, so will probably be a bit before I check those out, but I'll plan to look through some of the doujin in the more immediate future; I am still really curious whether the 'vibe' of these ends up feeling similar, or in some way distinct from, more 'standard' NTR. More than open to hearing others' thoughts as well!
(Sidenote, crnisl, gonna echo anonsuit that the amount of effort put into such a quick response to what was honestly in large part a rhetorical question is just absolutely stunning. Part of why I mentioned my backlog earlier; I don't want you to think your effort was un-appreciated, even if it might take me a while to in any way act on it).
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You're welcome. As a connoisseur of siscest and sisntr-themed stories, I found your request quite intriguing. It was especially interesting to notice some correlations with my favorite themes - thank you for bringing that to my attention through your question.

Of course, you're under no obligation to go through the list. And anyway, I didn’t read all of these at once myself - some bring back a sense of nostalgia. In part, I put this list together for my own sake, and it was fun.

Meanwhile, no hentai so far, but I highly recommend this romance ongoing from a famous h-artist. Relevant to this gender-flipped ntr theme as well.
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Even though that's not particularly answering either of your requests, this couple of netorase vns (the first one is essentially an rpgm-based vn), imho, might bring you a lot of joy.

As well, I think you might really find some fun in a pornhwa like
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, with its kinda clumsy-realistic vibe of a mature woman letting herself unwind.
 
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Are there any good wife or mother games with some good logical puzzles in them. Solgante by Gapptax is a good example. Some minigame/puzzle solving that is in game and ingrained into the story feels like earning the scene to me. Hate just running around and the MC just runs into the scene.
 
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Anyone got a MEGA or Pixeldrain copy of RiNaTest?

The file on the official thread is only 1.0 and the latest is 1.5/1.6. Also the download link provided is very slow for me for some reason.
 
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