VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 Alpha] [Eva Kiss]

[rj677]

Not only a polls, there is such a thing. Eva said that fans asked her to "redesign Stan" to make him a more likeable and meaningful character and to give him a route. She herself admitted that she did not like Stan.

Wait a minute... I thought that she reworked Stan because she didnt like how he turned out/he wasnt doing much .
I even thought that when people said that, that they meant it has a joke because of the whole "hes like most F95 users meme" . I didnt know this was the reason

Before knowing this I was neutral to Stan, in the sense that him being there or not not being there doesnt make any difference for me... But now I dislike him even more .

To think that Eva changed a whole character of her own story just to please some people really makes me sad and angry at the same time... Not only because it changed Evas plans, but also because of the potential wasted for other characters who were already interesting and well designed to begin with and that just "needed some love".

The main issue for me is that it happened and not the fact that it was Stan who got it. But going on the assumption that it happened already, the choice of Stan feels "wrong" .

 

[Marley300]

He would've if he had one

EDIT: He didn't even once tried to adjust his pants whenever Lena was dropping a show in front of him

Seymour - Ivy
He don't have Dick!

You know that would explain why he’s such a douche… Seymour Butz is an asshole because he’s compensating for something…

 

[dolfe67]

Wait a minute... I thought that she reworked Stan because she didnt like how he turned out/he wasnt doing much .
I even thought that when people said that, that they meant it has a joke because of the whole "hes like most F95 users meme" . I didnt know this was the reason

Before knowing this I was neutral to Stan, in the sense that him being there or not not being there doesnt make any difference for me... But now I dislike him even more .

To think that Eva changed a whole character of her own story just to please some people really makes me sad and angry at the same time... Not only because it changed Evas plans, but also because of the potential wasted for other characters who were already interesting and well designed to begin with and that just "needed some love".

The main issue for me is that it happened and not the fact that it was Stan who got it. But going on the assumption that it happened already, the choice of Stan feels "wrong" .

I don't think stan's "rework" changed much outside his appearance. But I don't play his route and never will, I don't like it.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Wait a minute... I thought that she reworked Stan because she didnt like how he turned out/he wasnt doing much .
I even thought that when people said that, that they meant it has a joke because of the whole "hes like most F95 users meme" . I didnt know this was the reason

Before knowing this I was neutral to Stan, in the sense that him being there or not not being there doesnt make any difference for me... But now I dislike him even more .

To think that Eva changed a whole character of her own story just to please some people really makes me sad and angry at the same time... Not only because it changed Evas plans, but also because of the potential wasted for other characters who were already interesting and well designed to begin with and that just "needed some love".

The main issue for me is that it happened and not the fact that it was Stan who got it. But going on the assumption that it happened already, the choice of Stan feels "wrong" .

That's Eva problem. Too vulnerable to the fans opinion. And given that this is a genre of porn games, there are a lot of virgins with social problems in the audience.
The developer should tell his story, not the one that a group of people requires.
Also, Eva has a problem with writing some characters, especially male ones, that they are not interesting personalities and are only two-legged dildos for Lena.
Anyway, welcome to Stan's haters club. There are already quite a few of us.

 

[Xupuzulla]

Ok now that the poll is over i want to say thanks to everyone who voted for Stan!
We proved once again how popular he is with the community

 

[SerHawkes]

He's not. Keep dreaming and drinking the incel kool aid though.

 

[| Vee |]

If EK has a path for Holly with Stan than I truly hope IVY teaches Holly how to use a strap-on. Let this mofos ass bleed.
HAIL IVY!

 

[ffive]

Eva should've made him a smarter coomer. Stan is a dumbass and doesn't deserve respect. Not for being a coomer. But for being caught being a coomer.

That's the general problem with the post-nut clarity: it only occurs after the nut.

 

[Doppelgang]

So her core audience likes Stan and Eva talks like she's going to please them. Eva herself admitted that she didn't like this character. It feels like Eva is no longer developing the game according to her vision, but is trying to satisfy the crowd by making fan service. It is not good.

Eva said that fans asked her to "redesign Stan" to make him a more likeable and meaningful character and to give him a route.

To think that Eva changed a whole character of her own story just to please some people really makes me sad and angry at the same time...

Correct me if I’m wrong, because there’s literally hundreds of Patreon posts and I might’ve missed something, but I’m pretty sure Eva has never said anything about fans asking her to redesign Stan, and that being the reason for the rework?

When the rework was

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, Eva wrote:

The truth is, I don't like him. And I don't really know what to do with him in the narrative. When I created him, I thought it would be interesting to add this character trope into the game, since GGGB didn't have anyone like him, and I wanted to try to explore new character dynamics. But the truth is Stan ended up being just that: a trope of a character, and I felt all his interactions with Lena were shallow and didn't fit the rest of the game. And it's time to fix that.

That sounds like she didn’t like the old Stan, and therefore made som adjustments to him, which is an obvious thing to do if you’re dissatisfied with a character in your story, unrelated to what the game’s followers think of him.

And in the comment section of yesterday’s Patreon post:

I like to know what my audience thinks, but ultimately I have my own vision and I always follow that. However, I try to give people what they like, of course

That doesn’t sound like “no longer developing the game according to her vision” to me.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Correct me if I’m wrong, because there’s literally hundreds of Patreon posts and I might’ve missed something, but I’m pretty sure Eva has never said anything about fans asking her to redesign Stan, and that being the reason for the rework?

When the rework was

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, Eva wrote:



That sounds like she didn’t like the old Stan, and therefore made som adjustments to him, which is an obvious thing to do if you’re dissatisfied with a character in your story, unrelated to what the game’s followers think of him.

And in the comment section of yesterday’s Patreon post:



That doesn’t sound like “no longer developing the game according to her vision” to me.

Yes, this is one of those posts, word for word about the fact that she doesn't like Stan but she wants to fix him. But there was also a post that "the fans asked for more Stan", but I can't say for sure whether it was a repost from Patreon or her Discord (I'm subscribed to Discord) I want to hope that the last words are really what she thinks and feels. The importance of maintaining your vision is the most important thing when creating a story. The only exception in my opinion is to ask for advice from a fellow experienced writer if you have a creative block.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

Anyway, we've got a good group of people who don't like Stan here on the F95. Patreon has fallen, taken over by a dark, creepy Incel evil. But maybe we can at least defend the F95? Stan will not pass!
SerHawkes
| Vee |
rj677

There was an idea... to bring together a group of of remarkable people to see if they could become something more. To see if they could work together when we needed them to, to fight the battles that we never could.

 

[| Vee |]

I just have 1 thing to say to all of you:

#RejectStannyEmbraceFreedom

AWAKE F95zone's people!!!

You are in the matrix
Matrix has brainwashed you all
IF you want to see reality
Take The Red Pill
BUT
If you take Blue Pill
You will fall into the depth
Depth of Chaos

 

[Oliver Wendell Homely]

Anyway, we've got a good group of people who don't like Stan here on the F95. Patreon has fallen, taken over by a dark, creepy Incel evil. But maybe we can at least defend the F95? Stan will not pass!
SerHawkes
| Vee |
rj677

There was an idea... to bring together a group of of remarkable people to see if they could become something more. To see if they could work together when we needed them to, to fight the battles that we never could.
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Initially, Stan seemed just like a shy IT nerd. I loved the idea of having Lena tease and provoke him. Now he's revealed himself to be an incel, yes, but I feel more pity for him than anything else right now. He clearly just doesn't understand how romance works and he's probably not much better with people who are just friends, either. I'm still curious to see where EvaKiss takes his story, if anywhere.

 

[Geralt From Rivia]

I just have 1 thing to say to all of you:

#RejectStannyEmbraceFreedom

AWAKE F95zone's people!!!

You are in the matrix
Matrix has brainwashed you all
IF you want to see reality
Take The Red Pill
BUT
If you take Blue Pill
You will fall into the depth
Depth of Chaos

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Such a sweet moment of unity against a common evil...and I ran out of reactions.
~
If there some incel
In your neighborhood
Who you gonna call?
STANBUSTERS!

If there someone weird
Creeping on your girl
Who you gonna call?
STANBUSTERS!

I aint afraid of no Stan...

Initially, Stan seemed just like a shy IT nerd. I loved the idea of having Lena tease and provoke him. Now he's revealed himself to be an incel, yes, but I feel more pity for him than anything else right now. He clearly just doesn't understand how romance works and he's probably not much better with people who are just friends, either. I'm still curious to see where EvaKiss takes his story, if anywhere.

That's the problem. Eva exposes the IT community in a very unflattering light, representing it as such a person as Stan. And of course I am a supporter of the idea "The developer should follow his vision", but this is an exceptional case when Eva can ask advice from MF_DOOM on the development of Stan's storyline. He has a lot of ideas about this, I'm sure.

Okay if seriously and without jokes, I just like memeing Stan, he is such a ridiculous character that I just don’t get tired of joking about this.
I don’t know what development can be given to him, he doesn’t change at all, and if Lena was kind to him, then he plunges even deeper into his wormhole. It feels like the only option is to say "yes" and babysit him. Hell, even Perry evolves and changes if you push him and in Chapter 11 he becomes a nice character. Holly too, was a typical nerd but can change in different! directions depending on the route. But Stan, Jeremy and Wade seem to be frozen in time. And if I can feel sympathy for Wade and still hope to give him a magical kick, then here I just don’t want to do it.

 

[Jacey.ci]

Finally gave Allison's path a try and meh... It wasn't all that. She was trying a lil too hard to get with Ian while giving other dudes attention..But to each their own. Same with Robert, he was doing a little too much so I had Lena reject him. Sorry not sorry.

 

[mommysboiii]

The game development is the vision of the author, not the fans, if Eva starts making changes to please others (in this case, the incels who feel sorry for Stan and see themselves in him) then the story loses its original intent.

first of all I dont really think that people that like stan are incels hello?? I am more a axel,jeremy,macel guy for obvious reasons but I think that comment is so weird I mean I like for example shooter games but I dont like killing in real life mate or for exampe I like other weird sex kinks that I would absolutly not like in real life its a bit weird to think if you like a cheracter X (game of thrones.......), kink X that you are person x,y in real life hello????logic???

character attractive

I kinda like that not every cheracter looks like axel and to be honest I have no idea why people like stan could be 3 things in my opinion

1.they love a sweet love story with holly/stan , lena/stan

2.they want that stan gets compelty cucked/humiliated

3. or they want this creepy,stealing underwear ,jerk in them, blackmail kinda cheracter

I have no idea which one the big mayority likes to be honest so for eva it will be hard to find out which one the fans want??? so maybe she should just do the thing that she has in her mind

That game is very good in its own way, but many of us expect something different from ORS.

this is absolutly not true and this is not what the votes show at all

macel,jeremy (bbc fetish), stan not really sure about this one because not really sure if they vote for stan for the creep or for the sweet love story so I let him out , axel absolute gugachad steal your girl kink, old rich grandpa absolute corruption/blackmail ......

and than you look at the female votes which are the coutner parts axel/cindy, macel/holly, alison/jeremy......... and than gillian with no content that high YES PEOPLE absolutly want corruption and kinky things and def not vanilla story this was never the thing people wanted at all with ors it was a corruption story from the beggining just a more realistic/ slow burn corruption story with more chapters and build up but DEFINITLY A CORRUPTION STORY

look at the data mate

 

[Jacey.ci]

Quick question... How do I set the path for a possible Holly, Ian, Lena threesome?

 

[yuvce]

Quick question... How do I set the path for a possible Holly, Ian, Lena threesome?

Ian not on Lena or Holly's routes.

 

[mommysboiii]

That game is very good in its own way, but many of us expect something different from ORS.

Luckly EvaKiss doesn't base her story on those polls. Her patrons are strange, to say the least. Putting the entitled brat and the walking dildo as favorites...

dont talk about queen cindy like that

and the walking dildo has a AMAZING scene with alison/ian/walking dildo outperform our boiii you should try that exquisite scene 11/10 if you are a cuck gourmet like me EXQUISITE bravo eva!!! bravoo!!!!

 

[lipe2410]

Quick question... How do I set the path for a possible Holly, Ian, Lena threesome?

It's uncler yet since IanxHollyxLena threesome still didn't happen.
MAYBE the best set could be: Ian and Lena in a experimental/open relationship while both still catch feelings for Holly too