VN Ren'Py NTR'ed by My Friend [v0.4.2] [NTR.ai]

[Rahveryn]

Yeah, so... Visuals are great, amazing animation work with AI. Unfortunately it's just another...

"I created out of thin air a 'good man' but mainly a pathetic wimp, paired him with a 'Loyal' goddess who loves him and plans to create her life with him. Then you create out of thin air a big-dicked loser asshole, who quickly finds 'reasons' to hammer away at the poor goddess, and she tosses her relationship into the toilet to become a 1-dimensional enthusiastic cum-dump."

This plot is old, no matter how pretty the pictures. Hey at least this asshole isn't black... not all in on the tired old trope. At this point, The Cuck is dismissable, the Slut is a piece of garbage to be discarded, and the Asshole needs to be shot and left in a ditch. End of story. No character is likable or relatable. Really couldn't care less what happens to them anymore.

Just once it would be amazing if this was not the go to plot for this type of fantasy. I mean seriously, Why not, just once, have the Cuck actually not be a pathetic wimp, but solid athete, smart and built, A good man (with an impressibe package himself), but the Girl finds herself in a blackmail situation, and is leveraged into being somebody elses toy, but has to keep it secret to protect herself and her lover. Unfortunately she finds she loves the rough sex she's forced to engage in; even as she hates her tormentors; even though he actual lover is very satisfing, and the strain of the 2 lives evokes the drama. Make the MC begin an adventure unknowingly puting him on course to expose his lovers tormentors, meanwhile the FMC can be trying to sabotage them from the inside, surrendering to using her body to earn her access to their secrets. Together, from different angles they rescue themselves from the assholes, and our MCs have to figure out how to accept eachothers newly expanded experiances and fetishes. Make the MC have have to cheat on his lover in the course of the adventure as he infiltrates his tormentors lives. Let the FMC find out first and have to deal with her lovers cheating, even as she is now cheating. drama!

I dunno, anything except this AVNs, admittedly well drawn, but insepid and tired plot.

 

[Jebulus]

Yeah, so... Visuals are great, amazing animation work with AI. Unfortunately it's just another...

"I created out of thin air a 'good man' but mainly a pathetic wimp, paired him with a 'Loyal' goddess who loves him and plans to create her life with him. Then you create out of thin air a big-dicked loser asshole, who quickly finds 'reasons' to hammer away at the poor goddess, and she tosses her relationship into the toilet to become a 1-dimensional enthusiastic cum-dump."

This plot is old, no matter how pretty the pictures. Hey at least this asshole isn't black... not all in on the tired old trope. At this point, The Cuck is dismissable, the Slut is a piece of garbage to be discarded, and the Asshole needs to be shot and left in a ditch. End of story. No character is likable or relatable. Really couldn't care less what happens to them anymore.

Just once it would be amazing if this was not the go to plot for this type of fantasy. I mean seriously, Why not, just once, have the Cuck actually not be a pathetic wimp, but solid athete, smart and built, A good man (with an impressibe package himself), but the Girl finds herself in a blackmail situation, and is leveraged into being somebody elses toy, but has to keep it secret to protect herself and her lover. Unfortunately she finds she loves the rough sex she's forced to engage in; even as she hates her tormentors; even though he actual lover is very satisfing, and the strain of the 2 lives evokes the drama. Make the MC begin an adventure unknowingly puting him on course to expose his lovers tormentors, meanwhile the FMC can be trying to sabotage them from the inside, surrendering to using her body to earn her access to their secrets. Together, from different angles they rescue themselves from the assholes, and our MCs have to figure out how to accept eachothers newly expanded experiances and fetishes. Make the MC have have to cheat on his lover in the course of the adventure as he infiltrates his tormentors lives. Let the FMC find out first and have to deal with her lovers cheating, even as she is now cheating. drama!

I dunno, anything except this AVNs, admittedly well drawn, but insepid and tired plot.

copy paste that into the current ai prompt a couple of times, profit

 

[AnimeHentaiGamer]

the animation is amazing and lil creepy at the same time. can't wait for more.

 

[FatYoda]

the ai art is well done, the animations bit weird but prob the best we had aiwise yet.
the story is 99% written by ai, thats why its so long winded and soulless. could have been really hot but the end scenario is the most unbelievable shit ever which is a shame

yeah, i can't really disagree with this. Ive never walked into any room before and had it be so dark i couldn't tell i was about to sit on someone...and if i ever did, light switches exist for a reason. But w/e, i was ready for her to get her fuck on so at least we're here. She should have just walked into the bathroom and seen him right after that dream...maybe he's tugging one out and she just can't resist anymore cause the dream got her so worked up, maybe she just sees it and says fuck it and plops down on the floor and they masturbate together...that would have been super believable, but i don't really care either. I want to see her jumping on that dick so it's w/e....and her BF is also just a moron who hasn't fucked his gorgeous 25ish year old girl in like a month so she's obviously just on edge all the time. Women in their mid to late twenties are usually as horny as teenage boys. If you don't take care of her at least 3-4 times a week she's likely going to be sexually frustrated.

 

[FatYoda]

Yeah, so... Visuals are great, amazing animation work with AI. Unfortunately it's just another...

"I created out of thin air a 'good man' but mainly a pathetic wimp, paired him with a 'Loyal' goddess who loves him and plans to create her life with him. Then you create out of thin air a big-dicked loser asshole, who quickly finds 'reasons' to hammer away at the poor goddess, and she tosses her relationship into the toilet to become a 1-dimensional enthusiastic cum-dump."

This plot is old, no matter how pretty the pictures. Hey at least this asshole isn't black... not all in on the tired old trope. At this point, The Cuck is dismissable, the Slut is a piece of garbage to be discarded, and the Asshole needs to be shot and left in a ditch. End of story. No character is likable or relatable. Really couldn't care less what happens to them anymore.

Just once it would be amazing if this was not the go to plot for this type of fantasy. I mean seriously, Why not, just once, have the Cuck actually not be a pathetic wimp, but solid athete, smart and built, A good man (with an impressibe package himself), but the Girl finds herself in a blackmail situation, and is leveraged into being somebody elses toy, but has to keep it secret to protect herself and her lover. Unfortunately she finds she loves the rough sex she's forced to engage in; even as she hates her tormentors; even though he actual lover is very satisfing, and the strain of the 2 lives evokes the drama. Make the MC begin an adventure unknowingly puting him on course to expose his lovers tormentors, meanwhile the FMC can be trying to sabotage them from the inside, surrendering to using her body to earn her access to their secrets. Together, from different angles they rescue themselves from the assholes, and our MCs have to figure out how to accept eachothers newly expanded experiances and fetishes. Make the MC have have to cheat on his lover in the course of the adventure as he infiltrates his tormentors lives. Let the FMC find out first and have to deal with her lovers cheating, even as she is now cheating. drama!

I dunno, anything except this AVNs, admittedly well drawn, but insepid and tired plot.

not a huge NTR fan, but i'd play that. Ive always wanted to play a corruption game where you take down the douchebags who are abusing your girl while playing a strong dominant type MC who isn't shit in bed. It's nearly every NTR and NTS game out there. Weak willed small dicked semi-pathetic MC who does nothing to fix his problems but learns to love watching....it's definitely getting old. I dont hate this game though. I like it cause i can rename the friend and insert myself as him so it becomes an NTI game which there aren't a ton of out there either.

 

[Tsakan1]

I mean the art is cool n all but... I sat on top of a dick in the middle of the bathroom floor in the dark? like seriously? you might as well of put a banana peel on the ground and let her slip on that and fall on his dick? Why tf this dude on the floor masturbating in the dark? like ???? and then she's on it and is just like oh noez I can't get off? This is some top tier meme shit. Parody level memes.... but tbf, NTR fans deserve this shit lol

 

[ZeroV2]

I mean the art is cool n all but... I sat on top of a dick in the middle of the bathroom floor in the dark? like seriously? you might as well of put a banana peel on the ground and let her slip on that and fall on his dick? Why tf this dude on the floor masturbating in the dark? like ???? and then she's on it and is just like oh noez I can't get off? This is some top tier meme shit. Parody level memes.... but tbf, NTR fans deserve this shit lol

Gotta agree. The massage leading into (very vaguely described) fingering (?? I guess? The writing seems to go back and forth) was a decent scene and somewhat realistic. Kind of a sexy scenario, the MC cuck being a dipshit and allowing his asshole friend that seemingly neither himself or his girlfriend like to massage his girlfriends thighs is stretching it but okay. I could see a line being crossed there driven by the heat of the moment. The animation was interesting in the scene too, but weird static AI animated hands threw it off. Also the portion where his thumb literally sinks into her thigh

Accidentally sitting on a massive erect dick that is so massive she cannot unclog it from her pussy? Be for real dude. It doesn't even make sense for like 5 different reasons. I dont want to backseat write here, but a much more appropriate and realistic escalation would be something like she voyeuristically watches him masturbate from the hallway while she does the same. Jumping straight into accidental sex so quickly is a crazy choice, both from a writing perspective and business perspective.

 

[NTR.ai]

yeah, i can't really disagree with this. Ive never walked into any room before and had it be so dark i couldn't tell i was about to sit on someone...and if i ever did, light switches exist for a reason. But w/e, i was ready for her to get her fuck on so at least we're here. She should have just walked into the bathroom and seen him right after that dream...maybe he's tugging one out and she just can't resist anymore cause the dream got her so worked up, maybe she just sees it and says fuck it and plops down on the floor and they masturbate together...that would have been super believable, but i don't really care either. I want to see her jumping on that dick so it's w/e....and her BF is also just a moron who hasn't fucked his gorgeous 25ish year old girl in like a month so she's obviously just on edge all the time. Women in their mid to late twenties are usually as horny as teenage boys. If you don't take care of her at least 3-4 times a week she's likely going to be sexually frustrated.

I want to say thank you, even if you found the scene a bit too unrealistic. I appreciate the feedback and thought it might help to explain a bit more about the intention behind it.

Personally, I don’t turn on the light when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night because it messes with my eyes’ adjustment to the dark. Most people I know are the same. I’m not trying to argue that this makes the scene perfectly realistic, just offering some context for why I designed it that way.

As for the characters' behavior, I’ve mentioned before that I intentionally tried to avoid making either Cristine or Blake too active at this stage. I still want to portray them as, at least on the surface, a decent girlfriend and a decent friend. I know some players may already feel that line has been crossed, but I believe things would feel even worse if either of them acted with full awareness and initiative this early on.

 

[NTR.ai]

Gotta agree. The massage leading into (very vaguely described) fingering (?? I guess? The writing seems to go back and forth) was a decent scene and somewhat realistic. Kind of a sexy scenario, the MC cuck being a dipshit and allowing his asshole friend that seemingly neither himself or his girlfriend like to massage his girlfriends thighs is stretching it but okay. I could see a line being crossed there driven by the heat of the moment. The animation was interesting in the scene too, but weird static AI animated hands threw it off. Also the portion where his thumb literally sinks into her thigh

Accidentally sitting on a massive erect dick that is so massive she cannot unclog it from her pussy? Be for real dude. It doesn't even make sense for like 5 different reasons. I dont want to backseat write here, but a much more appropriate and realistic escalation would be something like she voyeuristically watches him masturbate from the hallway while she does the same. Jumping straight into accidental sex so quickly is a crazy choice, both from a writing perspective and business perspective.

To be honest, it’s not exactly realistic either. Someone else would jump in and say, "Be realistic, dude," no matter which direction I take.

 

[jarngaffel]

To be honest, it’s not exactly realistic either. Someone else would jump in and say, "Be realistic, dude," no matter which direction I take.

I think you're going to keep getting alot of comments on that scene, everything else was dayum but that scene really got me going like huh? Its easy pickings for haters

not a huge NTR fan, but i'd play that. Ive always wanted to play a corruption game where you take down the douchebags who are abusing your girl while playing a strong dominant type MC who isn't shit in bed. It's nearly every NTR and NTS game out there. Weak willed small dicked semi-pathetic MC who does nothing to fix his problems but learns to love watching....it's definitely getting old. I dont hate this game though. I like it cause i can rename the friend and insert myself as him so it becomes an NTI game which there aren't a ton of out there either.

exactly how i play it too, don't get the appeal of being the cuck lol. The corruption aspect is great.

 

[lv3175]

Yeah, so... Visuals are great, amazing animation work with AI. Unfortunately it's just another...

"I created out of thin air a 'good man' but mainly a pathetic wimp, paired him with a 'Loyal' goddess who loves him and plans to create her life with him. Then you create out of thin air a big-dicked loser asshole, who quickly finds 'reasons' to hammer away at the poor goddess, and she tosses her relationship into the toilet to become a 1-dimensional enthusiastic cum-dump."

This plot is old, no matter how pretty the pictures. Hey at least this asshole isn't black... not all in on the tired old trope. At this point, The Cuck is dismissable, the Slut is a piece of garbage to be discarded, and the Asshole needs to be shot and left in a ditch. End of story. No character is likable or relatable. Really couldn't care less what happens to them anymore.

Just once it would be amazing if this was not the go to plot for this type of fantasy. I mean seriously, Why not, just once, have the Cuck actually not be a pathetic wimp, but solid athete, smart and built, A good man (with an impressibe package himself), but the Girl finds herself in a blackmail situation, and is leveraged into being somebody elses toy, but has to keep it secret to protect herself and her lover. Unfortunately she finds she loves the rough sex she's forced to engage in; even as she hates her tormentors; even though he actual lover is very satisfing, and the strain of the 2 lives evokes the drama. Make the MC begin an adventure unknowingly puting him on course to expose his lovers tormentors, meanwhile the FMC can be trying to sabotage them from the inside, surrendering to using her body to earn her access to their secrets. Together, from different angles they rescue themselves from the assholes, and our MCs have to figure out how to accept eachothers newly expanded experiances and fetishes. Make the MC have have to cheat on his lover in the course of the adventure as he infiltrates his tormentors lives. Let the FMC find out first and have to deal with her lovers cheating, even as she is now cheating. drama!

I dunno, anything except this AVNs, admittedly well drawn, but insepid and tired plot.

Yah totally agree on the tired old trope of 'some loser who somehow has an out of his league drop dead hottie wife/girlfriend that he can't satisfy, enter big dick bob who blows her mind (and vagina) and makes her forget limp noodle bf/husband.' I mean why can't we have a fmc that is actually happy with an attractive partner who can satisfy her in bed, but that gets slowly roped into the action by choice and seduction. I mean something along the lines of her just giving in for the thrill of doing something bad/forbidden and the risk of getting caught. Or maybe just tired of the same old same old and wants a rush. Or hell, maybe flip it on its head and have her be with a 'bad boy' but gets seduced away by the 'nice' guy that shows her a real relationship and feelings. Why is it always some weak 2 minute man with a 4 inch penis scared of their own shadow, that would have never ended up with a bombshell in the first place. I mean it makes you root for the 'seducer' in the story, cause why would a woman stay with a loser that can't make her happy?

 

[Enlight432]

Again, excellent art and animation
But Try not to turn the game into a comedy show
The penetration sex scene in this game was unbelievable from every perspective
Good luck

 

[NTR.ai]

Again, excellent art and animation
But Try not to turn the game into a comedy show
The penetration sex scene in this game was unbelievable from every perspective
Good luck

Honestly, I was a bit surprised to see this kind of comment from you. I’ve always appreciated the diversity and creativity that different creators bring, even when the content feels unusual or unconventional. For example, I’ve come across games featuring pig and cow girls. While it’s not exactly my taste, I still found the creator to be bold and imaginative. I wouldn’t say they were simply trying to make a comedy out of it.

I understand that the scene you're referring to feel like the most unbelievable one in this game so far. I’ve mentioned in other posts that the idea was inspired by certain tropes. Also, it’s not very different from scenes commonly seen in "stuck" content, which I quite like, although they are all unbelievable.

What makes me feel a bit disappointed is that we’ve had thoughtful exchanges in the past, so to now see the work being dismissed as a joke is a little disheartening.

 

[Enlight432]

Honestly, I was a bit surprised to see this kind of comment from you. I’ve always appreciated the diversity and creativity that different creators bring, even when the content feels unusual or unconventional. For example, I’ve come across games featuring pig and cow girls. While it’s not exactly my taste, I still found the creator to be bold and imaginative. I wouldn’t say they were simply trying to make a comedy out of it.

I understand that the scene you're referring to feel like the most unbelievable one in this game so far. I’ve mentioned in other posts that the idea was inspired by certain tropes. Also, it’s not very different from scenes commonly seen in "stuck" content, which I quite like, although they are all unbelievable.

What makes me feel a bit disappointed is that we’ve had thoughtful exchanges in the past, so to now see the work being dismissed as a joke is a little disheartening.

We both agree the believability of this scene is low
So let's talk about the rest of it

NTR is a serious genre, a genre that deals with a person's deep emotions, it's not like vanilla
A serious genre shouldn't be filled with heavy comedy. Yes, sometimes you can use a little humor, but the moment of betrayal, especially penetration, is considered a major event, and the first penetration, which is perhaps the most important, that scene should be able to create very high sexual tension. But when the level of believability is low, this doesn't happen because the mind doesn't believe it, it pushes it away
If you want a game to be taken seriously, the story and relationships must also be taken seriously
Does anyone take a comedy movie seriously? (I'm not talking about your game, it's a general question)

Yes, now some people will come and say it was great, these are subjective opinions. If we want to implement a great story and relationships, we need objective opinions (right/wrong), not subjective (personal taste -- even if someone makes the worst game in the world, some people will still come and say it was great)
This scene is a mistake, not a matter of taste
Personally, I couldn't connect with this scene at all

It's great that you're pursuing creativity and not copying, it really is excellent because these days 99% of developers don't care about that, but this shouldn't harm the believability and tension of the game
I'll revisit your game in future updates and play it again because I want to see reasons that will make me raise the rating

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Yah totally agree on the tired old trope of 'some loser who somehow has an out of his league drop dead hottie wife/girlfriend that he can't satisfy, enter big dick bob who blows her mind (and vagina) and makes her forget limp noodle bf/husband.' I mean why can't we have a fmc that is actually happy with an attractive partner who can satisfy her in bed, but that gets slowly roped into the action by choice and seduction. I mean something along the lines of her just giving in for the thrill of doing something bad/forbidden and the risk of getting caught. Or maybe just tired of the same old same old and wants a rush. Or hell, maybe flip it on its head and have her be with a 'bad boy' but gets seduced away by the 'nice' guy that shows her a real relationship and feelings. Why is it always some weak 2 minute man with a 4 inch penis scared of their own shadow, that would have never ended up with a bombshell in the first place. I mean it makes you root for the 'seducer' in the story, cause why would a woman stay with a loser that can't make her happy?

Honestly the thing that annoys me most about this trope is with the female she never portrayed in away to say the MC that she is with could be her first actual relationship who maybe even took her virginity so she has no past experience so she doesn't know anything else out side of her experiences with the MC , but on the other side she never portrayed in way that she comes across as this super slut where it would happen either way

So I puts me in the middle that she's had some sexual experiences, and yes I know it's a porn game and written a very specific way but she would of had sex with the MC in the early days of the relationship so she knows exactly what she's getting she has other experiences to compare it against so then it makes me think why then commit to the MC if the sex isn't your thing... Yes sex isn't everything but it plays a massive role in any relationship, so I guess what I struggle to see is what makes the FMC stick with the MC if he's not ticking all the right boxes

 

[Jebulus]

I want to say thank you, even if you found the scene a bit too unrealistic. I appreciate the feedback and thought it might help to explain a bit more about the intention behind it.

Personally, I don’t turn on the light when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night because it messes with my eyes’ adjustment to the dark. Most people I know are the same. I’m not trying to argue that this makes the scene perfectly realistic, just offering some context for why I designed it that way.

As for the characters' behavior, I’ve mentioned before that I intentionally tried to avoid making either Cristine or Blake too active at this stage. I still want to portray them as, at least on the surface, a decent girlfriend and a decent friend. I know some players may already feel that line has been crossed, but I believe things would feel even worse if either of them acted with full awareness and initiative this early on.

the massage (granted i skipped most of the repetitive ai dialogue) did already portray the "best" friends agency perfectly, but that scene u can get away with.

the bathroomscene is undefendable. you threw all believeability out the window here.
you not turning on the lights when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night is one thing. two people doing the same, alright can happen.
but theres a thousand other factors that have to play out perfectly for this to make sense.
the dude sitting in the middle of the night with his erect shlong on the crapper, why? diarrhea dick that doesnt fit in the bowl? he masturbates in the bathroom in the middle of the night? why not in his bed? he makes 0 sounds?
already unbelievable as fuck.
now enters the chick.
doesnt hear the dude
doesnt make out any kind of profile on the toilet, doesnt feel any heat or presence, doesnt hear anything, doesnt smell anything or anyone, doesnt check if the seat is down or anything just straight up pulls down her panties in the doorway i guess, positions herself to drop down on the bowl without entangling with the dudes legs whos shitting with a boner? jerking off without making sounds? perfectly angled with her dry pussy on his massive cartoon shlong? dick doesnt break, its just perfectly aligned to enter? legs arms hands nothing entangles just straight up plop pussy falls on top of dick.
bullshit.
the followup is even worse.
imagine ure a chick and i guess the universe alligned for a series of 501 consecutive lottowins kind of probability and u land on top of that dick, u dont jumpscare get off? RLY? because its too thick to get off? but entering is fine?

dude thinking this through gets worse and worse, this is 8year old boy braggin to his friends about his gangbang he had in the playboymansion last night believability. i know ai improved massively in the last few weeks, u cant tell me this took much personal input. if this scenario required more than 3-4 steps to create ud have held off urself at some point

ontop of lets just say incredibly unbelievable, u voided both characters of any kind of agency to make this happen. if either of them had, this fairytale inside a dream inside a fairytale would have been way hotter.

 

[NTR.ai]

the massage (granted i skipped most of the repetitive ai dialogue) did already portray the "best" friends agency perfectly, but that scene u can get away with.

the bathroomscene is undefendable. you threw all believeability out the window here.
you not turning on the lights when going to the bathroom in the middle of the night is one thing. two people doing the same, alright can happen.
but theres a thousand other factors that have to play out perfectly for this to make sense.
the dude sitting in the middle of the night with his erect shlong on the crapper, why? diarrhea dick that doesnt fit in the bowl? he masturbates in the bathroom in the middle of the night? why not in his bed? he makes 0 sounds?
already unbelievable as fuck.
now enters the chick.
doesnt hear the dude
doesnt make out any kind of profile on the toilet, doesnt feel any heat or presence, doesnt smell anything or anyone, doesnt check if the seat is down or anything just straight up pulls down her panties in the doorway i guess, positions herself to drop down on the bowl without entangling with the dudes legs whos shitting with a boner? jerking off without making sounds? perfectly angled with her dry pussy on his massive cartoon shlong? dick doesnt break, its just perfectly aligned to enter? legs arms hands nothing entangles just straight up plop pussy falls on top of dick.
bullshit.
the followup is even worse.
imagine ure a chick and i guess the universe alligned for a series of 501 consecutive lottowins kind of probability and u land on top of that dick, u dont jumpscare get off? RLY? because its too thick to get off? but entering is fine?

dude thinking this through gets worse and worse, this is 8year old boy braggin to his friends about his gangbang he had in the playboymansion last night believability. i know ai improved massively in the last few weeks, u cant tell me this took much personal input. if this scenario required more than 3-4 steps to create ud have held off urself at some point

ontop of lets just say incredibly unbelievable, u voided both characters of any kind of agency to make this happen. if either of them had this fairytale inside a dream inside a fairytale would have been way hotter.

If you are capable of thinking things through and explaining your points clearly, then assuming I just copied and pasted from AI to make a profit seems rather dismissive.

I am not going to claim I could have written this story entirely on my own. English is not my native language, and I struggle with writing in both Chinese and English. However, I do go through every scene and revise the dialogue while checking it alongside the visuals and animations. It is true that I sometimes cut repetitive lines, and I admit that was my mistake. I am sorry for that.

As for the questions and doubts you raised, I have already said multiple times that I know the bathroom scene is not realistic. What more do you want me to say? It is similar to "stuck" scenes in adult content. Nobody actually gets stuck in those situations either, but people still find it hot. That is why I used a similar concept here. I also shared my reasoning in another post.

And honestly, I really don’t understand why you’re so worked up. If I were a professional game developer and this were something you paid a lot of money for and couldn’t accept the story, I’d get it. But it is not, you can dislike and leave the comment, but why again and again and after I have already said that I know it is not realistic and also explained the reason in another posts.

copy paste that into the current ai prompt a couple of times, profit

 

[NTR.ai]

We both agree the believability of this scene is low
So let's talk about the rest of it

NTR is a serious genre, a genre that deals with a person's deep emotions, it's not like vanilla
A serious genre shouldn't be filled with heavy comedy. Yes, sometimes you can use a little humor, but the moment of betrayal, especially penetration, is considered a major event, and the first penetration, which is perhaps the most important, that scene should be able to create very high sexual tension. But when the level of believability is low, this doesn't happen because the mind doesn't believe it, it pushes it away
If you want a game to be taken seriously, the story and relationships must also be taken seriously
Does anyone take a comedy movie seriously? (I'm not talking about your game, it's a general question)

Yes, now some people will come and say it was great, these are subjective opinions. If we want to implement a great story and relationships, we need objective opinions (right/wrong), not subjective (personal taste -- even if someone makes the worst game in the world, some people will still come and say it was great)
This scene is a mistake, not a matter of taste
Personally, I couldn't connect with this scene at all

It's great that you're pursuing creativity and not copying, it really is excellent because these days 99% of developers don't care about that, but this shouldn't harm the believability and tension of the game
I'll revisit your game in future updates and play it again because I want to see reasons that will make me raise the rating

I think we simply have different perspectives on this. Personally, I don’t view NTR as a serious genre in the traditional sense. To me, it is a genre that often leans into portraying the female protagonist in a provocative, slutty, or morally ambiguous way, and that is part of its appeal.


Regarding your comment that "this scene is a mistake, not a matter of taste," I respectfully disagree. For some people, incest is considered a mistake as well, and that is why platforms like Patreon ban it. But for others, it is clearly a matter of preference. In my view, the fact that you cannot connect with the scene comes from your personal expectations of the genre. If you see NTR as something that should be grounded and emotionally serious, then of course this scene might feel off to you. But that is still about taste.


I have already explained the reference and the inspiration behind the scene. It is not something unheard of in certain adult genres. I am not claiming it is highly original, just that it follows a particular fantasy theme. I also do not believe any developer deliberately sets out to make something feel comedic unless that is their intention. Since the scene is based on something that already exists in adult content, I would say this is more a question of preference than a clear mistake.

 

[Hotcoupleeasy]

I care about one thing : I was extremely turned on by the last update. Was it not realistic or realistic I don't care. I care also that animations is super and the dialogue is fucking hot. This game is different and this is great. Do we need copy paste ? No, we need different style.

 

[ConspicuousChanneler]

We both agree the believability of this scene is low
So let's talk about the rest of it

NTR is a serious genre, a genre that deals with a person's deep emotions, it's not like vanilla
A serious genre shouldn't be filled with heavy comedy. Yes, sometimes you can use a little humor, but the moment of betrayal, especially penetration, is considered a major event, and the first penetration, which is perhaps the most important, that scene should be able to create very high sexual tension. But when the level of believability is low, this doesn't happen because the mind doesn't believe it, it pushes it away
If you want a game to be taken seriously, the story and relationships must also be taken seriously
Does anyone take a comedy movie seriously? (I'm not talking about your game, it's a general question)

Yes, now some people will come and say it was great, these are subjective opinions. If we want to implement a great story and relationships, we need objective opinions (right/wrong), not subjective (personal taste -- even if someone makes the worst game in the world, some people will still come and say it was great)
This scene is a mistake, not a matter of taste
Personally, I couldn't connect with this scene at all

It's great that you're pursuing creativity and not copying, it really is excellent because these days 99% of developers don't care about that, but this shouldn't harm the believability and tension of the game
I'll revisit your game in future updates and play it again because I want to see reasons that will make me raise the rating

Mate you are talking out of your arse like some elitist moron. There are no "objective opinions" the same way that there is no objectively right way to write a story. What does exist is a manner of how authors of the genre usually write stories - conventions, habits, distinct features. And even then you would be hard-pressed to find an example of a story that does *not* mix genres or deviate in other smaller or larger ways. Obviously, the departure from conventions may not always result in something surpassing the original, but it is, in essence, what moves literature forward and makes things interesting.

In my eyes, what you want is akin to a cookie-cutter template with exceedingly little variation for no other reason than genre-related "purity". The reason I am saying this is precisely because you mentioned "the first penetration", which you claim is "perhaps the most important" - that, in and of itself, is a distinct stereotypical feature of the genre. However, there are absolutely no rules that specify how and where this has to take place. I, for one, enjoy the author's decision to go against the usual flow - that is nothing more than another opinion, though.

When it comes to the "believability": I agree that the scene needs some more descriptive elements that make the situation at least slightly more likely in the context of suspension of disbelief. As Jebulus so crudely put it a few posts above, there are quite a number of factors that make the FMC not noticing anything unbelievable. The solution would be to add more descriptive little tidbits that paint her condition in that moment in a way that makes it*more* likely, such as extreme sleepiness after waking up from a nap which causes her not to think much of the things that she notices are off with the situation. Maybe she also woke up from a wet dream, that would solve another issue regarding the logistics of it all.

Lastly, disregarding the immediate buildup, the scene itself is really good because it is rather unique. The whole "legs like a baby fawn due to overwhelming pleasure preventing her from getting up" combined with the accidental nature and early-corruption unwillingness of it is something I have only seen one other time, as far as I can remember (Hangover Cat). Granted, that particular work does not take itself very seriously, but in concept, I believe the author can make it work with some more plausible elaboration. At the end of the day, it will likely remain as a rather more unbelievable scene (relatively speaking), but that is not bad in itself. What counts is what the author makes of it in the following scenes - and from what I could see from 0.5, he handled it about as well as possible and did not blow too many "first times", if you know what I mean. One thing I will mention though is that it is unclear in the last few moments of that particular scene whether the penetration is still surface-level or if he goes deep - I would prefer the former as that would save one more "first time" for another scene, and they are handy resources to have when it comes to building tension, as others have mentioned.

Fkn hell, this was much more than I intended to write, but w/e, rant over.