Leongen43

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Ian in my game has literally 2 coins in his pocket, and this is only because he won the pool game bet early on and didn't give up on the stipend from dad.If he did, he'd be very much broke right now. So, no, i can't say i share this view that he is "always swimming in cash", it definitely doesn't feel like it.
So if you had the option of him posing naked and Ian becoming a prostitute or having a contract similar to the one Lena has but with Agnes, would you accept so that Ian would have more money? :unsure: :unsure::LOL:
 

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So if you had the option of him posing naked and Ian becoming a prostitute or having a contract similar to the one Lena has but with Agnes, would you accept so that Ian would have more money? :unsure: :unsure::LOL:
I doubt Ian's Stalkfap would receive much attention, but if he was pressed for money similar to Lena can be then sure, if there's no alternatives for him?
 

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Ian in my game has literally 2 coins in his pocket, and this is only because he won the pool game bet early on and didn't give up on the stipend from dad.If he did, he'd be very much broke right now. So, no, i can't say i share this view that he is "always swimming in cash", it definitely doesn't feel like it.

For the record, Ian's options to spend money:

* paying for drinks during date with Cindy in Ch.3 ($1)
* bribing the bouncer in Ch.5 ($1)
* trip with Alison in Ch.9 ($2)
* footing the bill during date with Alison in Ch.9 ($1)
* clothes in Ch.9-10 ($1 per outfit, up to $4 total)
* access to Lena's Stalkfap Pro in Ch.10 ($1)
* good wine for Alison date in Ch.10 ($1)
* trying to pay for sex with bad Jess in Ch.10 ($1)
* tournament fee in Ch.11 ($1)
Buy a gift for your romantic interest Ch.12 ($1)
Buy fireworks Ch. 12 ($1)
Pay for food and drinks for the beach house Ch. 12 ($1)

And the opportunities to earn money beyond work, stipend and even two games of pool (you lose one of them if you go to the gym to train with Ivy) are zero.
 

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I doubt Ian's Stalkfap would receive much attention, but if he was pressed for money similar to Lena can be then sure, if there's no alternatives for him?
There could be other options but it's a porn game like that because you would choose boring options when you can choose hot and fun options, I always thought that if Agnes did the same thing as Seymour with Lena it would be interesting to see, how much would Ian's personality and appearance change if that happened? :unsure: :unsure:
 

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Ian in my game has literally 2 coins in his pocket, and this is only because he won the pool game bet early on and didn't give up on the stipend from dad.If he did, he'd be very much broke right now. So, no, i can't say i share this view that he is "always swimming in cash", it definitely doesn't feel like it.

For the record, Ian's options to spend money:

* paying for drinks during date with Cindy in Ch.3 ($1)
* bribing the bouncer in Ch.5 ($1)
* trip with Alison in Ch.9 ($2)
* footing the bill during date with Alison in Ch.9 ($1)
* clothes in Ch.9-10 ($1 per outfit, up to $4 total)
* access to Lena's Stalkfap Pro in Ch.10 ($1)
* good wine for Alison date in Ch.10 ($1)
* trying to pay for sex with bad Jess in Ch.10 ($1)
* tournament fee in Ch.11 ($1)
Perhaps swimming in cash is an overexageration on my part, but all of those spendatures you listed are recent developments. Again, 4 of them are exclusive to Allison content, and none of it is required unless you're specifically trying to romance her. I honestly forgot about bribing Marcel since I've never once had an issue with either his Charisma or Intellect being too low to resort to a bribe. Also the tournament fee will only lose Ian money if Ian isn't a good fighter, which I guess some players can stumble their way into thinking they're good enough to spend money, but haven't commited enough time to the training. He should be winning that money and more back.

Lena has a much higher earning potential, because she can get in with Seymour, but she has far more things to spend it on consistently than Ian does. It balances out to some extent, but I think Eva added a lot of Ian's spending recently because most Ian playthroughs had nothring for him to spend money on once you bought the outfits.
 

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Yes there is, but EvaKiss was not interested in doing it, that's why Lena has many more options than Ian in the story, that's why I always have the feeling that Lena is the protagonist and Ian is a sub-protagonist in the story, not even the tattoos, it would be seen male with a tattoo of two cherubs on his nipples? :unsure: :LOL:
It's good when Ian gets Lena jealous with Lena's ex-boyfriend girlfriend, and then Lena goes on vengeance streak.
 

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Perhaps swimming in cash is an overexageration on my part, but all of those spendatures you listed are recent developments. Again, 4 of them are exclusive to Allison content, and none of it is required unless you're specifically trying to romance her.
Note, though, that my playthrough doesn't involve Alison romance and Ian is still near-broke (he didn't do any spending on the bouncer or bad Jess etc) It is basically very easy for Ian to be completely out of money with just generic approach, and on certain routes he won't even be able to afford some stuff.

He doesn't have that many spending opportunities, this is true, but he also doesn't have many earning opportunities. If EK only gives him ways to spend money he has no way to earn, then it'll go tits up for him pretty quick.
 
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There could be other options but it's a porn game like that because you would choose boring options when you can choose hot and fun options, I always thought that if Agnes did the same thing as Seymour with Lena it would be interesting to see, how much would Ian's personality and appearance change if that happened? :unsure: :unsure:
I believe it would be more erotic if Agnes joined with Seymour on controlling Lena and intensifying the experience.
 
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That is cruel no matter what culture, ..... :unsure:
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. But would you not concede that you are perhaps being just a tad judgmental? Or perhaps you are making the unwarranted assumption that the situation is non-consensual. :unsure:
 

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Note, though, that my playthrough doesn't involve Alison romance and Ian is still near-broke (he didn't do any spending on the bouncer or bad Jess etc) It is basically very easy for Ian to be completely out of money with just generic approach, and on certain routes he won't even be able to afford some stuff.

He doesn't have that many spending opportunities, this is true, but he also doesn't have many earning opportunities. If EK only gives him ways to spend money he has no way to earn, then it'll go tits up for him pretty quick.
Ian presumably has two big income spikes coming up shortly though, much like Lena did if she commits to Seymour's path. Winning the tournament, and his promotion at Heirophant. Unless I'm forgetting something, he only risks not getting the promotion at Heirophant if Lena initially accepts Seymour's proposal and then backs out or he picks the wrong books for publication. Although it might be a bit later, there is also presumably the sale of his novel.
 
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I believe it would be more erotic if Agnes joined with Seymour on controlling Lena and intensifying the experience.
It would be more interesting if Ian participated in some way too, I never saw Seymour as exerting control over Lena but rather he is teaching her to free her mind through the pleasure and excitement that Seymour gives her using his techniques that he obtained with his experience accumulated during years
 

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You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. But would you not concede that you are perhaps being just a tad judgmental? Or perhaps you are making the unwarranted assumption that the situation is non-consensual. :unsure:
If the act were to save a life or improve it I would not see it as a cruel act but if it is for sexual satisfaction I do consider it cruel and unnecessary, but as you said it is my opinion or if it were Stan maybe :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :LOL:
 

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It would be more interesting if Ian participated in some way too, I never saw Seymour as exerting control over Lena but rather he is teaching her to free her mind through the pleasure and excitement that Seymour gives her using his techniques that he obtained with his experience accumulated during years
In my view, the erotic nature is more from his exerting control as if she were a play doll. Lena's mind is already too free to start with for my tastes; I wish I could prevent her from using the anal plug in her masturbation scenes. But your view will probably gain more traction as the games intensify and add to the erotic nature that I find appealing.
 

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If the act were to save a life or improve it I would not see it as a cruel act but if it is for sexual satisfaction I do consider it cruel and unnecessary, but as you said it is my opinion or if it were Stan maybe :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :LOL:
*sigh* what is with the anti-Stan attitude here? Actually, my first play had Lena having him do a photo shoot of her (after she caught him masturbating to previous pics he took of her) and then having him arouse himself and ejaculate over her during the second photo shoot. I thought it was a bit hot.
 

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In my view, the erotic nature is more from his exerting control as if she were a play doll. Lena's mind is already too free to start with for my tastes; I wish I could prevent her from using the anal plug in her masturbation scenes. But your view will probably gain more traction as the games intensify and add to the erotic nature that I find appealing.
I have nothing against Stan (if against Perry), I just have fun as if he were Lena's cuckold husband and I imagine scenarios where I have fun with him only, I only feel pity for him because he is surrounded by beautiful women who want nothing to do with him. him with the exception of Lena, like beta-cuck maybe? :unsure: :LOL:
 

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I doubt Ian's Stalkfap would receive much attention, but if he was pressed for money similar to Lena can be then sure, if there's no alternatives for him?
You would be surprised about that, don't forget the gay community, the cougar community, the horny housewives and what not more, and he isn't bad looking, wouldn't say he is a greek god, but he sure has a good body and nice dick, so he could have some succes.
 

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Ian presumably has two big income spikes coming up shortly though, much like Lena did if she commits to Seymour's path. Winning the tournament, and his promotion at Heirophant. Unless I'm forgetting something, he only risks not getting the promotion at Heirophant if Lena initially accepts Seymour's proposal and then backs out or he picks the wrong books for publication. Although it might be a bit later, there is also presumably the sale of his novel.
Don't forget if Ian doesn't make it through Seymour due to Lena's ignorance to him, there is still the guy from the book fair who offered him a job and also a way to promote his book through independent magazine that not in control of Seymour, Seymour just thinks himself powerfull, but guys who take to much power eventualy fall down and lose everything, because upsetting to many common folks works against you.
 
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