VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 FULL] [Eva Kiss]

[Xupuzulla]

I have the impression Eva likes her characters too much

Understatement of the fucking year LMAO!

 

[camube]

A different angle on the question "Why is Holly working for Minerva when she is a successfull writer?" is that her second book could fail and without employment and further education she has no income. Holly is doubtfull of her abilities, so not relying on her second book would be in-character.

Since Eva adores Holly and everyone (Victor, her publisher, her fans) expect that her second book will be a success, I wager that Holly stays successfull, if only as a reward for her shitty privat life.


Branching from that, another topic occured to me. GGGB was great in giving extremely diverse endings. Characters could end up very successfull, but also get devastating fates. Arthur could be a millionair or die in prison, Eva could have the love of her life or commit suicide or be imprisoned, Jessica could redeem herself and be in a happy relationship or end up as a drug addicted prostitute unable to get her life together.

Currently I doubt that ORS manages to make such diverse developments and endings for its characters. Holly seems to be set up for success regardless if Ian and Lena care for her or not. She can get them as partners or even Mark, Marcel, Clark or Stan if the player doesn't link her with Ian or Lena. There is no currently no indication that she could end up broken because she was cheated on and she could fail in her career. Maybe her next books are shit if she is abused or is too busy fucking around, but there is no indication that this could be the case, the sexual empowerment is suggested to be good for her.

Its similar with Ivy. Jessica had highs and lows, flaws. Ivy seems successfull in her career and there is no indication that she has issues with men and relationships. Its hinted once or twice, but unless we get some drastic reveals and twists, I don't see Ivy ending up poor, drug addicted and alone. Even if Lena and Ian shun her, she is still successfull at Blazer, the gym, Stalkfap, and likely with Billy.

I have the impression Eva likes her characters too much and doesn't give them hardships like in GGGB.

isn't the direction of Billy's character is to make porn (ruining things for Ivy)?

 

[atrebor68]

isn't the direction of Billy's character is to make porn (ruining things for Ivy)?

Uhm. Interesting idea put some porn movie in.
who should be the girl(s) involved ?

 

[Sethmsf]

isn't the direction of Billy's character is to make porn (ruining things for Ivy)?

That is a possibility that we all believe is true, but from what the guy says it seems like he is serious about the modeling agency and maybe that's it (at least at first), on the other hand, it seems that a career in porn It would have a more natural beginning in stalkfap itself, so we'll see what happens; What is clear is that not all the opportunities that are presented to Lena can be corrupt opportunities or the game would lose its fun.

 

[| Vee |]

...What is clear is that not all the opportunities that are presented to Lena can be corrupt opportunities or the game would lose its fun.

Really hope that is true BUT do you really think EK will Bring a Former game character into ORS, giving storyline, such importance AND not let him smash while filming. I DOUBT THAT! Especially as he is Jeremy's childhood friend(IIRC). She has plans for Billy that much is obvious and I ain't getting any Pope vibes from him specially as we know he DID a MFM earlier in-game.

 

[Blurpee69]

If Lena was smart, she would make Lola have pups and then sell the kittens as a betrayal detector. Would it be a good wedding anniversary gift?

Offspring of cats aren't pups, they're known as kits.

Currently I doubt that ORS manages to make such diverse developments and endings for its characters. Holly seems to be set up for success regardless if Ian and Lena care for her or not.

ORS is generally more grounded than GGGB was. That being said, I think Holly absolutely can still fail. We've seen how much of an influence Ivy is having on her; even if Lena starts to back off by chapter 11 in the showers, Holly questions why Lena didn't participate rather than question if what she was doing was indecent. Ivy has also been doing molly and smoking. Do you think that, especially if Lena is also participating, that Holly might not start to get distracted and fail at her writing if she starts to follow them?

Its similar with Ivy. Jessica had highs and lows, flaws. Ivy seems successfull in her career and there is no indication that she has issues with men and relationships. Its hinted once or twice, but unless we get some drastic reveals and twists, I don't see Ivy ending up poor, drug addicted and alone. Even if Lena and Ian shun her, she is still successfull at Blazer, the gym, Stalkfap, and likely with Billy.

I have the impression Eva likes her characters too much and doesn't give them hardships like in GGGB.

I mentioned it above in the Holly segment, but Ivy has been seemingly doing quite a bit of molly. Lena even questions her the second time around about her increasing usage. Eventually that will affect her work at Blazer and the gym, likely pushing her even further into Stalkfap and whatever it is that Billy is cooking. Ivy also has a much more porngraphic Stalkfap account than Lena, which again puts her on a similar path to Jessica from GGGB. All versions of Jessica mention that Ivy is going to burn out at some point and that she (Jess) is speaking from experience.

 

[Leongen43]

Really hope that is true BUT do you really think EK will Bring a Former game character into ORS, giving storyline, such importance AND not let him smash while filming. I DOUBT THAT! Especially as he is Jeremy's childhood friend(IIRC). She has plans for Billy that much is obvious and I ain't getting any Pope vibes from him specially as we know he DID a MFM earlier in-game.

Lena could do scenes like the ones in GGGB if we don't accept Seymour's offer or break the agreement, because let's face it, no one would be surprised if we have the option in the future, if Lena starts in porn while she is dating Ian and doesn't tell him When your videos appear, will Ian's horns appear at the same time or will we have to wait until he has 100,000 views for them to appear?

 

[0tt0von]

ORS is generally more grounded than GGGB was. That being said, I think Holly absolutely can still fail. We've seen how much of an influence Ivy is having on her; even if Lena starts to back off by chapter 11 in the showers, Holly questions why Lena didn't participate rather than question if what she was doing was indecent. Ivy has also been doing molly and smoking. Do you think that, especially if Lena is also participating, that Holly might not start to get distracted and fail at her writing if she starts to follow them?



I mentioned it above in the Holly segment, but Ivy has been seemingly doing quite a bit of molly. Lena even questions her the second time around about her increasing usage. Eventually that will affect her work at Blazer and the gym, likely pushing her even further into Stalkfap and whatever it is that Billy is cooking. Ivy also has a much more porngraphic Stalkfap account than Lena, which again puts her on a similar path to Jessica from GGGB. All versions of Jessica mention that Ivy is going to burn out at some point and that she (Jess) is speaking from experience.

Some promiscuous sex and molly would probably benefit Holly's writing and lots of famed writers smoked. Someone doing too much molly and getting e-tarded aint great but it aint a meth or opioid addiction either or even as bad late stage alcoholism, so on the drug front the stakes seem much lower in ORS than GGB.

 

[Samuel Hidayat]

Cindy's path is definitely the riskiest for Ian, I agree with that. As for being the most interesting character... idk, she strikes me as Ashley 2.0. Both being unsatisfied with their current relationship and where they are in their life and being tempted to take new opportunities presented to them. To me, it doesn't seem like Eva's turned a corner or anything of the sort. Just regurgitating some of the writing used for Ashley.

Ashley also has the option to being completely fine the current status quo, so comparing her to Cindy—who is always dissatisfied—is apple to orange.

Objectively, Cindy's path is too much trouble for almost no reward, as you've explained. So because of how much Ian loses when following her path, that's why I think it's the riskiest. Alison, however, is unquestionably my least favourite Ian option. Yandere bitch who's obviously baby trapping him if he's ignored her for too long. I'm hoping he can cut ties with her down the line.

Ironic, because if Ian pays a lot of attention to her and creampies her too much, she'll eventually make condom a necessity.

And attempting to sabatoge Ian's relationship with Lena, even though Ian's other friends have been supportive of them. Holly says she's happy for them, Emma says it, Jeremy says "if you're happy, then I'm happy, Perry and Wade seem cool with it, even Cherry, who Lena hates, says to Ian she's happy for them. Alison's got no excuses. Her inability to work up the courage to express how she feels for Ian in high school, isn't on him.

Wait, pretty sure if Ian goes exclusive with Lena and automatically breaks up with Alison, he can't pursue her anymore. Unless the variables and triggers have been changed, I don't see her trying to sabotage IanxLena.

I never understood Seymour, he literaly buys every single house, apartment, workplaces up, then he turns up all the rent to impossible to pay for everyone on top all the workplaces he own you have to work at low rate payments, that somehow feels to me a disaster for him, because noone would be able to live in his town Baluart and he should then name the town Failurart.

It's not for the poors, but for the few elites and foreign investors. It's also a debt trap for future generations wanting to have a house, but can't afford to just rely on their budget.

 

[HammerStrike]

New user here: if I update Ver. 12 from Ver. 9, are all my saves lost ?

 

[varpep]

I would like Eva to add more flavor text to the tournament fight. I was able to knock my opponent out in the first round which seemed to be a great deal for me but not for Wen and Jeremy apparently since they never mention it. I was also able to beat him up without taking any damage. Rival_hurt was at 3 and Ian_hurt was 0 yet he still complains to Jeremy after the fight exclaiming he is going to be sore tomorrow. I also dominated him on the score cards 10-5 so it was kinda disappointing when Wen and Jeremy still say the generic dialogue when I knock him out. Wen still says it was a close fight and Jeremy said I did well enough on the score cards to get the win. I would like Eva to take these factors into account and add more flavor text.

 

[HammerStrike]

No. Not at all. You can update without losing your saves.

Thanks !

 

[saltynip]

New user here: if I update Ver. 12 from Ver. 9, are all my saves lost ?

depends, are your saves from chapter 9 are the pre-remaster Chapter 9 or the Remaster Chapter 9?
If they are from pre-remaster, then you need to start a new game because lots of variables were changed after remaster, you can load the pre-remaster save, but, somewhere along the way, you'll get errors.

 

[Sethmsf]

Really hope that is true BUT do you really think EK will Bring a Former game character into ORS, giving storyline, such importance AND not let him smash while filming. I DOUBT THAT! Especially as he is Jeremy's childhood friend(IIRC). She has plans for Billy that much is obvious and I ain't getting any Pope vibes from him specially as we know he DID a MFM earlier in-game.

Yes, I really hope so. That the situation with Billy could end in sex with him, a threesome with Jeremy or Ivy, even a foursome does not imply that the opportunity is not real and not an excuse for porn or prostitution, which is what I am referring to hahaha

As I said, we all suspect that the trip may be an excuse for that, I really hope that there are real opportunity es fo modelling without shady business that may or may not end in sex with other people

 

[Eastin]

Is there anything good that happens if you choose to hook up with Holly at the fair? Everyone and everything is miserable. I only played for 15min because i hated how everyone broke up with each other. Please tell me if something positive comes out of that, i don't care about spoilers.

 

[Sethmsf]

Is there anything good that happens if you choose to hook up with Holly at the fair? Everyone and everything is miserable. I only played for 15min because i hated how everyone broke up with each other. Please tell me if something positive comes out of that, i don't care about spoilers.

If you've been dating and fucking Lena and then at the fair you fuck Holly, you don't get anything good, you lose both. The only good thing is the contact with Victor, but you can still get that without fucking Holly xD

If you haven't had dates and sex with Lena, then yes, hooking up with Holly at the fair serves as the beginning of a relationship with her

 

[bigdickdonaldduck]

Wait, pretty sure if Ian goes exclusive with Lena and automatically breaks up with Alison, he can't pursue her anymore. Unless the variables and triggers have been changed, I don't see her trying to sabotage IanxLena.

IIRC she can actually invite you back to her place even if you broke up with her for Lena, it happens after you go to the art gallery and she's bimbofied herself with blonde hair and whorish clothes.

 

[Sethmsf]

IIRC she can actually invite you back to her place even if you broke up with her for Lena, it happens after you go to the art gallery and she's bimbofied herself with blonde hair and whorish clothes.

Alison? No, in the current final version, if you have been dating her and then you break up, she is very angry and doesn't invite you anymore. She does it if you have never been with her or if you have only hooked up once. What you say it happened before, but apparently with this latest update they have given her a little respect for herself and she no longer does it.

 

[bigdickdonaldduck]

Alison? No, in the current final version, if you have been dating her and then you break up, she is very angry and doesn't invite you anymore. She does it if you have never been with her or if you have only hooked up once. What you say it happened before, but apparently with this latest update they have given her a little respect for herself and she no longer does it.

You sure, it might be I was on her path, and then I ended up going for Emma instead, so she got banged by Jeremy, and that's how it happened. Though, I haven't played the latest version so you're probably right.

 

[Sethmsf]

You sure, it might be I was on her path, and then I ended up going for Emma instead, so she got banged by Jeremy, and that's how it happened. Though, I haven't played the latest version so you're probably right.

In that particular situation I think it does happen since you have abandoned her before the "Alison & Ian dating" trait is activated, which occurs when you finish the blazzer outing with her instead of Emma.