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Make it a threesome with Ian, Lena, and Ivy, and it'll be infinitely better.
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Did she say that in the Q&A??? Great
.... Having her have the "hots" for Ian for 2 chapters just for that stupid 3some with Ian and Lena (stupid in some routes mind you) . I hope theres at least a chance for a IanxLouise path *Fingers crossed*Make it just Ian and Ivy and it'll be PERFECT. No way my man Ian is gonna have to share that Pole Dancing Goddess with Lena
. Lena already had a scene with Ivy and she didnt invite Ian, so IanxIvy all the way . Maybe WAY down the line Lena can join 
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The best thing about that soap opera is the option to tell Axel to go to hell after the trap photo session, that dialogue gave me years of life.
You're under delusion Ian is going to have any say in this matter, as opposed to Ivy simply adding another pet to her harem, after Lena.Make it just Ian and Ivy and it'll be PERFECT. No way my man Ian is gonna have to share that Pole Dancing Goddess with Lena
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Not on Chad Ian path my friend, not on Chad Ian path. Ian already showed Ivy what he expects from her when he choked her during wrestling.You're under delusion Ian is going to have any say in this matter, as opposed to Ivy simply adding another pet to her harem, after Lena.
There is no correct release date yet but you can expect this week or next week for sure
- Apr 25, 2020
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Ivy is an exclusive LI to LenaNot on Chad Ian path my friend, not on Chad Ian path. Ian already showed Ivy what he expects from her when he choked her during wrestling.
Ahh, but this doesn't really mean anything outside of the mat. He can "expect" whatever he wants, but Ivy strikes me as someone who'd just render him a next Bobbit if he tried to dictate things in bed. And especially if he tried to keep Ivy away from Lena, who is pretty clearly Ivy's real person of interest.Not on Chad Ian path my friend, not on Chad Ian path. Ian already showed Ivy what he expects from her when he choked her during wrestling.
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For now! Let us live our dream!Ivy is an exclusive LI to Lena
Also their are too many variables of IanxIvy especially after the choice of
v11_ivy_openup=True andv11_ivy_flirt=True so, all hope is not lost! Check below attached spoiler!I absolutely agree that Ivy is most interested in Lena But that's a plus for Ian as it will be easy for him to mingle with Ivy as Ivy is already involved with Lena and with Lena also opening her cards to have threesomes other than Louise, that's a win for Ian already. Also, after their talk in this scene I think coin may toss in Ian's side IF HE IS LUCKY by lucky I mean If EK let it happen otherwise Ivy will remain lesbian/virgin and will have an ending with Lena of some sort.
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The bad thing about this is that it didn't start this way.
Up till around episode 7 or 8, there were a lot more meaningful character interactions. Since then it has gone down the "appease the fetishist route" which is fine, but I feel like I was duped into getting into the game with the promise of a good melodrama with great character relationships. It's got to the point where the story is unsatisfying. I love the art and find it endlessly fappable, but that's not what brought me on board.
Art is worse, characterisations are worse (they, like ORS lean on archetypes heavily, but they are much thinner in GGGB, each character serves a single purpose, they are very basic as a result), plot is equally loosey goosey.
The sexual scenarios are better, but you cannot make a value judgement on something that is mostly subjective, because by the few objective metrics you can point out between them, ORS is superior.
Do I think I will be as fond of ORS in the end? No. But I also don't think I can make the statement that GGGB is a much better AVN. I enjoyed it more (so far, ORS isn't finished but I am not confident it will stick the landing at all given the last few episodes), but when I think of metrics like art and robustness of character, it is a lesser game.
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Well, I never understood people who use "art" as a metric to evaluate any games, but when its used to evaluate 2 games made by the same dev its when I just get confused
.The more time passes, the more the devs learn and more upgrades in software and hardware come out... So, ORSs art being better than GGGBs to me was a given and it is obvious. Look at other devs and you will definitely see a difference for the better in the art/renders/animations department in subsequent games .
An example in AAA games: GTA 5 has better "art" than GTA 4 but thats solely because of the time difference of their release. But story wise, almost everyone agrees that GTA 4 is WAY better. I dont have an opinion of GGGBs story because I simply havent played that game enough to bring anything to the table in terms of story
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- May 18, 2022
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That's literally what we all play these games for LUL
You want story go read 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea.
It is a given that she is better, you're right. You presenting it like you're arguing with me when you're taking the same stance. You've also completely mischaracterised what I said so you could do a "gotcha".Well, I never understood people who use "art" as a metric to evaluate any games, but when its used to evaluate 2 games made by the same dev its when I just get confused
The more time passes, the more the devs learn and more upgrades in software and hardware come out... So, ORSs art being better than GGGBs to me was a given and it is obvious. Look at other devs and you will definitely see a difference for the better in the art/renders/animations department in subsequent games .
An example in AAA games: GTA 5 has better "art" than GTA 4 but thats solely because of the time difference of their release. But story wise, almost everyone agrees that GTA 4 is WAY better. I dont have an opinion of GGGB because I simply havent played that game enough to bring anything to the table in terms of story
ORS has a professional colorist and Eva Kiss has better linework from her experience. It is an example of an objective factor in the presentation. The fact I have to clarify the minutiae because I used the term "art" as a catch all is really fucking annoying.
ORS and GGGB are visual novels. So of course the art and the writing are going to be the most important aspects. The art is obviously better in ORS, I don't think many people would contest that. Writing wise it's more subjective. GGGB had more focus on fetish elements, corruption, and darker themes. Those were it's positives, it's negatives were mainly with its reliance on stereotypes and one dimensional characters. ORS isn't as heavy on the dark elements, but uses a lot of the same stereotypes as GGGB, but builds upon them with more characterization.
Tyrone is the BBC fetish stereotype? Jerome is too, but is also the friend of Ian, a guy with little backbone that leads to him messing with Louise and potentially pursuing the girl his friend has an eye on. Jack is the chad stereotype? So is Axel, but he is insecure, manipulative, the ex of one of the MCs, and a minor antagonist to the other MC. You get the point how ORS builds upon GGGBs stereotyped characters.
The last thing where the writing is different is the inclusion of Ian. He is not only a love interest for the female MC, but also an MC himself. EKs patrons don't seem to be fans of him as much as they are of Lena. Personally I prefer ORS, I like the characters more, the art more, and I don't notice any dip in quality for the writing during sex scenes. I also prefer Ian over Lena, so that might play a role into it and make me biased in a certain direction.
Tyrone is the BBC fetish stereotype? Jerome is too, but is also the friend of Ian, a guy with little backbone that leads to him messing with Louise and potentially pursuing the girl his friend has an eye on. Jack is the chad stereotype? So is Axel, but he is insecure, manipulative, the ex of one of the MCs, and a minor antagonist to the other MC. You get the point how ORS builds upon GGGBs stereotyped characters.
The last thing where the writing is different is the inclusion of Ian. He is not only a love interest for the female MC, but also an MC himself. EKs patrons don't seem to be fans of him as much as they are of Lena. Personally I prefer ORS, I like the characters more, the art more, and I don't notice any dip in quality for the writing during sex scenes. I also prefer Ian over Lena, so that might play a role into it and make me biased in a certain direction.
- Mar 1, 2023
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No, This is why YOU play these games.
For me, I like hand drawn art, some good realistic sex scenes and a good story with it.
If I didnt care about the story, what is the point of playing a VN? I would just watch some porn and be done with it.
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Here is the exciting continuation of our September 2023 Q&A with EvaKiss Summary Series. She hasn't responded to the remaining questions in the last few days, and the questions are getting a bit repetitive, so this may be the finale.
Previous summaries were here and here.
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22) She strongly implied that there won’t be incest in this game (ORS).
23) Eva is planning on writing future sexy scenes with Jessica but can’t say for future scenes with either Nat or Gillian, implying no immediate and concrete plans for them as it comes to sex scenes.
24) Bimbo Alison will show up more.
25) Eva envisions doing the long epilogue style endings for ORS like she did with GGGB.
26) Ivy is primarily intended as a major character in Lena’s story, but Eva plans to have Ivy be more involved with Ian’s narrative “down the line”.
27) When asked if she would start implementing wilder or more hardcore scenes in ORS, like in GGGB, Eva responded that she intends to build up the spiciness of the scenes in ORS but wants to keep the story semi-realistic.
Previous summaries were here and here.
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22) She strongly implied that there won’t be incest in this game (ORS).
23) Eva is planning on writing future sexy scenes with Jessica but can’t say for future scenes with either Nat or Gillian, implying no immediate and concrete plans for them as it comes to sex scenes.
24) Bimbo Alison will show up more.
25) Eva envisions doing the long epilogue style endings for ORS like she did with GGGB.
26) Ivy is primarily intended as a major character in Lena’s story, but Eva plans to have Ivy be more involved with Ian’s narrative “down the line”.
27) When asked if she would start implementing wilder or more hardcore scenes in ORS, like in GGGB, Eva responded that she intends to build up the spiciness of the scenes in ORS but wants to keep the story semi-realistic.