VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 Alpha] [Eva Kiss]

[scor099]

He's supposed to have some flexibility- but he is designed like one on a lot of levels. He's not a very satisfying male MC.

Too tiny and he doesn't get good scene content. The game is mostly focused on Lena and corruption. The men who can cuck him are larger, more attractive, have better scene content, and awful personalities. He has one 3some in the game and it is sharing Allison with one of them. A lot of his content is jerking it to pics of better men fucking his potential LI. If he shows interest in more than one woman he basically gets kicked out of their route content. Hell, every rotation one of his scenes is literally just the same art as two other generic male characters who can get swapped out for him.

Game is heavily focused on Lena. Ian is an afterthought- and he looks like a little bitch.

im gonna ignore all this bullshit because you can mold Ian into whatever you want but my problem is with one thing, "A lot of his content is jerking it to pics of better men fucking his potential LI" what do you mean by that? Ian can fuck all the women except Ivy which will happen soon and he can only jerk off to pics in only two or three scenes i think. if your Ian likes jerking off to pics of his LI thats your thing if you like to beat your meat to it but my Ian gets laid, so stop talking bullshit.

 

[Skylark21]

It's a game - not reality - what's a point of adding stats, if those have little impact on the outcomes. And if, despite the stats, player character has to loose - it's because plot needs it - because story requires it. In the beginning of the game Ian was not depicted as out of shape slob - he was already going to the gym for some time already (though he was not doing martial arts seriously before that moment yet)

And what difference will those stats make? Having stats in a game also mean NPCs has them too albeit hidden ones, so let's say Ian has 8 points in Strength, Jeremy or Axel will definently have higher points then him cause you know obvious reasons. Stats or not as of right now, Ian is weaker thn Jeremy, Axel and Mike.

 

[nevt2050ptr]

It's a game - not reality - what's a point of adding stats, if those have little impact on the outcomes. And if, despite the stats, player character has to loose - it's because plot needs it - because story requires it. In the beginning of the game Ian was not depicted as out of shape slob - he was already going to the gym for some time already (though he was not doing martial arts seriously before that moment yet)

In games, books, movies or other plot driven stories main enemies often fall in the end game. Defeating them at this early stage of game doesn't make sense.

 

[desmosome]

And what difference will those stats make? Having stats in a game also mean NPCs has them too albeit hidden ones, so let's say Ian has 8 points in Strength, Jeremy or Axel will definently have higher points then him cause you know obvious reasons. Stats or not as of right now, Ian is weaker thn Jeremy, Axel and Mike.

Not that I agree with the take that Ian is a pussy no matter the route, but there are official NPC stat cards.

Of course, the more atheletic guy is not going to win a fight 100% of the time, and these NPC cards are from way earlier in the story. Someone like Jeremy is also training, probably more than Ian, so he's gonna improve his abilities which already started at a higher point.

 

[Badboll]

https://f95zone.to/threads/our-red-string-v10-0-alpha-eva-kiss.48813/post-9502010

still missing like 12 scenes. But oh well they'll be out later.

 

[Badboll]

A while back I made a criticism in here and people started a witch hunt against me. I questioned if Eva was really a woman.

You do realize that's because if Eva is a woman or not doesn't matter.
Not even getting into the whole trans thing, keep that out of it people. Even if Eva is pretending to be a woman and is in fact a man. (yes that has happened before trans was even a thing go figure)
It doesn't matter. I never saw this witchhunt happen, but questioning the state of Eva's gender is not really something that has any bearing on what happens in the game and you getting flack for that makes sense.
You have full control of Lena within the scope of the story that is being told. The core story is the core story and you chose what happens to Lena within that.
If you had full control of Lena and there was countless more options the game would still be on v3 with twice the size and this game is already massive and really hard for Eva to tie everything together both in story and coding.
While I don't agree with some stuff Eva has done, the game is amazing overall.
Also Lena was working as a nude model before she even met Ian. So you have to consider that she is quite liberal with showing off to begin with, she was basically Axels sex slave which she also enjoyed as well. Lena was never a saint, now you can make her more pure from the start if you want and have her only do stuff with Ian and that's a perfectly fine way to play the game too. I prefer Lena doing everything and everyone but that's just me, I don't care about Ian, i think it's wasted dev time to focus too much on him, but the holly part of his story is great. I love holly.
Cindy is great too but I don't like her boyfriend at all, it would be better if he wasn't actually their friend but Cindy was instead and he just existed and Cindy shared her frustrations about him instead.

 

[bloodyasura]

A while back I made a criticism in here and people started a witch hunt against me. I questioned if Eva was really a woman. Because the way she writes the female characters on her VN's are totally through a male mindset. Untill chapter 9, Lena would only succeed in her life if she bent to all men in the VN, let them use her as they wanted. We were "in control" of the character but we had no control over her story. It was made to please any men in the VN. Now, after the new remake of the game, She is forcibly sharing naked pics online.

Then her story at chapter 9, at least, ends with her either doing what that old fart wants or getting fucked in her line of work. She'd be fired from the restaurant and he'd try to fuck her modeling career if she doesn't bend to his wishes. And any guy she'd try to work with would try to force her to have sex with them except for Ian. I am replaying this game now and I think it have gotten worse. since from the started she is already doing fully naked shots. I even saw images on her peoplegram naked even before seeing any picture of Ivy naked who works as a dancer in a night club.

If we were really in control of her as MC, we should choose which path we'd wanna go with her. The same happened to the girl in GGGB. If she doesn't bend to the black dude and fuck all his friends, she'd not succeed either.

LOL what? In GGGB You can get a great career in an advertising agency or a designer, I don’t remember anymore, it doesn’t matter, you don’t have to sleep with the boss or do anything else, you just work and achieve wonderful results, and how slutty you are, it’s up to you . At least in that game. Yes, and here, I suppose you can go on, some kind of musical career or something like that and not fit under everyone.

 

[italianstallionxxx]

can you play as manwhore and lena as a sweet girl who loves ian?

 

[Skylark21]

Not that I agree with the take that Ian is a pussy no matter the route, but there are official NPC stat cards.

Of course, the more atheletic guy is not going to win a fight 100% of the time, and these NPC cards are from way earlier in the story. Someone like Jeremy is also training, probably more than Ian, so he's gonna improve his abilities which already started at a higher point.

I've never said Ian is a pussy though, Jeremy and Axel being stronger then Ian rn is a basic fact because they are physically more buff plus they've been training lot longer thn Ian, what's so hard to understand? I guess some people are just in denial because Ian is MC in the game.

 

[MisterABC]

is there any ED in the new update ?

So far no unfortunately. But I hope he will get some young cooze ^^

 

[Zedire]

A while back I made a criticism in here and people started a witch hunt against me. I questioned if Eva was really a woman.

Nobody started a witch hunt against you - you insisted that Eva wasn't a female because of the impression you got from the writing. Then when people pointed out that Eva is indeed a woman and that men and women can convincingly write from each other's perspective if they're skilled enough, and will do so to fit a target audience (that is overwhelmingly male), you decided the answer didn't suit you.
Quit being so dramatic.

 

[Badboll]

In my opinion it matters when you can see the 100% male perspective on the writing. And it is not only 1 game, there are 2 following the same mindset. Even when a woman enjoys being controlled, submit to a male, there are a lot of female traces, thing they let slide. I don't feel a single trace of it in any female character in Eva's stories. It is the way a man sees a woman and not the way a woman sees themselves, either if they wanna submit and give control of her life or if they wanna take control. I hope you understand what I mean.

As an example I will say this. There is another game made by a trans girl with a asian female protagonist. And the female MC has female perspective. That Dev understand the female perspective of things either if she wanna give in to corruption or if she wanna lead her own sexual and career.

I am not trying to offend anyone. Even if she (EVA) is a woman. Her perspective on her 2 vns, having a female character as MC is totally from a male point of view.

You are right that is your opinion and to me it's wrong and I think Eva understands the "female perspective" and portrays it as well as any other dev does. You seem to have decided already what you think and that's ok I guess.

"100% from a male point of view they can't. I've read many of this kind of books written by women (Erotic Novels). SO Eva is the only one who can."

you didn't just write that.. No one can, not even the men, because no "perspective" is the same.

 

[Badboll]

Why do you want to know that? You don't ask her body count to a girl ever

I mean it's important for sure. It's not the first question you ask someone though.
Most guys statistically don't want to be with women in a relationship when they've had too many dicks.
That's just how it is. Not sure why he wants to know cindy's though.

 

[HolyMolly]

Can't believe Eva went from creating crazy, unexpected and exciting situations with GGGB to this: a generic pornhub scene generator. Pretty much every character is a young top model, every scenes and relationships are boring and predictable.

The visuals and overall production is great, but gadamn this is as boring as it can get. big yikes for me...

 

[Gicoo]

Not that I agree with the take that Ian is a pussy no matter the route, but there are official NPC stat cards.

Of course, the more atheletic guy is not going to win a fight 100% of the time, and these NPC cards are from way earlier in the story. Someone like Jeremy is also training, probably more than Ian, so he's gonna improve his abilities which already started at a higher point.

Those NPC cards are dope. Are there more for all the other characters? Can someone post them?

 

[desmosome]

Her writing and graphics are amazing, don't get me wrong. But one thing I dislike in her vns is the way it kind of forces you to corrupt the girl. She can't just have a normal health relationship, she can't be the boss of her life. This is what I feel most of the time when I play Lena. There was a game I used to play before they started remaking it, The female character had total control if she wanted to be corrupted if she enjoyed to give in control or just control her own sex life and job etc. I think we need something like that other then the woman having to submit to males everytime if they want to succeed.

Ummm... you don't have to corrupt her lol. It's obviously a shortcut to financial stability if she sells herself, but that's up to you. If you do corrupt her, you have complete control over how much she is ok with the situation. She can be very enthusiastic about the Seymour deal. She is the one pursuing Jeremy and Mike. Robert is a simp for her. She doesn't want to get over Axel. Her Skullfap is something she enjoys. Where does she lose control?

For Seymour and Axel, she also has the routes where she is less comfortable to appeal to the people that want a more exploitative dynamic.

And she CAN have a normal healthy relationship with Ian and reject all the slimy assholes. I'm sorry that she doesn't win a lottery in this route and become a multi-platinum artist overnight.

You want some "made for women" type of story about feminism and female empowerment? Regardless of whether Eva is a woman or not, the predominant audience for porn games is male. Successful games are gonna appeal to the male audience. And the majority (obviously not all) of the male audience wants to see a female protag corrupted in a female protag game. Of course, this game has a dual protag and expands the potential audience to the more self insert male MC type of players, but there is no reason Eva would completely abandon what worked in GGGB.

The fact is, this is a game where each MC has a bunch of potential partners. If you don't like some (or all) of the potential partners, the game isn't a perfect fit for you. Others enjoy the offered options. I don't know why people always fail to understand the basic concept that you can't have unlimited routes in games unless the dev can work on the game for 200 years in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber or something.

 

[desmosome]

Those NPC cards are dope. Are there more for all the other characters? Can someone post them?

It's there for all characters. I already closed the window though... You can find them by scrolling down (way down) in the patreon. They are public posts so you will eventually find them.

 

[fatpussy123]

It took a day. The new chapter has been released for a day and all the crusty weirdos flooded back into this thread to complain about how their Ian jerks it to Jeremy and can't get it up or about how their Lena is a hypocrite slut.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

And what difference will those stats make? Having stats in a game also mean NPCs has them too albeit hidden ones, so let's say Ian has 8 points in Strength, Jeremy or Axel will definently have higher points then him cause you know obvious reasons. Stats or not as of right now, Ian is weaker thn Jeremy, Axel and Mike.

Jeremy, Axel and Mike, all have a massive incentive to work out hard, because looking buff is such a big positive in each of their chosen jobs. Whereas for Ian, as a prospective author, it's not such a big deal. For him, it's more or less just a hobby. Why would he spend a lot of his free time working out, when he needs to devote most of it to writing his first novel?

 

[Enfrize]

no, it was confirmed some time ago that there will be no surgery / enhancement. Perhaps in an epilogue / ending, but no dedicated path.

Thats... disappointing, to say the least. Would love to see Lena getting some proper implants but I guess that would mean paying more to the artist x)