TigerWolfe

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Technically there are three forced scenes with the whore Moonsong.
The first one is when the player chooses to refuse her, but gets forced sex.
The second one is a visit to a fast food place with a mandatory dialogue that can't be skipped with ctrl, the player has to press all the buttons. There is no "end dialogue" option.
The third one is the second forced sex with meaningless point and click that can't be skipped with ctrl.
The author has made every effort to make all the scenes unskippable.
This is not a complaint, as you would like, it is a statement of fact.
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Rehwyn

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Had a pretty lengthy discussion in the Discord about this and my theory has grown a bit. I'll go into detail, but the TL;DR is that MC might be able to give unpowered people powers and/or make other powered people stronger by having sex with them.

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Circling back to Parker's comment, she's very knowledgeable about the specific workings of the Superflu virus and metagene DNA from her work. If my theory is correct, her comment might be because she's interested to see if Riley gets powers from sleeping with MC or if nothing happens.
Circling back to this same theory, I replayed some of the early game where Moonsong is first researching MC's power and a few of her comments stuck out to me. In her testing, MC's DNA latched on and merged with her DNA and not the other way around. This makes sense to me because MC's semen is on a "donor", not the other way around, so if there is a merging of DNA it makes sense that it occurs in the donor's body. When asked how this could transfer powers to MC, Moonsong compares it to how Todd can "imprint" on people by transferring his metagene DNA into them with a touch and that it's best to think about his metagene DNA as a tiny wireless transmitter. She also mentions specifically that MC's metagene DNA "harmonizes" with others.

So there's definitely some precedent there already where MC's metagene might be able to merge with someone's DNA that's been vaccinated and introduce the metagene into them, or as possibly hinted with Evelyn continue to evolve her power afterward since her DNA has been altered already at least a bit by MC's metagene.
 

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Technically there are three forced scenes with the whore Moonsong.
The first one is when the player chooses to refuse her, but gets forced sex.
The second one is a visit to a fast food place with a mandatory dialogue that can't be skipped with ctrl, the player has to press all the buttons. There is no "end dialogue" option.
The third one is the second forced sex with meaningless point and click that can't be skipped with ctrl.
The author has made every effort to make all the scenes unskippable.
This is not a complaint, as you would like, it is a statement of fact.
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Technically there are three forced scenes with the whore Moonsong.
The first one is when the player chooses to refuse her, but gets forced sex.
The second one is a visit to a fast food place with a mandatory dialogue that can't be skipped with ctrl, the player has to press all the buttons. There is no "end dialogue" option.
The third one is the second forced sex with meaningless point and click that can't be skipped with ctrl.
The author has made every effort to make all the scenes unskippable.
This is not a complaint, as you would like, it is a statement of fact.
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Technically there are three forced scenes with the whore Moonsong.
The first one is when the player chooses to refuse her, but gets forced sex.
The second one is a visit to a fast food place with a mandatory dialogue that can't be skipped with ctrl, the player has to press all the buttons. There is no "end dialogue" option.
The third one is the second forced sex with meaningless point and click that can't be skipped with ctrl.
The author has made every effort to make all the scenes unskippable.
This is not a complaint, as you would like, it is a statement of fact.
I read that. I disagree with all of it.

Why?

Because you went and called Moonsong a whore.

Everything else you said, or you may say in the future, has zero value. From that point on, YOU are wrong by default.

It doesn't even matter what or why you called her a whore for. That FACT is clear enough and simple enough that nothing else is needed.

Done and dusted.

Peace :/
 

romo-ice

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Circling back to this same theory, I replayed some of the early game where Moonsong is first researching MC's power and a few of her comments stuck out to me. In her testing, MC's DNA latched on and merged with her DNA and not the other way around. This makes sense to me because MC's semen is on a "donor", not the other way around, so if there is a merging of DNA it makes sense that it occurs in the donor's body. When asked how this could transfer powers to MC, Moonsong compares it to how Todd can "imprint" on people by transferring his metagene DNA into them with a touch and that it's best to think about his metagene DNA as a tiny wireless transmitter. She also mentions specifically that MC's metagene DNA "harmonizes" with others.

So there's definitely some precedent there already where MC's metagene might be able to merge with someone's DNA that's been vaccinated and introduce the metagene into them, or as possibly hinted with Evelyn continue to evolve her power afterward since her DNA has been altered already at least a bit by MC's metagene.
I'm still not entirely sold on MC being able to grant powers to non-metas. From Georgia's convo and Naveen's info, I surmise the way his power works is that his metagene will latch onto the donor, assimilate with it and then wirelessly 'transfer' the power to his body. Hence why Naveen was able to tell that MC had 3 (or 4) powers using his blood. What happens to his cells that remains in the donor is probably the question, but I'm guessing after they've done their job of transferring the power, they'll just die off like regular cells or maybe act like a drug to increase the donor's like of the MC, similar to the other parts of his power such as his pheromones and addictive properties.
 

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I'm still not entirely sold on MC being able to grant powers to non-metas. From Georgia's convo and Naveen's info, I surmise the way his power works is that his metagene will latch onto the donor, assimilate with it and then wirelessly 'transfer' the power to his body. Hence why Naveen was able to tell that MC had 3 (or 4) powers using his blood. What happens to his cells that remains in the donor is probably the question, but I'm guessing after they've done their job of transferring the power, they'll just die off like regular cells or maybe act like a drug to increase the donor's like of the MC, similar to the other parts of his power such as his pheromones and addictive properties.
It's definitely an unknown until we get more info. It's clear that MC's metagene is transferred from MC to a donor, merges with their metagene DNA, and "transmits" their power back to MC if they're in an appropriately aroused state. What's unclear is in what manner that affects the donor DNA long-term, if MC's metagene DNA needs to remain there to continue to transmit their power back to him (for example, if a donor dies, does MC lose their power?), and what happens if MC's metagene DNA tries to bind to someone without powers. There's hints that it might do more than just transfer to MC, but it's still far from clear.

Though on that note, biologically speaking, if the merged DNA functions like normal DNA, it would continue to replicate within the donor as new cells are created and potentially even propagate into any children they have if it merged into gamete DNA.
 
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Jericho85

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It's definitely an unknown until we get more info. It's clear that MC's metagene is transferred from MC to a donor, merges with their metagene DNA, and "transmits" their power back to MC if they're in an appropriately aroused state. What's unclear is in what manner that affects the donor DNA long-term, if MC's metagene DNA needs to remain there to continue to transmit their power back to him (for example, if a donor dies, does MC lose their power?), and what happens if MC's metagene DNA tries to bind to someone without powers. There's hints that it might do more than just transfer to MC, but it's still far from clear.

Though on that note, biologically speaking, if the merged DNA functions like normal DNA, it would continue to replicate within the donor as new cells are created and potentially even propagate into any children they have if it merged into gamete DNA.
The bit about MC's power possibly mutating the powers of those in his "harem" is interesting. It makes me think of Parker and Riley who are immunized to metagene. Even with the vaccine, they still have metagene in them even though it doesn't work on them. But if MC bangs them and their metagene mutates, I'll bet it can render the vaccine useless.
 

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The bit about MC's power possibly mutating the powers of those in his "harem" is interesting. It makes me think of Parker and Riley who are immunized to metagene. Even with the vaccine, they still have metagene in them even though it doesn't work on them. But if MC bangs them and their metagene mutates, I'll bet it can render the vaccine useless.
Yeah, that's definitely something I speculate could be possible. Had another discussion in Discord and remembered another interesting possibility (I studied microbiology in undergrad so this stuff is very interesting to me, but it's been like two decades so I keep remembering shit I've forgotten :KEK: ).

An interesting aspect of DNA is that genes can be present but non-expressing (not creating the proteins that actually do stuff), and certain factors can essentially turn them on or off. It's possible that the vaccine worked not by removing metagene DNA from people, but by turning off its gene expression within their body. Hypothetically speaking, if that's the case it's possible that for a donor without active powers MC's metagene could still bind to that inactive donor metagene DNA and transmit back the relevant DNA sequence, giving MC whatever the donor's power would be if active. And it could theoretically turn that unexpressed DNA back "on" within the donor herself, activating whatever her power would be if not for the vaccine.

There's way too many unknowns still to say if this is the case or not, but it's an interesting possibility.
 
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Though on that note, biologically speaking, if the merged DNA functions like normal DNA, it would continue to replicate within the donor as new cells are created and potentially even propagate into any children they have if it merged into gamete DNA.
Considering one of the effects appears to be heightened attraction to the MC, this idea feels like a slippery slope into My New Family 2* territory ...

*I only say "slippery" cause ... well, it's funny, but also not an iPatch game ...
 
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Considering one of the effects appears to be heightened attraction to the MC, this idea feels like a slippery slope into My New Family 2* territory ...

*I only say "slippery" cause ... well, it's funny, but also not an iPatch game ...
That's a good point about the attraction, but I don't think it's his metagene merging into someone else's DNA that causes any attraction, considering it apparently affects people without them having sex.

And as you said, not that type of game. :KEK:
 
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The guy analizing his blood did talk about some pheromones Jack's body was releasing and that were behind Parker's sexual attraction to him.
 
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The guy analizing his blood did talk about some pheromones Jack's body was releasing and that were behind Parker's sexual attraction to him.
Yeah, but pheromone-like attraction wouldn't be spreading his metagene DNA. Or else MC wouldn't even need to sleep with people to get their power, just sit in the same room with them for a bit.
 

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Yeah, but pheromone-like attraction wouldn't be spreading his metagene DNA. Or else MC wouldn't even need to sleep with people to get their power, just sit in the same room with them for a bit.
As far as we know, his power:
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We'll hopefully find out more in Chapter 7 what other abilities make up his power.

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