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bubbacola7588

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New update isn't worth it. VERY disappointing this month. Don't ask people to be a hero, just wait for this terrible update to be released publicly.
 
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Iexist

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The latest updates only has Chris' perspective of the latest shenanigans. The slut's perspective will be added in the next update because the word count and art requirements got too high for the secondary project.

Oh, and they animated last update's scene(s), I think. At least, that's what I think was written in the announcement.
 

Missmiles

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The latest updates only has Chris' perspective of the latest shenanigans. The slut's perspective will be added in the next update because the word count and art requirements got too high for the secondary project.

Oh, and they animated last update's scene(s), I think. At least, that's what I think was written in the announcement.
What secondary project? Their other two games are complete, so...is there something I don't know?
 

ZUBiDAM

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What secondary project? Their other two games are complete, so...is there something I don't know?
there is the game a promise best left unkept, version 1.0 with laura as the main heroine which is completed.
but now the dev is working on apblu aya(also monthly updates) with aya as the main heroine.
clumsyness gets an update about every 2 months.
 

Iexist

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What secondary project? Their other two games are complete, so...is there something I don't know?
This VN is still a secondary project for HC. Their full effort right now in terms of both writing and art commissioning and so on is going into the Aya edition thing. Until that's done, this VN is going to be second fiddle, so updates will of course be less frequent and more limited in scale.
 

JohnDoe8492

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The latest updates only has Chris' perspective of the latest shenanigans. The slut's perspective will be added in the next update because the word count and art requirements got too high for the secondary project.

Oh, and they animated last update's scene(s), I think. At least, that's what I think was written in the announcement.
So that makes two out of seven updates for this game that are complete dogshit?
 

Iexist

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So that makes two out of seven updates for this game that are complete dogshit?
I haven't personally seen the update, so I have no idea why you'd think it's complete dogshit or not... but at the end of the day, this is still a NTR VN, no matter how weird it is about it all, which means that for the intended audience might still like it?

After all, VNs are a pretty subjective experience. One man's dog-shit is another man's pure gold.
 

ZUBiDAM

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I haven't personally seen the update, so I have no idea why you'd think it's complete dogshit or not... but at the end of the day, this is still a NTR VN, no matter how weird it is about it all, which means that for the intended audience might still like it?

After all, VNs are a pretty subjective experience. One man's dog-shit is another man's pure gold.
it ended when the "good" part starts so it can leave some unsatisfied
 

ZUBiDAM

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This VN is still a secondary project for HC. Their full effort right now in terms of both writing and art commissioning and so on is going into the Aya edition thing. Until that's done, this VN is going to be second fiddle, so updates will of course be less frequent and more limited in scale.
i don't think the aya version is gonna end before ntred by clumsiness.
there are 3 updates left- about 6 months for version 1.0, aya version will probably be longer than a year.
 

HueJass123

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If this update only has Chris view, is there even any nudity to be seen? Previous scenes from Chris perspective was hearing stuff through a door or seeing the FMC standing in a weird way and moaning
 

Missmiles

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If this update only has Chris view, is there even any nudity to be seen? Previous scenes from Chris perspective was hearing stuff through a door or seeing the FMC standing in a weird way and moaning
That's one of the reasons I hate low-effort NTR.

There's no lesson to be learned, no meaning to be had, and above all, no depth to speak of. Only a kick to the teeth and the game telling you 'hey, it's feel-bad o'clock, now feel like shit and thank me for it'. And I think we can all agree that right now, we don't need to play games to feel shitty, we just have to go outside and take a look at the godforsaken real world.

There's not even any sexy--it's all hidden behind a door or a curtain or whatever the fuck.

That's why I prefer NTR with a female protagonist (or female POV)--they HAVE to show you a thought process (which gives the story at least some depth), and lacking that at least you can fucking SEE the sexy.
 
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NTR Sommelier

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That's one of the reasons I hate low-effort NTR.

There's no lesson to be learned, no meaning to be had, and above all, no depth to speak of. Only a kick to the teeth and the game telling you 'hey, it's feel-bad o'clock, now feel like shit and thank me for it'. And I think we can all agree that right now, we don't need to play games to feel shitty, we just have to go outside and take a look at the godforsaken real world.

There's not even any sexy--it's all hidden behind a door or a curtain or whatever the fuck.

That's why I prefer NTR with a female protagonist (or female POV)--they HAVE to show you a thought process (which gives the story at least some depth), and lacking that at least you can fucking SEE the sexy.
You want a lesson from NTR? Here is the lesson: Even if you are the nicest person, the most horrible stuff can happen to you, at random. No meaning or purpose behind your suffering. So in a sense NTR is the most realistic of all erotic genres because guess what, as you read these words, horrible things are happening to innocent people, and this is not meant to "teach them a lesson" or "make then a better person" no, it's just random chance from a cold and uncaring universe. A good ntr depicts this brutal aspect of our reality
 

Iexist

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I think people really need to chill about this...

This VN is still in development AND a secondary project on top of that. Not every update is going to be good for everyone. On top of that, judging an unfinished VN like it's a complete product is rather dumb. People seem to be forgetting all of these facts a lot...

Natasha's perspective WILL come eventually, once HC has time to write it all, art is commissioned... so on and so forth.

Expecting things to be done NAOW or whatever, when this is their secondary project and not their top priority, is dumb.

Also, supporting someone for their secondary project is... a questionable choice when you should KNOW that it's not their priority and that their support tiers are all designed around the idea that whoever's supporting is interested primarily in the main project, the bonus scenes and the secondary project as a bonus. That's how they're designed.

Of course you're gonna feel cheated if you're not interested in like, 70% of the reason why those tiers exist...>.>"
 
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