VN Ren'Py Origin Story [v0.6.0] [JDOR]

[pitao]

which means the MC should be able to use duplicates to gain powers. Something that can't be done with projections (unless, of course, MC can enhance the power). I very much look forward to the dev proving me wrong, though.

Hehehe the developer powers are almost unlimited (except if is something so absurd that no suspension of disbelief is enough ) so who knows what the developer can come up with, they are only limited by their imagination.

Edit : Sorry Romo, cut your quote and the inline spoiler didn't appear, fixed now.

 

[Rehwyn]

Evelyn has proven willing to do anything to make MC happy. Georgia could easily be convinced (probably Amber, too, in the future), Tanya could be ordered. Just saying, if the MC needs to entice a woman using another woman, he's already got a lot of options and it'd be interesting to see who would be willing to turn down those girls.

Funny enough, I only see 'practical' applications for Isabella's power (assuming MC already has Cat's power). Like conjuring a projection to distract someone or something. Further, we know that duplicates carry the metagene, which means the MC should be able to use duplicates to gain powers. Something that can't be done with projections (unless, of course, MC can enhance the power). I very much look forward to the dev proving me wrong, though.

Sure. But he can't pull them up at a moments notice any time and anywhere. Even with Todd, they might be busy. And as great as they are, they aren't necessarily going to be the person literally desired more than anyone else by a potential partner.

The other thing is there's no reason (we know of) that he can't use it in combo with Cat's power. So in theory he could have clones of himself and a projection using Isabella's power.

And then of course there's nothing stopping him from using the projections in conjunction with willing wingwomen.

And of course as you said, there's the practical uses. We don't know the range of it, but remember that Isabella was originally brought in for committing a robbery with her projection looking like Moonsong. So we can assume it's potentially long enough that MC can use it to trick people into thinking the projection is someone else. He could project Mrs. Ross and try to trick Anthony into telling him stuff, just as one example. Maybe it's accurate enough even to fake handprints and retinal scans as another. There's even more "everyday" uses like projecting one of the LIs to have them "try on" lingerie as a secret birthday gift to make sure it fits them and looks good on them. Or trick Evelyn's dad into thinking Parker is at home watching you and Evelyn when you're secretly there without Parker and fucking each other's brains out.

Yeah, it's limited to one instead of multiple clones. But it's massively more versatile. And versatile powers can be very powerful with some creativity.

 

[blkcrow20]

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Yes, I use URM all the time. lol

 

[Elhemeer]

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[MAGO-DAG]

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And now... imagine you also answer those people who write "where is the compressed version???" "Where android?"

It's good that I'm kind

 

[Elhemeer]

I mean, I could, but my only answers would be "Check the OP, try search, etc." You think I know where anything is? I was just teasing 'cause that post came on the heels of a conversation on that very subject

 

[blkcrow20]

Majority of people never bother with search. Also it seems most people don't read previous posts before answering someone's question, hence you get 5 people providing the same answer to a post.

 

[Soursteezel]

Maybe I lack imagination, but I don't see what having Isabella's power gets you over Cat's. Afaik, projection lets you project one person, so unless the MC projects a woman and basically fucks himself or the dev decides to go down a MMF threesome route (of a rando projection, not the MC), Isabella's power isn't as useful as Cats'. I fully expect an MC/Georgia gangbang using Cat's powers at some point.

I don't think you quite understand Isabfella's power. It's not about projecting one person but projecting a person who ever you are with desires the most at the time. When Isabella first uses the powers in the cell she uses it on Moonsong/Georgia and it projects Isabella because Moonsong/Georgia lives in the moment as she said. When she asked MC what he wanted he choose not to project his desire because he didn't want her to project Parker . That is when we find out about the second use of it to project someone she knows and that's why you get a choice of Anna Abrahams or Isabella in the moment. So essentially what Rehwyn said is that Isabella's power can be used to project a female if the target is into females or it can project someone MC knows. So it can be another female in the game essentially creating more FFM threesomes.

 

[romo-ice]

I don't think you quite understand Isabfella's power. It's not about projecting one person but projecting a person who ever you are with desires the most at the time. When Isabella first uses the powers in the cell she uses it on Moonsong/Georgia and it projects Isabella because Moonsong/Georgia lives in the moment as she said. When she asked MC what he wanted he choose not to project his desire because he didn't want her to project Parker . That is when we find out about the second use of it to project someone she knows and that's why you get a choice of Anna Abrahams or Isabella in the moment. So essentially what Rehwyn said is that Isabella's power can be used to project a female if the target is into females or it can project someone MC knows. So it can be another female in the game essentially creating more FFM threesomes.

Lol, I'm well aware of what her power is and mentioned as much in later posts, including about the FFM potential. But given that the projection has no autonomy and has to be controlled by the user, it's just the MC with a difference facade. Further, although I don't mind lesbian content (and so didn't disable it in-game), I don't find pure lesbian content to be super interesting and considering that as I stated, it's just MC wearing a skin, it doesn't do much for me. There's definitely a certain irony in preferring something 'real' in a made-up story over a dream or illusion, but that's my preference. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

 

[e6mill]

But given that the projection has no autonomy and has to be controlled by the user, it's just the MC with a difference facade.

Is Cat's power any different in that regard?

 

[S1nsational]

Honestly we don't know enough details about either girls cloning powers to truly judge their utility. Once we start learning more we can better talk about things.

Questions I have about Cat's powers.

• Is there a range limit between clone and original, and if so what is it? If so, can it be increased with training?
• Is there a limit of the number of clones summoned at once? If so, can it be increased with training?
• We know everything experienced by the clone is experienced by the original, what would happen to the original if the cone were killed not just timed out?
• Speaking of timing out, can that time limit be increased with training?
• Can MCs clones, created using Cats powers, use his own powers?

Depending on the answers to the above, Cats powers have a great deal of utility from combat to spying.

Questions I have about Desire Clone girls powers

• What is maximum range that she can summon peoples desires from, is direct line of sight all that's needed?
  Can that range be increased with training?
• We explicitly know she needs to puppet the clone, but control aside, can more than one clone be summoned at once?
  If not can it be increased with training?
• Is there a time limit on the duration of the summon, if so how long is it, and can if be increased with training?
• If the desire clone is of someone with a mutant power, would the clone be able to be made use that power?

There are probably more that need to be asked, but I don't remember the details of the sex scene wit her other than it was hot, and I only watched one of the two versions, so I know I'm missing some information



But yea, depending on the situation I can see DCGs powers being of use similarly to Cat, but as it stands I think Cats are more solidly versatile

 

[e6mill]

Honestly we don't know enough details about either girls cloning powers to truly judge their utility. Once we start learning more we can better talk about things.

Questions I have about Cat's powers.

• Is there a range limit between clone and original, and if so what is it? If so, can it be increased with training?
• Is there a limit of the number of clones summoned at once? If so, can it be increased with training?
• We know everything experienced by the clone is experienced by the original, what would happen to the original if the cone were killed not just timed out?
• Speaking of timing out, can that time limit be increased with training?
• Can MCs clones, created using Cats powers, use his own powers?

We've seen Cat conjure up 3 more Cats to avoid the naked girl's (Zara's?) company. And they were placed at the cafeteria chairs and posed sitting in them.
I'd add one more bullet to this (If I could get that option to work right )

- why did Cat not conjure another Cat or 3 to brain from behind the fuckers pinning her to that bathroom wall?

Depending on the answers to the above, Cats powers have a great deal of utility from combat to spying.


Questions I have about Desire Clone girls powers

• What is maximum range that she can summon peoples desires from, is direct line of sight all that's needed?
  Can that range be increased with training?
• We explicitly know she needs to puppet the clone, but control aside, can more than one clone be summoned at once?
  If not can it be increased with training?
• Is there a time limit on the duration of the summon, if so how long is it, and can if be increased with training?
• If the desire clone is of someone with a mutant power, would the clone be able to be made use that power?

I doubt either clone version will have access to (at least) the power that made them - or else you'd potentially have an infinite Cats problem.

 

[S1nsational]

We've seen Cat conjure up 3 more Cats to avoid the naked girl's (Zara's?) company. And they were placed at the cafeteria chairs and posed sitting in them.
I'd add one more bullet to this (If I could get that option to work right )

- why did Cat not conjure another Cat or 3 to brain from behind the fuckers pinning her to that bathroom wall?

Yea I completely forgot about that, well that's one question answered.

As to why she didn't use a clone to attack from behind, she was likely afraid of leaving her true body vulnerable to attack while controlling the clone, especially if she wasn't confident in her fighting ability. A surprise attack only goes so far

I doubt either clone version will have access to (at least) the power that made them - or else you'd potentially have an infinite Cats problem.

But I'm thinking of this in terms of MC having multiple powers, so imagine him making two clones of himself so there's three of him, them being able to summon three wolves who work independently of the body that summoned them. Or being able to jump into the body of anyone a clone touches, if a bad guy gets away, MC would be able to find them. Or when he gets super strength be able to hold things up/back by summoning strong clones who only need to be arranged and left holding/pushing. There are so many powers that would be incredibly powerful being used multiple times at once

 

[Reniere]

But I'm thinking of this in terms of MC having multiple powers, so imagine him making two clones of himself so there's three of him, them being able to summon three wolves who work independently of the body that summoned them. Or being able to jump into the body of anyone a clone touches, if a bad guy gets away, MC would be able to find them. Or when he gets super strength be able to hold things up/back by summoning strong clones who only need to be arranged and left holding/pushing. There are so many powers that would be incredibly powerful being used multiple times at once

What if with each clone MC's power also splits ?
Each clones gets 1 power ?

 

[S1nsational]

What if with each clone MC's power also splits ?
Each clones gets 1 power ?

Powers are genetic so I can't see that happening, the clones are genetic copies than can/must be remotely controlled. So if MCs genetics contains all of his powers, all his clones should have all of his powers too.

But say clones only get one power each, assuming that the OG doesn't lose that power for the duration of that clone, that would still allow for the doubling of various powers. So again, that could allow for, as an example, the summoning of two wolves assuming MC can control what power the clone gets.

 

[romo-ice]

Is Cat's power any different in that regard?

Imo, yes -- As far as we know, they are exact duplicates of the main body. It's like being in multiple places at once and no facade.

Yea I completely forgot about that, well that's one question answered.

As to why she didn't use a clone to attack from behind, she was likely afraid of leaving her true body vulnerable to attack while controlling the clone, especially if she wasn't confident in her fighting ability. A surprise attack only goes so far



But I'm thinking of this in terms of MC having multiple powers, so imagine him making two clones of himself so there's three of him, them being able to summon three wolves who work independently of the body that summoned them. Or being able to jump into the body of anyone a clone touches, if a bad guy gets away, MC would be able to find them. Or when he gets super strength be able to hold things up/back by summoning strong clones who only need to be arranged and left holding/pushing. There are so many powers that would be incredibly powerful being used multiple times at once

My guess is that since clones are linked and she's not a fighter it just increases her chance of getting hurt. When she's getting hauled away by the MTF, the script alludes to her making clones to fight, which means she felt desperate enough to ignore that risk.

What if with each clone MC's power also splits ?
Each clones gets 1 power ?

If the information in the story so far pans out, the power is assimilated into his metagene and the duplicates have a copy of the metagene -- i.e, my speculation is that each duplicate would have all powers.

 

[anon9gg]

When I go to the character background panel/page, all the characters work except Evelyn. When I click on her info, I get the following error [...]

At the very beginning of ch6, Evelyn's profil is updated but the variable handling it won't "exists" until you reach that point.
Meaning that you can't access her profil during the first 5 chapter of the game.
The dev omitted to set the default value of "evelyn_prof2_unlock" in "profilemenu.rpy".

Here's a small fix attached:

 

[romo-ice]

Powers are genetic so I can't see that happening, the clones are genetic copies than can/must be remotely controlled. So if MCs genetics contains all of his powers, all his clones should have all of his powers too.

But say clones only get one power each, assuming that the OG doesn't lose that power for the duration of that clone, that would still allow for the doubling of various powers. So again, that could allow for, as an example, the summoning of two wolves assuming MC can control what power the clone gets.

What we don't know is how much effort it takes to operate duplicates. As is stands, MC doesn't even know how to control the power to make a duplicate. It's possible the duplicates need as much control as a projection, but we know Cat can create multiple duplicates, at least. Further, we don't know if MC's power will enhance the duplicate power somehow. At the least, it 'makes sense' that the penalty for using the duplicate power is concentration, as it would limit how many can be made and prevent duplicates from duplicating -- i.e., if they're not fully autonomous and it requires some concentration on the part of the main body to maintain it would reign in the power, to an extent.

 

[Rehwyn]

Imo, yes -- As far as we know, they are exact duplicates of the main body. It's like being in multiple places at once and no facade.



My guess is that since clones are linked and she's not a fighter it just increases her chance of getting hurt. When she's getting hauled away by the MTF, the script alludes to her making clones to fight, which means she felt desperate enough to ignore that risk.



If the information in the story so far pans out, the power is assimilated into his metagene and the duplicates have a copy of the metagene -- i.e, my speculation is that each duplicate would have all powers.

What happens to Cat's clones doesn't seem to affect her main body in a lingering manner like an injury would, so they are effectively exact projections of her, just with DNA included. We know this because if you have sex with her, MC comments on how tight she feels and that she seemed in a bit of pain for a moment. Cat explains her real body is a virgin, so every clone she makes is effectively also a virgin. Despite her clones having sex many, many times, none of that has affected her original body at all. So if she's at increased risk of being injured, it'd only be because she might not be able to concentrate as well in her main body movements.

 

[Reniere]

Powers are genetic so I can't see that happening, the clones are genetic copies than can/must be remotely controlled. So if MCs genetics contains all of his powers, all his clones should have all of his powers too.

But say clones only get one power each, assuming that the OG doesn't lose that power for the duration of that clone, that would still allow for the doubling of various powers. So again, that could allow for, as an example, the summoning of two wolves assuming MC can control what power the clone gets.

Mc would just become the main host controlling the clones (main body) but each clone getting 1 genetic trait so 1 power