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[its_not_real]

But there needs to be a check to the spam. F95 recent uploads section has some really bad AI games that are blocking out quality ones. And these get constantly updated and uploaded, making searching for new NTR games a real slog.

The problem with that is WHO is going to make the decision between "this is a good AI NTR game" and "this is a AI slop NTR game"?
It's a slippery slope to walk. Either the forum has ALL or NOTHING imho.
IMO the reviews are the roadblock in this situation. If the game is utter trash, leave a review with 1star explaining why it is trash so other's know. Because I tend to agree with you, there has been a massive influx of ai NTR games lately, but banning them for being low quality is not the correct way to go, IMHO...

 

[Aukenn]

Hey guys, so it seems I can't translate this game:

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with Mtool... Do you know about any other program that I can use for this? I really want a good translation like what MTOOL offers, with chatgpt... Is there something like that somewhere? It doesn't matter if I have to pay(?)
Thanks in advance guys, you would really help me a lot

I remember Textractor working well with all the ANIM games, but if you're looking for better translation all I can really think of is Sugoi Translator.

 

[Sieglinnde]

I remember Textractor working well with all the ANIM games, but if you're looking for better translation all I can really think of is Sugoi Translator.

I will try them man, thanks. I hope I get a good result with this Sugoi translator

Edit: I downloaded sugoi translator but I really have no clue of how to use it... How do I use it?

 

[Sansone]

I will try them man, thanks. I hope I get a good result with this Sugoi translator

Edit: I downloaded sugoi translator but I really have no clue of how to use it... How do I use it?

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[Bofadeezus]

If the game is actually done then I'd be keen to play it.

The premises looks solid but the 2.67 review doesn't look good at all.

If 8947289hkd is around still, check and upload pls?

Maybe it's actually done now? 720MB for the full version while the trial says 238.09MB (same as in you gofile link)

 

[Syha]

If the game is actually done then I'd be keen to play it.

The premises looks solid but the 2.67 review doesn't look good at all.

If 8947289hkd is around still, check and upload pls?

2.67/5 on dlsite isn't good at all yeah...(even if it's only 6 vote)

 

[Kulman]

I haven't played a lot of this kind, just those that I mentioned
Do you have a dlsite link or something? I found this one that I wanted to play but idk if this is the one you are talking about:

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Yes, they are 3 games, all based on swapping. I personally liked the second the most, but that is mostly since I am partial to redheads and tomboys.

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Sugoivisualnovel should have some okay-ish TLs.

 

[Kulman]

I didn't, I usually don't like these things if they don't have something visual(?) but I will read it

I think if you look in the comments, there was a person who made a few pictures in koikatsu for each chapter.

 

[8947289hkd]

Maybe it's actually done now? 720MB for the full version while the trial says 238.09MB (same as in you gofile link)

no they "added" arm64 and 32bit versions so they took the same game that's a demo and duplicated it 2 more times to increase the file size on the dlsite page. now it's 3 238mb .exe files of the same demo zipped together so it's 720mb

 

[Erika8]

We should add rules to stop promoting game and share AI garbage

 

[SlidingSubject]

We should add rules to stop promoting game and share AI garbage

Why? It isn't illegal, and people can just filter it out.

 

[Kulman]

We should add rules to stop promoting game and share AI garbage

Why? It puts a new game on the radar and the dev is here so you can ask them questions about the game. Its a win win imo (just dont overdo it).

As for AI, there are good AI games too and I think gradually people will get better and better at it. I dont mind it at all, I would love for a lot of written erotica to get AI picutres added. You imagine it as if the alternative to the AI art was regular art, but no, for most of these game the alternative to AI art is no art and no game.

EDIT: talking about AI, I found this phone ntr game to be pretty good. Its still pretty early, but already a lot of content and the setup is nice. You get a choice of switching povs etc, but its mostly just linear so far (which I prefer) and a netorare, not netorase (though maybe eventually it will go into ntrs?).
https://f95zone.to/threads/nekontr-v0-0-6b-nekoaddict.245099/

 

[LordFrz]

Is HC3 going to be the biggest NTR game in terms of hours to complete? I'm looking at all the games I've played here, and only LOQOO a has more hours, but it's not NTR focused.

It seems longer when you play it release to release. Still a lot of content, but nothing too crazy.

 

[LordFrz]

What does shill means? You called me shillinde sometimes and I'm scared because I feel it's some kind of insult

Shill means to advertise it. He is saying your posting it every possible opportunity every day is getting old.

 

[Kulman]

Shill means to advertise it. He is saying your posting it every possible opportunity every day is getting old.

Nah Sieg does it from time to time, its cool.

 

[LordFrz]

We should add rules to stop promoting game and share AI garbage

No, I think letting people talk about them is fine. The more devs who dip their toes in means the more chances we can get a good game eventually. AI is a fine starting point, and they can move to better art later when they are better at making games.

 

[melantha]

blind hate against AI is crazy

i guess they still think AI can only be done like 2023 where you type "1girl, blonde hair" and voila

at least in my workflow, even a single character sprite has multiple passes over repaints, manual hand edits, and ADetailers.

it would have taken me at least 2, maybe 3 weeks to draw back then.
but now it can be done in 2~3 days.



not everyone is doing this, but at least don't blanket attack AI works

try to search ComfyUI, where workflows are like shader graphs in game engines.

I've said this before, but it allows technical minded people to achieve to make the game of their dreams. not everyone is creatively inclined to draw, or even financially capable to hire - or for whatever reasons they have that they can only rely on themselves.

 

[Waterfally]

No, I think letting people talk about them is fine. The more devs who dip their toes in means the more chances we can get a good game eventually. AI is a fine starting point, and they can move to better art later when they are better at making games.

I get this idealized version of looking at "AI" games, but the reality is more like there's currently a fairly big influx of arguably pure shit games being shat out that are all largely derivative from one another. Yes. There's good AI usage out there. But fuck me there's also an endless sea of shit everytime I click the "netorare" tag.

Sure, you can argue that just letting them be and they'll get sorted/abandoned over time or improve for obvious reasons, but it can just as easily be argued we could do we a tiny little bit of quality control.

 

[LazwelX]

I get this idealized version of looking at "AI" games, but the reality is more like there's currently a fairly big influx of arguably pure shit games being shat out that are all largely derivative from one another. Yes. There's good AI usage out there. But fuck me there's also an endless sea of shit everytime I click the "netorare" tag.

Sure, you can argue that just letting them be and they'll get sorted/abandoned over time or improve for obvious reasons, but it can just as easily be argued we could do we a tiny little bit of quality control.

yes there should be some quality control however the mentality of "every AI game is shit" is not good quality control it should be "this game made with AI is bad" not this game is bad BECAUSE it has AI in it" and like you said eventually it will start to balance out the shit ones will slowly fall off and be abandoned and the good ones will improve over time.

 

[EatingAnts]

i think use of AI images should always be seen as a downside. one that could be overcome with good qualities elsewhere. but yeah, the biggest problem right now is that these games have no value in any regard. no technical competence, written competence, artistic competence, they even fail to do the one thing that AI should theoretically enable from someone bottlenecked by art, which is sheer quantity of content.

i suppose it's not actually that surprising upon further reflection that the overwhelming majority of people excited to use AI in projects like these aren't using it as a crutch to enable them to flex their creative muscles elsewhere, but as a crutch to pretend they have anything at all (or to shit out as many individual 0 star products as possible.)

frankly i don't anticipate that very many games will rise above the muck. most creatives with any talents to speak of in any of the aforementioned areas that could potentially benefit from AI art will probably prefer to commission art where possible, peel back scope, or make do with amateur illustration rather than associate themselves with the shovelware.

it's not that AI art is fundamentally worthless for the creative process, ethical questions aside, but that it self selects for talentless hacks who will then push out or drown any AI art driven project with potential.