VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 Alpha] [Eva Kiss]

[MaliPizdek]

nah... it's not
ppl do mean things for the fun of it, not for the narrative sense

 

[Sethmsf]

Both are npcs slaves to the narrative sense that EK gives them, one of the virtues of ORS is precisely that, that it has a fairly solid narrative

 

[MaliPizdek]

so the only thing we could get is a few of her selfies and hope she doesn't fuck anyone (romance path)
are Lena or Cherry gonna be there?

 

[Sethmsf]

I don't know what we can expect, but having Axel send pictures of Cindy to Ian, I'm sure he won't.

 

[slave_boy]

Romance path,blonde bimbo path,all Alison paths are great.
Best girl,if you hate Alison you hate fun.

absolutely. I pretty much play this game for the romance path with her. it's so good that I don't even feel like trying with the other girls. she has everything, smoking hot, doesn't act like a dependant, gives you the feeling of being in love and her scenes are amazing. Ian would be a colossal fool to let her go.

 

[JoJoPool]

I honestly don't care about the recycled assets in the new scenes if it means faster releases.
I mean how many different drawing do you really need for the same sex positions?

If everyone had to choose between brand new assets in each update vs faster releases, the majority of people would pick faster releases.

Why don't players ever get bored of IanxLena despite them having a scene in almost every chapter ? It's because every scene has its own art/illustrations and that makes each one unique and different. Imagine if Eva kept re-using old images for the majority of IanxLena scenes, I guarantee you nobody will be looking forward to their content because they'll be bored, It's like re-watching a movie for the nth time. If Eva becomes excessive in re-using old assets then every scene will feel the same and the game will lose its spice and let's not forget that this is a porn game so sex scenes are the most crucial and important element of it.
In short it's the anticipation of something hot and new that keeps players playing and asking for more, Recycled content will take that anticipation away. You have to ask yourself would i bother spending time playing this just to see something I've already seen ?

 

[JoJoPool]

I wonder how many people liked the tourney.
For me it was frustating.

Regarding the fighting mechanics i found them okay tbh, it's just a simple high skill high reward system. If you have really high kickbox/jiujutsu + athletics skill points then you'll win effortlessly.
After trying it with different stats on each save i found that the higher my stats the higher the chance my attacks will land, If my stats are average then the guy i'm fighting will block/counter most of the time which makes winning a real struggle.
There is no specific set of choices that you have to make in order to win, I had a save where Ian pretty much mastered kickboxing and i would win by just randomly switching between dodging and attacking (there's even a combo option which is cool!).
I think what the tounament really needs is something that makes it stand out, like a unique background (with a ring and spectators and some lights too), it's using the gym background which makes the fight seem like a regular sparring match, Eva could also add some cheering crowd sounds and a bell ring when every round begins and ends to make it more realistic, I didn't feel like i was in a tournament at all during the fight!
From the re-used assets and the lacking tournament Eva clearly rushed this prologue, I wish she took more time with it. Fortunately she can go back and fix this in the final build, let's hope she does that.

 

[gabri1899]

Anyone have a save for Allison/Ian romantic?

 

[Sethmsf]

Regarding the fighting mechanics i found them okay tbh, it's just a simple high skill high reward system. If you have really high kickbox/jiujutsu + athletics skill points then you'll win effortlessly.
After trying it with different stats on each save i found that the higher my stats the higher the chance my attacks will land, If my stats are average then the guy i'm fighting will block/counter most of the time which makes winning a real struggle.
There is no specific set of choices that you have to make in order to win, I had a save where Ian pretty much mastered kickboxing and i would win by just randomly switching between dodging and attacking (there's even a combo option which is cool!).
I think what the tounament really needs is something that makes it stand out, like a unique background (with a ring and spectators and some lights too), it's using the gym background which makes the fight seem like a regular sparring match, Eva could also add some cheering crowd sounds and a bell ring when every round begins and ends to make it more realistic, I didn't feel like i was in a tournament at all during the fight!
From the re-used assets and the lacking tournament Eva clearly rushed this prologue, I wish she took more time with it. Fortunately she can go back and fix this in the final build, let's hope she does that.

On other occasions there have been changes in scenes, new ones appearing, others disappearing and some other modification between the alpha version and the final one.

Reusing images in general is not cool, but I think you can reach a middle ground by reusing a few mixed with several new ones to have more agility in publication without losing so much originality, it is not ideal but maybe it can work.

In the end, we are judging the car before it is finished painting and upholstering it, its an Alpha version after all

 

[JoJoPool]

On other occasions there have been changes in scenes, new ones appearing, others disappearing and some other modification between the alpha version and the final one.

Reusing images in general is not cool, but I think you can reach a middle ground by reusing a few mixed with several new ones to have more agility in publication without losing so much originality, it is not ideal but maybe it can work.

In the end, we are judging the car before it is finished painting and upholstering it, its an Alpha version after all

That is why I'm hoping the final release will offer a better experience, It's not too late to polish the prologue and make some fresh illustrations for a few scenes

 

[bleachedturtle]

Why don't players ever get bored of IanxLena despite them having a scene in almost every chapter ? It's because every scene has its own art/illustrations and that makes each one unique and different. Imagine if Eva kept re-using old images for the majority of IanxLena scenes, I guarantee you nobody will be looking forward to their content because they'll be bored, It's like re-watching a movie for the nth time. If Eva becomes excessive in re-using old assets then every scene will feel the same and the game will lose its spice and let's not forget that this is a porn game so sex scenes are the most crucial and important element of it.
In short it's the anticipation of something hot and new that keeps players playing and asking for more, Recycled content will take that anticipation away. You have to ask yourself would i bother spending time playing this just to see something I've already seen ?

You can speak for yourself. I don't get bored of IanxLena because of the writing. The writing can make the scene super hot even when you're just looking at a static 2D image, which is actually just a traced screenshot with some coloring.

There are plenty of games of much better sexier graphics but people keep coming back to this game for the writing, drama, and engaging characters.

I agree that recycled scenes will quickly become boring, but I don't see anything wrong with reusing assets when the writing can change the context of the scene.

 

[Sethmsf]

Totally agree with the writing, engaging and drama. In fact, it is precisely the writing that made me bet IanxLena as a route in my main game and leave the rest for experimentation routes

That is why I'm hoping the final release will offer a better experience, It's not too late to polish the prologue and make some fresh illustrations for a few scenes

has to go through beta polishing for 7-10 days and then another polish for the final version, it won't change the entire prologue but it can add enough details to make it feel fully satisfactory or this is my hope xD

 

[JoJoPool]

You can speak for yourself. I don't get bored of IanxLena because of the writing. The writing can make the scene super hot even when you're just looking at a static 2D image, which is actually just a traced screenshot with some coloring.

There are plenty of games of much better sexier graphics but people keep coming back to this game for the writing, drama, and engaging characters.

I agree that recycled scenes will quickly become boring, but I don't see anything wrong with reusing assets when the writing can change the context of the scene.

Well to each their own, to me the art is the most important then comes the writing after all this a sex game not a book, it has to be visually pleasing! I tell you i never knew i wanted a JessxIan scene until i saw it! (one of my favorite scenes in the game actually).
Just to clarify I'm also somewhat okay with reusing assets IF it's kept to a minimum but let's face it Eva did go overboard with old illustrations this prologue, just take a look at the Cindy scene. This made me concerned because i don't want her to make a habit out of it.

 

[mommysboiii]

he does...
why do they have to be friends?
he knows Cindy has a BF and he sees Ian has a hots for her, why not send him a hot pic to provoke him

that would be hot banter and actually a 5head move to provocate ian into doing some stupid stuff and get jelouse if he calls cindy which would be a bad idea

 

[mommysboiii]

I understand that your fetish may be to humiliate Ian, but the Cindy x Axel tandem is not going to do that. It doesn't make narrative sense.

do you even play the game and read the dialouge ?? it 100% does make sens and is teased all the time with axel almost touching cindy pussy and provocate ian

axell and ian have competition he is kinda the MAIN antagonist in game next to rich grandpa

than you have the monologe of ian where he is like it feels like hyenas sorround cindy (prob axel ,ian ,wildcats guys)

than you have cindys naive character that really wants to be famouse/center of attention

than you have lenas moniologe where she is like axel is always drama and cindy has no idea what she is getting into if you dont warn her

and so on.........

so it makes 100% sens narrativly

 

[Sethmsf]

do you even play the game and read the dialouge ?? it 100% does make sens and is teased all the time with axel almost touching cindy pussy and provocate ian

axell and ian have competition he is kinda the MAIN antagonist in game next to rich grandpa

than you have the monologe of ian where he is like it feels like hyenas sorround cindy (prob axel ,ian ,wildcats guys)

than you have cindys naive character that really wants to be famouse/center of attention

than you have lenas moniologe where she is like axel is always drama and cindy has no idea what she is getting into if you dont warn her

and so on.........

so it makes 100% sens narrativly

Read and played and no, it still doesn't make any narrative sense that Axel sends photos of Cindy to Ian. Do you think so? Go ahead, we'll see who the future agrees with xD

 

[mommysboiii]

Read and played and no, it still doesn't make any narrative sense that Axel sends photos of Cindy to Ian. Do you think so? Go ahead, we'll see who the future agrees with xD

ok so eva accidentally wrote all this dialogue by accidents I guess

I dont know if axel send pics put there will def be POTENTIAL drama depends on your decissions and axel will not stop that ians is ALMOST in a relationship with her

 

[Sethmsf]

ok so eva accidentally wrote all this dialogue by accidents I guess

I dont know if axel send pics put there will def be POTENTIAL drama depends on your decissions and axel will not stop that ians is ALMOST in a relationship with her

No one has discussed the potential drama, nor the problems that will arise, what I have denied is sending photos and I will continue to do so

 

[KiraJames]

Lena's wonderful hypocrisy. Kissing Holly is an almost unforgivable crime because she's her friend, but she's okay with giving Jeremy a handjob

and i love her for it, we need more female protag like this

 

[Leongen43]

and i love her for it, we need more female protag like this

I love the corrupt, unfaithful Lena, without codes and with a false sense of guilt who always goes for more. If Ian needs money, could he work as one of Santa Claus's reindeer this Christmas?