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I'll be honest, I've been tempted to use stable diffusion to create artwork for my own NTR game, and then hand animate the scenes.

These comments do give me pause though, as I wouldn't want a backlash. Do people have any examples of GOOD games that make use of AI, as well as really BAD use?
 
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I'll be honest, I've been tempted to use stable diffusion to create artwork for my own NTR game, and then hand animate the scenes.

These comments do give me pause though, as I wouldn't want a backlash. Do people have any examples of GOOD games that make use of AI, as well as really BAD use?
Personally, I don’t care as long as the NTR is good. Most AI looks great (it’s trained after the best art), but I think these games stand out:


Whatever melantha is doing with their models
I believe the creators here draw over the AI art and spend a lot of time editing, so it's consistent.

Steam also has a ton of AI games that feature animation in them, if you were looking for animation examples.

As for bad ones, there are many, but I don’t think it’s good to call people out like that.

Just don't use AI art AND have bad NTR o_O

I'd pay to read NTR with this art (even if it's AI)

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But this type of AI art takes a lot of brushing up, so my dreams of COTE NTR will be dashed for now.
 
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Personally, I don’t care as long as the NTR is good. Most AI looks great (it’s trained after the best art), but I think these games stand out:


Whatever melantha is doing with their models
I believe the creators here draw over the AI art and spend a lot of time editing, so it's consistent.

Steam also has a ton of AI games that feature animation in them, if you were looking for animation examples.

As for bad ones, there are many, but I don’t think it’s good to call people out like that.

Just don't use AI art AND have bad NTR o_O

I'd pay to read NTR with this art (even if it's AI)

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But this type of AI art takes a lot of brushing up, so my dreams of COTE NTR will be dashed for now.
Interesting, thanks. I just played netorase phone for a while and wasn't in love with it. The phone interface and the pacing is clever, but I agree with you that the art is slightly low-effort and quite static. I would certainly HOPE I put more time into slightly more exciting art.
 
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Interesting, thanks. I just played netorase phone for a while and wasn't in love with it. The phone interface and the pacing is clever, but I agree with you that the art is slightly low-effort and quite static. I would certainly HOPE I put more time into slightly more exciting art.
Something about it just always feels like slop. I can't place my finger on it.
 

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So this thread is now evolving from discussions of NTR games to digital artist getting NTR'ed.

Pragmatic approach for most people would be:
If AI art is easy, just switch to it, make banks on "the job" and continue your passion of drawing non AI art, isn't that what most regular people do? working (for the money) is mostly not about passion or fun. It's sad sure, but reality is like that.

Also jobs get killed every now and then, people upskills all the time, not that your years of drawing is going to waste (but it does feel kinda bad (when you invest 'time' on the wrong thing)), cut your losses, people need to learn and adjust to what the free market really wants. The velocity of that mentioned dev is amazing even if it's AI slop.

Some doomer might argue that it kills x,y,z and the art of making it itself, well... that happens multiple times already throughout history, and will happen again. I dont think art of x is going away in today's age, it will be there if needed, archived in The Internet.

About stolen things:
A human learns the same way as AI learns, stealing knowledge, patterns and imprinting it on our neurons.

Bottom line: Champions adjust to ride the tide of change. No crying in the free market, lest you became those miserable bitter just stop oil.

skyblueaster
 
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But AI art tends to use the same-y style, either the generic one, or that one korean look one, or the babyface one. There isn't really that much variation on public mass generated stuff.
Thats the biggest issue imo. They dont bother changing the style and just use the defults, so it all looks the same.
 
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guys any recom. for mmd ntr creators ?
I made a post about 1 creator in the SAO game
https://f95zone.to/threads/sword-ar...agic-part-2-v0-75-fujino.154352/post-15405195
then there are these:
- follow his videos about Izumi, they havea long narrative of mystery NTR and corruption.






not MMD but 3D
has NTR but focused on corruption still Blendy is the best 3D that i have seen.

those are the ones that I currently remember for NTR

Hey guys, so it seems I can't translate this game: with Mtool... Do you know about any other program that I can use for this? I really want a good translation like what MTOOL offers, with chatgpt... Is there something like that somewhere? It doesn't matter if I have to pay(?)
Thanks in advance guys, you would really help me a lot
as another quote replied you, in sugoiVn there is a file you have to download and just replace the file of your game with it. I recommend keeping the old file in case a bug happens you can use that to pass the line creating the bug and then return to the translation. also the translations are machine translated so they are not good according to people that like better translations. I personally don care.

may I interest you with PVC AI art?
you know that Is something I would actually want to see, it is a creative way to make AI art, and it is something a human would have trouble replicating. New Toy story Requiem! the game
 

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So this thread is now evolving from discussions of NTR games to digital artist getting NTR'ed.

Pragmatic approach for most people would be:
If AI art is easy, just switch to it, make banks on "the job" and continue your passion of drawing non AI art, isn't that what most regular people do? working (for the money) is mostly not about passion or fun. It's sad sure, but reality is like that.

Also jobs get killed every now and then, people upskills all the time, not that your years of drawing is going to waste (but it does feel kinda bad (when you invest 'time' on the wrong thing)), cut your losses, people need to learn and adjust to what the free market really wants. The velocity of that mentioned dev is amazing even if it's AI slop.

Some doomer might argue that it kills x,y,z and the art of making it itself, well... that happens multiple times already throughout history, and will happen again. I dont think art of x is going away in today's age, it will be there if needed, archived in The Internet.

About stolen things:
A human learns the same way as AI learns, stealing knowledge, patterns and imprinting it on our neurons.

Bottom line: Champions adjust to ride the tide of change. No crying in the free market, lest you became those miserable bitter just stop oil.

skyblueaster
Well… digital artists getting NTR’ed certainly fits with the theme, hehe. :giggle:

Despite the major drawback displacing artists, I’m actually quite excited to see what AI can do, especially when it comes to animation and making immersive VR worlds. Since we are a niche medium, hentai anime will probably never rise to its early 2000s heyday. Right now, the animation side is not promising, especially with the major AI tech censoring adult themes, but hopefully we will have an uncensored, refined model in the future.

There is essentially, no open-world VR NTR, so if AI could emulate those kinds of worlds in the future, we are in for a world of… amazing cuckoldry. :love:

I believe the shift to majority-AI usage is inevitable, so I don’t criticize devs for using it. However, I do prefer the tangibility of hand-drawn art, so I have opted to use it in my novel.

One gripe I have is that the "AI NTR" being released right now is actually detrimental to my NTR browsing because it's literally… not NTR lol. I can’t find any good Oshi no Ko or Dress-up Doll NTR because these guys are literally spamming Marin with BBC and calling that “NTR.” :cry: The ones with text can be pretty decent, but sadly many are just textless and really low-effort (no post-editing and girl doesn't even resemble Marin).

I need a little more backstory to consider something NTR, but something tells me the guy making a hundred images a day probably doesn’t care about that distinction haha.
 
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There is essentially, no open-world VR NTR, so if AI could emulate those kinds of worlds in the future, we are in for a world of… amazing cuckoldry. :love:
I promise you the NTR worlds AI will create in the foreseeable future will be no better than the slop AtlierSakura has been putting out lately.
 

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I can’t find any good Dress-up Doll NTR because these guys are literally spamming Marin with BBC and calling that “NTR.”
Rannero, the creator of The Curse of Pleasure (fmc-sisntr), uses to make ai-art of Marin (he is regularly posting in his discord) and even promised to make a solid ntr comics about her eventually.
There're some examples of his works. Imho, much better than most of Marin ai-art in . Well, Rannero is an artist himself, he's using ai with some taste.
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So this thread is now evolving from discussions of NTR games to digital artist getting NTR'ed.

Pragmatic approach for most people would be:
If AI art is easy, just switch to it, make banks on "the job" and continue your passion of drawing non AI art, isn't that what most regular people do? working (for the money) is mostly not about passion or fun. It's sad sure, but reality is like that.

Also jobs get killed every now and then, people upskills all the time, not that your years of drawing is going to waste (but it does feel kinda bad (when you invest 'time' on the wrong thing)), cut your losses, people need to learn and adjust to what the free market really wants. The velocity of that mentioned dev is amazing even if it's AI slop.

Some doomer might argue that it kills x,y,z and the art of making it itself, well... that happens multiple times already throughout history, and will happen again. I dont think art of x is going away in today's age, it will be there if needed, archived in The Internet.

About stolen things:
A human learns the same way as AI learns, stealing knowledge, patterns and imprinting it on our neurons.

Bottom line: Champions adjust to ride the tide of change. No crying in the free market, lest you became those miserable bitter just stop oil.

skyblueaster
This is a lot of words to say that you don't really have an opinion. A few other people have made similar posts already but leaving things to "survival of the fittest" isn't a real stance. Whatever becomes dominant in any given environment is pretty arbitrary and not always desirable. It's why people kill weeds and invasive species.

AI is only advancing as much as it is within 2d art because it's been a dead industry for decades. The only people around to care are basically hobbyists who have no weight to throw around. There will be a lot of people with a lot of money and power "crying" in the "free market" when it encroaches as much as it has in other areas like music, 3d, or voice acting.
 

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This is a lot of words to say that you don't really have an opinion. A few other people have made similar posts already but leaving things to "survival of the fittest" isn't a real stance. Whatever becomes dominant in any given environment is pretty arbitrary and not always desirable. It's why people kill weeds and invasive species.

AI is only advancing as much as it is within 2d art because it's been a dead industry for decades. The only people around to care are basically hobbyists who have no weight to throw around. There will be a lot of people with a lot of money and power "crying" in the "free market" when it encroaches as much as it has in other areas like music, 3d, or voice acting.
This reminds me of a discussion I saw once on an image of an artist complaining that his actual art pieces sold for pennies, but when the furry fetish people commissioned pieces, he could charge 100 times, and even more, for it and they paid upfront. He had to live, but he felt like he was selling his soul to the devil.

Some people think AI is evil and just slop. Others will enjoy it. Best thing to do, if you don't like it, is to just accept it's something that exists and move on, instead of trying to trying to crusade against it. Maybe just tagging it.
 

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This is a lot of words to say that you don't really have an opinion. A few other people have made similar posts already but leaving things to "survival of the fittest" isn't a real stance. Whatever becomes dominant in any given environment is pretty arbitrary and not always desirable. It's why people kill weeds and invasive species.

AI is only advancing as much as it is within 2d art because it's been a dead industry for decades. The only people around to care are basically hobbyists who have no weight to throw around. There will be a lot of people with a lot of money and power "crying" in the "free market" when it encroaches as much as it has in other areas like music, 3d, or voice acting.
Wasnt really writing if against or for ai art. It's pragmatism.

The free market isnt really about weed or invasive creature that thrive because there's free money. Rain and minerals in the ground isn't conscious, people are conscious agents, choosing which one they would like to support.

And yes, in it for the money = survival of the fittest.
 
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