VN Ren'Py NTR'd by Clumsiness [v1.0.0] [Hangover Cat]

[Iexist]

I think people really need to chill about this...

This VN is still in development AND a secondary project on top of that. Not every update is going to be good for everyone. On top of that, judging an unfinished VN like it's a complete product is rather dumb. People seem to be forgetting all of these facts a lot...

Natasha's perspective WILL come eventually, once HC has time to write it all, art is commissioned... so on and so forth.

Expecting things to be done NAOW or whatever, when this is their secondary project and not their top priority, is dumb.

Also, supporting someone for their secondary project is... a questionable choice when you should KNOW that it's not their priority and that their support tiers are all designed around the idea that whoever's supporting is interested primarily in the main project, the bonus scenes and the secondary project as a bonus. That's how they're designed.

Of course you're gonna feel cheated if you're not interested in like, 70% of the reason why those tiers exist...>.>"

 

[Missmiles]

You want a lesson from NTR? Here is the lesson: Even if you are the nicest person, the most horrible stuff can happen to you, at random. No meaning or purpose behind your suffering. So in a sense NTR is the most realistic of all erotic genres because guess what, as you read these words, horrible things are happening to innocent people, and this is not meant to "teach them a lesson" or "make then a better person" no, it's just random chance from a cold and uncaring universe. A good ntr depicts this brutal aspect of our reality

Thanks for proving my point.

You said it yourself. This is our reality, and it's brutal.

So why are we playing games to experience this? Games and entertainment are supposed to be an escape from reality. If I wanted a dose of 'brutal reality' all I need is to read some news articles.

The reason we feel bad is because we all know that things could have been better. If this was an Eldritch deity doing the NTR we wouldn't exactly feel bad for Chris now would we? There's nothing he could possibly do to stop this, so there's nothing to feel bad about--just sit back and enjoy the tentacle porn. We might even admire him for being so determined to attempt the impossible.

Good NTR should either teach us to have hope and be proactive in digging yourself out of the shit (Nebel Gesterjager is a great example--even if the NTR runs deep there's a chance to salvage the situation as long as you aren't at the point of no return), or failing that should at least have good porn that ISN'T hidden behind something.

TLDR: My point is, NTR is really just 'human tragedy with porn'. If it can't be a good tragedy, it should at least have well-made porn.

 

[NTR Sommelier]

Thanks for proving my point.

You said it yourself. This is our reality, and it's brutal.

So why are we playing games to experience this? Games and entertainment are supposed to be an escape from reality. If I wanted a dose of 'brutal reality' all I need is to read some news articles.

The reason we feel bad is because we all know that things could have been better. If this was an Eldritch deity doing the NTR we wouldn't exactly feel bad for Chris now would we? There's nothing he could possibly do to stop this, so there's nothing to feel bad about--just sit back and enjoy the tentacle porn. We might even admire him for being so determined to attempt the impossible.

Good NTR should either teach us to have hope and be proactive in digging yourself out of the shit (Nebel Gesterjager is a great example--even if the NTR runs deep there's a chance to salvage the situation as long as you aren't at the point of no return), or failing that should at least have good porn that ISN'T hidden behind something.

TLDR: My point is, NTR is really just 'human tragedy with porn'. If it can't be a good tragedy, it should at least have well-made porn.

"Good NTR should either teach us to have hope" Nope. If you want to feel hope, there are other genres for that. NTR is meant to be a tragedy. What you are saying is similar to demand that horror movies stop killing innocent characters and have an opressive atmosphere, well, that is the whole point of the genre.

 

[Missmiles]

"Good NTR should either teach us to have hope" Nope. If you want to feel hope, there are other genres for that. NTR is meant to be a tragedy. What you are saying is similar to demand that horror movies stop killing innocent characters and have an opressive atmosphere, well, that is the whole point of the genre.

All good horror movies have depth, and have elements that make us think. Those that don't get panned because they tend to be considered 'bad'.

Unless it's something like Sharknado, so bad it comes back around to being entertaining.

Your point?

 

[HueJass123]

Is there even any nudity to be seen? Previous scenes from Chris perspective was hearing stuff through a door or seeing the FMC standing in a weird way and moaning

 

[Amosss]

Is there even any nudity to be seen? Previous scenes from Chris perspective was hearing stuff through a door or seeing the FMC standing in a weird way and moaning

Couldn't tell ya mate, noone's been generous enough to share yet... unless??

 

[ZUBiDAM]

All good horror movies have depth, and have elements that make us think. Those that don't get panned because they tend to be considered 'bad'.

Unless it's something like Sharknado, so bad it comes back around to being entertaining.

Your point?

most horror movies have a bad end, what the good lessons of hope you learned from horror movies? or some of the incest games on this site lol
just because you don't like where the plot is heading doesn't mean it's bad
there shouldn't be any limit or restrictions for fiction expect unlawful ones like childporn etc.

 

[Missmiles]

most horror movies have a bad end, what the good lessons of hope you learned from horror movies? or some of the incest games on this site lol
just because you don't like where the plot is heading doesn't mean it's bad
there shouldn't be any limit or restrictions for fiction expect unlawful ones like childporn etc.

Never said that. Also most horror movies leave me thinking about how I could do better if I face a similar situation (say, an argument between people I have to work with), or at the very least, grateful that I'm not the one dealing with zombies or ghosts or a truth-or-dare game that literally kills you. Even if only for a moment it makes me grateful that I'm not the one being trapped in the horror movie's setting and have to deal with its threats.

For this game, I treat it like I do Miel games. I expect no depth from it or its story, but I do expect some decent sexy for me to get off to.

Go up the line of posts to the beginning of the conversation and you'll find that I was responding to somebody else's post about how the Chris perspective always has the sexy being hidden.

As for the last one...well, I'll say let's not judge others' fetishes as long as they keep it to themselves, but those should stay strictly in the world on hentai.

 

[lkjhgfdfghjkl]

There's no lesson to be learned, no meaning to be had, and above all, no depth to speak of. Only a kick to the teeth and the game telling you 'hey, it's feel-bad o'clock, now feel like shit and thank me for it'. And I think we can all agree that right now, we don't need to play games to feel shitty, we just have to go outside and take a look at the godforsaken real world.

I think this Dev's projects are more like dark comedies than horror movies in the sense that they make light of taboo topics and invite the viewers to enjoy it. Hopelessness is one of the core themes they aim to explore in this regard.

It's understandable if you find their stories upsetting but I doubt this was necessarily intended. Not everyone reacts the same way that you do

 

[zhrekbond]

When is the next update guys?

 

[ZUBiDAM]

Never said that. Also most horror movies leave me thinking about how I could do better if I face a similar situation (say, an argument between people I have to work with), or at the very least, grateful that I'm not the one dealing with zombies or ghosts or a truth-or-dare game that literally kills you. Even if only for a moment it makes me grateful that I'm not the one being trapped in the horror movie's setting and have to deal with its threats.

For this game, I treat it like I do Miel games. I expect no depth from it or its story, but I do expect some decent sexy for me to get off to.

Go up the line of posts to the beginning of the conversation and you'll find that I was responding to somebody else's post about how the Chris perspective always has the sexy being hidden.

As for the last one...well, I'll say let's not judge others' fetishes as long as they keep it to themselves, but those should stay strictly in the world on hentai.

if the mc never finds out i wouldn't consider it such a bad ending when compared to ntr endings which are a lot worst.
it does seem like chris perspective might not show the full picture even until the end. but we do know it will have and open ending according to the dev, also there is a possibility of a continuation if wanted.
i won't spoil but there is another perspective besides chris in this update... and i think it will have a role from now on.
there are sex scenes/scene in this update but still the update ended in an abrupt way.

 

[MaximusCryo]

When is the next update guys?

approx at the end of the 2nd month that is january or the first 2 weeks of february

 

[Marcos883838]

hero?

 

[Ericopa12]

some hero? just for the faps laughs

 

[Kudoko]

approx at the end of the 2nd month that is january or the first 2 weeks of february

Update as a another incomplete add on or the complete finished version?

 

[greybear55]

Bros I paid $25 to get early access for v7.0 because it's one of the few NTR games out there that became one of my faves. But this update v7.0 sucks!!!! I mean, no Natasha perspective WTF. I don't care if the update takes an extra month to make animations! I prefer quality updates instead of rushed ones.

Also, one sex scene from v7.0 is Chris dreaming about Natasha and them having sex in a cowgirl position. The second sex scene is Jeff's inner demon and Natasha fucking on the ground doing missionary, BUT! You CAN'T SEE NATASHA'S FACE. Instead, you just see Jeff's ass and cock fucking Natasha's pussy because it's coming from ANOTHER PERSON'S perspective!

There were FOUR SEX SCENES that Natasha did behind Chris' back, but none of those could be seen because there is no Natasha perspective in v7.0. HONESTLY, I wouldn't mind if those sex scenes aren't fully animated!!! Even if it was just CG like the earlier versions, I'm okay with that! At least we could see FOUR SEX SCENES of Natasha in v7.0! But nope. The developer has planned to make sure that all future versions have their sex scenes fully animated, which makes things take a long time.

He could just fully animate sex scenes in the future AFTER the game is complete. We just want to see sex scenes even if it's CG and not fully animated.

$25 is nothing to me, but I am seriously pissed off that I eagerly waited with EXCITEMENT for two months and paid $25 for an obscure update. I'm sorry, but it's just not worth it.

To the developer, I seriously do hope that you just release quality updates. Fuck it if people complain about the two months deadline. They will become mad if the update sucks anyway!

 

[Amosss]

Fuck it if people complain about the two months deadline. They will become mad if the update sucks anyway!

Preach

 

[MaximusCryo]

Isnt APBLU done yet? what other projects is he working with now besides ntrd by clumsiness?

 

[Amosss]

Isnt APBLU done yet? what other projects is he working with now besides ntrd by clumsiness?

Yes, kind of. The main APBLU is done, it's now just the Aya version and the bonus scences for that one, I think?

Well, I could gather as much from the recent posts.

 

[Marcos883838]

hero?