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Yet most of last update was focused on showing us how infatuated Laura is with Daisy's tits and Daisy with Laura's ass. How exactly is Daisy encouraging Laura to get closer to Andy? By groping her ass at every chance she gets or by hugging her while she's topless? How does this help hers and Andy's relationship? I'm not sure where you got that Laura's having that kind of feelings for him, when the only thing she keeps thinking is how lucky he is to have a hot fiancee like Daisy. If she really feels that way it would probably be a good idea for the devs to show that at some point, instead of her constant drooling over Daisy's tits.
Now, I get that the point of the last update was to get Daisy and Laura closer to each other, but they went full sexual from day one. They keep thinking how hot the other person is, how amazing tits Daisy has (we get it, they're all she can think of...), how cute Laura's ass is and stuff like that. That sets a certain "mood". Andy on the other hand is just a comic relief so far. Nothing more, nothing less.
Also I'm not missing any key plot points, sure Daisy is encouraging Andy (and only him), but at the same time she has made more progress with Laura than he did with either of them, while she hasn't really done anything to get either of the girls closer to him. The game goes with the "girl on girl doesn't count" porn logic, so even if he was to walk into them fucking, I'm sure he's reaction would be something like "Mmm, girl on girl" (insert Homer Simpson donut meme here...), but for me, as long as Andy has no idea what she's been doing, it still feels like everything she's doing is more about her, even if she thinks she's doing it for him/them. She can't make any decisions for him when he's clueless about... well pretty much everything. They are going to get married, she's not adopting him...
A game about an engaged couple with the only other people involved being single has more hetero scenes? No way! The point isn't what's going on between the couple, but what's going on between them and the rest of the girls and so far Andy had the option to grope Laura once and a peck/headbutt with her in the pool and that's pretty much the closest he got with either of Laura or Lisa, while Daisy already groped both girls once (not optional) had an option for one more groping scene with Laura, had her "accidently" fall on top of her while they were training and is pretty much the only one who made any actual progress in general.
It's a different thing for someone to be a driving force and a different thing getting the spotlight. No one's saying that Andy should be the one pushing the story forward, most men are "slower" with these things, so that can be all Daisy's work, the point is that so far she hasn't pushed either of the girls any closer to him, while like I said she made some progress with Laura herself. Plus Andy keeps acting like a 12 year old boy instead of a grown ass man... So I think I have a couple of reasons to worry about this turning into another "every woman is bisexual and any possible threesome has to go through the girl on girl path first".
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So we could have something like -
Andy : You had sex with my sister, so it's only fair that I get to fuck your mom
- Oct 30, 2019
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So we could have something like -
Andy : You had sex with my sister, so it's only fair that I get to fuck your mom
I've said this before: I try not to read ahead unless I have to! I'm as anxious as everyone else, so please trust me!
- Dec 12, 2020
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I know about this drama very well. I don't know how many threads i have tried to explain the difference between cheating and NTR to people. I usually harvest facepalms.honestly there's a guide in one of the forums on here that explains the differences and tbh people just don't want to look at it no matter what we say. I love netori, but try to mention it to somebody and they'll think it means mc wife getting fucked. Can't say I blame them as I use to be like that, but I guess I developed it and now have a better understanding. I would love to play a game where I steal the somebodies gf and have a relationship with them.
Try to say that to somebody and they'll argue that the girl is still kissing somebody else and just get disgusted at it thinking every woman in the world is just waiting patiently for the mc to come to the rescue like they cant have sex with other people or something
I just think it's a shame that so many are just not open-minded. As a result, the developers are massively restricted in their options. I love good stories. These are much more important to me than the individual fetishes themselves. Because they whet the appetite for sex and generate the important arcs of tension, in the first place. Theoretically devs can adapt every imaginable good film into a good erotic parody. It would greatly expand the variety of erotic games. But as soon as another man appears in a game, the usual childish screeching starts. And that's why we're almost always served the same thing churned out.
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I’ve never looked at it like that either. To think the amount of great stories we could have if there where times when the mc could save the girl out of a toxic relationship.I know about this drama very well. I don't know how many threads i have tried to explain the difference between cheating and NTR to people. I usually harvest facepalms.
I just think it's a shame that so many are just not open-minded. As a result, the developers are massively restricted in their options. I love good stories. These are much more important to me than the individual fetishes themselves. Because they whet the appetite for sex and generate the important arcs of tension, in the first place. Theoretically devs can adapt every imaginable good film into a good erotic parody. It would greatly expand the variety of erotic games. But as soon as another man appears in a game, the usual childish screeching starts. And that's why we're almost always served the same thing churned out.
I also just chuckled a bit because now I realize half the porn on premium sites is the wife or husband sneaking around and they start having sex and one of them says “you’re so much better than my ...”.Then some of them end with the s/o walking in on them at the end and screaming “WTF”. Let it be on f95 though, people will start screaming bloody murder.
If I recall, there was the one workout scene in which two women admired each other's beauty and Daisy touched sis's ass. Meanwhile, there are several scenes I recall involving Daisy encouraging Andy getting together with the other girls.
1) Daisy liking it when Andy gropes sis's butt when she greets him at the front door.
2) Mom groping Andy's dick when she spills coffee on him and he gets a hard on because of Daisy's earlier encouragement about Mom's sexiness.
3) Because of Daisy's earlier encouragement, Andy tells his Mom her tits are hot and Mom is pleased about that.
4) When Daisy is aware Andy is in the doorway Daisy tells sis about how hot Andy thought sis’s selfies are and encourages her to take more sexy ones for him. Sis is excited to know Andy thinks she’s pretty.
5) Then when Andy comes into the room in his underwear, Daisy tells Andy how hot sis thought he looked in his undies.
6) Daisy tells Andy to stroke sis’s hair while she sucks his cock using the sausage innuendo. Unaware, sis says I want him to serve me a hot sausage in bed too, and Daisy says "don’t worry, he will soon enough."
7) After seeing Daisy's mommy roleplay with Andy, Mom gropes Andy on the pool chair and Daisy likes it when she notices it.
8) Because of Daisy's earlier encouragement, when sis comes to the pool, sis thinks to herself "I hope Andy likes me in my swimsuit, I should take some pictures for him."
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1) Unlike most of Daisy's groping that was optional.
2&7) I'm not sure you understand the word "grope". That was barely a "graze" in both cases.
5-6) Again, I never said that Daisy isn't encouraging Andy, but that's all she does. When it comes to Laura, she has a more "hands on" approach, that doesn't involve him...
3) Yeah right, it was all Daisy's encouragement, because otherwise Andy doesn't behave like a horny 12 year old and wouldn't have noticed a set of tits hanging just a few centimeters from his face...
4&8) I'll have to replay the game to see exactly how those conversations went, but I'm pretty sure that 90% of what Laura's been thinking in this entire game was "Mmm... Daisy's tits!" because even Daisy herself thought about it in the pool scene, and yet she used it to her benefit.
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There are many possibilities. Once you have outperformed a rival who previously touched our wife, the sex with her is twice as good afterwards. Or maybe the rival has a girlfriend who we find hotter than ours. So it´s kind of revenge sex. There is nothing as sweet as the "forbidden fruit". Perhaps women are also neglected. And therefore she goes into the arms of another. Then power games and blackmail begin. You can build a great story on that, with all imaginable ups and downs. Like in a good erotic thriller.
It is hard to be a hero when the maiden is not in danger. And how are you supposed to be the villain yourself if there is no hero?There are so many ways to tell stories that lead to good sex. The software for this has been around for a long time. There are also enough developers who can do it. And there are definitely enough story ideas in one drawer or another for a long time. Now only the players are missing. People just have to "get the stick out of their asses".
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Dude, graze versus grope... really? I have to go back and look, but I recall Andy's Mom literally massages his tummy, inner thigh and touches his dick on purpose because she's jealous of the bj with Daisy. I love my mother, but if my actual mom did that shit to me I'd punch the old hag in the nose.
Also, we know all this action is happening due to Daisy's encouragement because of the inner thoughts of the other characters. Similarly, the exercise scene that's got you so riled up is largely inner thoughts along with the optional grope.
I respect your opinion, but I'm gonna quit because I ain't going to convince you. Personally, I mentioned in an earlier post my only reservation about the game was the multi protagonist. I think most dudes are like me and want to immerse themselves as a single male character. But that may be my sexist attitude and there are other fans of the game that like something different. Bottom line, I like the story idea so much, the multi protag didn't stop me from pledging on Patreon.
Look, I'm not saying I know what's going to happen in the future, if I was 100% convinced that Daisy will bang Laura behind Andy's back, I'd already put this in ignore. I'm just talking about the feeling I was left with, after playing the last update, and if you were to ask me what was it about, I'd most likely tell you that it was all about Daisy's and Laura's mutual sexual attraction to each other. Some other games using stupid/nonsensical tropes (like love interests having to... "go through" other girls in order to get to the MC, even if he's been openly flirting with them already...) probably made me more cautious that I should be and I know there was more content than that, but they went so heavy with the drooling/groping between them, that's what left the biggest impression to me.
I might still feel the same way or completely change my mind after playing the next update. I don't know. Only time with tell.
Anyway you're right, there's no point on dragging this out any further. We'll just have to wait for the next update. Even if we don't agree it's always nice talking to someone who uses actual arguments instead of insults.
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So is this how things work now? Are people going to browbeat devs until they get what they want? "There's too much ntr!" "there's not enough ntr!" "there's too much lesbian!" Oh and like how the excuse for using ntr is it will make the story better or it limits creativity somehow without it. The quality depends entirely on the talent of the writer/dev not using tropes as crutches.
Yeah, we're having fun. I know what you mean about other games, but like you said, you're sticking to this game to see how it plays out.
I just did a quick skip through to see if my memory was accurate. You're right, I was a little off on the pool scene, as the Mom doesn't grope Andy's dick. Instead she feels his tummy and leg while kind of talking dirty to him. However, I didn't see the excessive groping of sis by Daisy you talk about. During the exercise scene, you can choose not to grope sis, and the game skips ahead so you don't see Daisy getting a lot closer to sis. Also, you have the option not to tickle sis's foot with Daisy's foot. The only grope I saw that wasn't optional was when sis jumps into Daisy's arms in the pool and Daisy is holding her up by her butt and she thinks to herself something like "what a nice wet ass."
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The entire team is behind sabitiger 's dream of creating a true visual novel and we support him 100%. What he creates is what we we publish. This is his creation and nobody else's!
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I wish mods would just auto delete any post that mentions ntr. I don't care if people are for or against. I personally don't like it. But I'm not going to beg or whine to get what I want. I just ignore game threads that are not to my liking. It should be up to whoever is writing the story and that's it. A world full with entitled crybabies that have mental breakdowns if they don't get their way. I'm really like this game so far by the way. No way I'm ignoring this thread.
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