GokutheG

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My Ian started to get sick of Alison for some reason. Is it Cindy's route that influenced this? I still think Alison is the best partner for him, and Cindy is just for fucking, lol.
Being with Cindy causes Ian to get off Alison's love route even if Ian isn't serious about Cindy.
 

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I updated my walkthrough to v10.4 to include Chapter 11 Prologue content. You can get it here (Will be available on Patreon in a week):

For those curious about my personal news, here's a post that goes a bit into what I've been up to:

I also made Chapter 10 walkthrough free: download here
 

Maviarab

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I updated my walkthrough to v10.4 to include Chapter 11 Prologue content. You can get it here (Will be available on Patreon in a week):

For those curious about my personal news, here's a post that goes a bit into what I've been up to:

I also made Chapter 10 walkthrough free: download here
Not wanting to step on any toes here or upset/offend anyone but to clarify:

1. You're charging for a walkthrough?
2. It's not even up to date?
 
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Not wanting to step on any toes here or upset/offend anyone but to clarify:

1. You're charging for a walkthrough?
2. It's not even up to date?
Of course I'm charging for the most recent version. The old version then becomes free. It's work. I'm writing a guidebook that is over 300 pages. And fixing most of the bugs in ORS. And keeping most of the storylines in my head so that Eva Kiss isn't lost in their own writing and the plot holes don't become so big the whole narrative stops making sense. I'm not going to waste my time and put so much effort without getting something out of it. If I didn't, I would have moved on like a year ago because doing a single thing for almost 4 years is too much. The cost of doing it outweighs the benefits. I keep investing my time into it still because I know I have 6 people willing to support me and I don't want to let them down.
 

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When Lena breaks up with Ian in chapter 10 because he pushes for sex twice (and they never had sex), she still has the choice to let him film her stalkfap content. This seems an oversight, since she shuts him off in every other way and they are very awkward for the rest of the game. She shouldn't have the option to let him film in this case.
 
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When Lena breaks up with Ian in chapter 10 because he pushes for sex twice (and they never had sex), she still has the choice to let him film her stalkfap content. This seems an oversight, since she shuts him off in every other way and they are very awkward for the rest of the game. She shouldn't have the option to let him film in this case.
there are bad writings in some parts. Some dialogs are not aligned with scenes.

For example I have never had sex with Cindy in one of my playthrough. I mean back alley sex behind the bar after Wade birthday. I haven't done it. I only did it first time until very late, it was in Ian's home I think or Wade's home Idk.

And the dialogs were something like this "I liked it when you fucked me before"

But Ian have never had sex with Cindy before so why that dialog is there?
 

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I think it will really heat up as Seymour has Lena exhibit herself in increasingly depraved ways. With Ian also as his protege, Seymour may bring Ian in as a second puppet and turn the Lena/Ian relationship into a putrid affair as Ian is instructed to manipulate Lena for a leering audience....further heating when Agnes takes over as controller....and of course the climax when Lena is taken alone overseas to Dubai where the Emirs will take over.
I think his real reason for helping Ian, is so he can threaten to end his career as an author, if he tries to hold on to Lena or tries to turn her against him. Seymour probably knows that Ian and Lena have some kind of close relationship or friendship, and he views Ian as a potential threat to his plans for Lena, particularly if she has feelings for him. So he's creating leverage over Ian, by getting heavily involved, in what he views as Ian's main weakness, his overwhelming desire to become a successful writer.

He obviously thinks, that when faced with a choice, between succeeding as an author, or holding onto Lena, Ian will make the former choice. And I think he believes this, because he can't comprehend how anyone with a real ability to be highly successful in any given endeavour, would put love before success, money and the power that it can bring. I think he firmly believes that with the right leverage, he can make Ian do what he wants, which will be to give up Lena for success and adulation as an author. And perhaps actively persuade Lena, that her best course of action, is to go along with whatever Seymour suggests.

That's why he asks Ian, how far he's prepared to go, to be successful. And if Ian replies, that he'll do anything ( not realising the true implications of what he's agreeing to), Seymour is extremely pleased.
 
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I think his real reason for helping Ian, is so he can threaten to end his career as an author, if he tries to hold on to Lena or tries to turn her against him. Seymour probably knows that Ian and Lena have some kind of close relationship or friendship, and he views Ian as a potential threat to his plans for Lena, particularly if she has feelings for him. So he's creating leverage over Ian, by getting heavily involved, in what he views as Ian's main weakness, his overwhelming desire to become a successful writer.

He obviously thinks, that when faced with a choice, between succeeding as an author, or holding onto Lena, Ian will make the former choice. And I think he believes this, because he can't comprehend how anyone with a real ability to be highly successful in any given endeavour, would put love before success, money and the power that it can bring. I think he firmly believes that with the right leverage, he can make Ian do what he wants, which will be to give up Lena for success and adulation as an author. And perhaps actively persuade Lena, that her best course of action, is to go along with whatever Seymour suggests.

That's why he asks Ian, how far he's prepared to go, to be successful. And if Ian replies, that he'll do anything ( not realising the true implications of what he's agreeing to), Seymour is extremely pleased.
I think your analysis would be apt if this was a soap opera, but I think it lacks the erotic quality needed for a porn game. But our forecasts are not mutually exclusive. Mine does involve Ian giving up Lena as a love interest, but going yet further to aid in intensifying her sexual exploitation by allowing himself to be directed by Seymour and his designees to do things to Lena that no boyfriend would ever do to a girl that he loves. It might even influence Ian's literary pursiuts with regard to genre.
 

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When Lena breaks up with Ian in chapter 10 because he pushes for sex twice (and they never had sex), she still has the choice to let him film her stalkfap content. This seems an oversight, since she shuts him off in every other way and they are very awkward for the rest of the game. She shouldn't have the option to let him film in this case.
I did reach that scenario and while I agree it seems a bit contradictory, it does reinforce the concept of "blueballing" a cuckold Ian if you will excuse the reference. I do remember a "huh?" moment when I reached it. But I chose it anyway. In this (my most recent play) I have Lena being really mean to Stan which I have never done before. It feels strange.
Also during this play, I got many alerts of "gallery unlocked!" without actually seeing the related sex scenes. What does that mean?
 
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When Lena breaks up with Ian in chapter 10 because he pushes for sex twice (and they never had sex), she still has the choice to let him film her stalkfap content. This seems an oversight, since she shuts him off in every other way and they are very awkward for the rest of the game. She shouldn't have the option to let him film in this case.
Is that on the cuck route, because I don't recall Lena being reticent to have sex with Ian on the non-cuck route? And if they're on the cuck route, Lena increasingly desires Ian to be obedient, and just please her. And then if he does, she rewards him with a handjob or oral sex. So if he's demanding to have sex, he's kind of opposing the new unspoken rules of their relationship, where she's now wearing the trousers. I've never come across the content you're referring to, because I've always had Ian submit to Lena on that route.

I do know, that if you have Ian object to Stalkfap after the gig at the Garrison, Lena doesn't let him get involved in it. And asks other people, like Mike or Stan instead. So that would suggest, Ian didn't object on your playthrough. So are you saying, that Ian is on the cuck route, where he can no longer have sex with Lena, but if he never objects to Stalkfap, he's allowed to film her on the Sunday and then have sex with her, as occurs in the non-cuck route content? If that's the case ( and I don't know, because on my playthrough of this content, he did object), then I agree, it's probably a bug. Because Ian shouldn't be able to have penetrative sex with Lena, once the cuck route begins.
 
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