VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12.3 FULL] [Eva Kiss]

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Leongen43 said:
Which thread would you be in and which thread would I be in?:unsure:
Will we still be in the same thread?:unsure:
The face palm man, which thread would he be in?:unsure:
Could there be a serious thread of sexual fetishes and fantasies?:unsure:
Could there be a thread to talk bad about Axel/Axelia? :unsure:
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I would be in the nonserious thread; you would be in both. You would be in the serious one due to your views on Axel.
 
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I think the most hard done to person in this game is Robert. He's nowhere near as bad, as a lot of people make him out to be. He genuinely wants to be Lena's boyfriend, and he pretty much worships the ground she walks on. He just has this one issue with Perry early on, which Ian takes exception to. But to be fair, Perry often does some pretty daft stuff, and was just as drunk as Robert was at the time, and equally at fault. People who are drunk often do daft things, but it doesn't make them into bad people. Plus that was a pretty bad evening for Robert, having just been beaten up by Axel, after he defended Lena.

Ian totally overreacts and literally labels Robert as scum, on the basis of one poor drunken decision.
 
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First of all, I NEVER support cheating as I believe both person involved in relationship should communicate and end things if are done with eachother rather than cheating unless it is their kink/fetish(just mentioning so you don't think I support cheating or base a "false narrative" of me).

Now coming to the difference between Ian and Jeremy,



Are you sure HE(Ian) is driving wedge between them!:WaitWhat:

In case of Ian WadexCindy are already on the verge of breakup while in Jeremy's case he knew that Ian is in love with Lena and is looking forward to go to next stage of there relationship. You can see Wade is not changing his ways to keep Cindy and is doing even worse for himself and the path he is choosing is most risky and TIME COMSUMING.

Another thing IMO none of them(Ian or Jeremy) is less than the other in terms of cheating whether they are weak-willed potato potayto or strong-willed opportunistic. All three of them are Bros together and are from high school IIRC. So IMO saying that one is better/worse than the other is absurd idea to begin with. There is no comparison. CHEATING IS CHEATING! BETRAYEL IS BETRAYEL! Period!
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You can call it what you want, but Ian exploits the situation to his advantage. We know in hindsight that Wade and Cindy are going to split up. But Ian doesn't know that. He suspects things are not going well between them, but he can't know that they wouldn't eventually work it out. But he can and does make sure that they dont. There's no way you can deny, that Ian doesn't betray his best friend, because he does. The main difference between Ian and Jeremy, is that Ian ultimately wants to split Wade and Cindy up, so he can have Cindy all to himself. Jeremy on the other hand, just wants a bit of fun. He's not trying to separate Ian and Lena, even if he believes their relationship is doomed.

The original posts that I was responding to, DID suggest that Jeremy's betrayal with Lena, was much worse than Ian's with Cindy. I was simply pointing out why I believed that was untrue. Personally, I don't believe Jeremy intentionally sets out to betray Ian. He's pretty much led there by Lena, until his weakness for pussy, undermines his better nature. Surely, you can see that Lena instigates everything. And without that, Jeremy would never have succumbed. Is Jeremy weak? Yes he is. But does he intentionally set out to betray his best friend? No he categorically doesn't. You can't say the same for Ian, with Cindy. He knows exactly what he's doing. Like Lena he's the instigator. He pursues Cindy, when she's at her weakest, after her row with Wade at the club. He knows this is his chance. And he ruthlessly takes it.

And for your information, I don't support cheating either. I just like playing games that involve cheating. You do recognise, that there's a major difference, between actually doing something and playing fantasy games involving it instead? I've killed literally millions of people in fantasy games, but so far nobody in real life.
 
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Zara Scarlet said:
You can call it what you want, but Ian exploits the situation to his advantage. We know in hindsight that Wade and Cindy are going to split up. But Ian doesn't know that. He suspects things are not going well between them, but he can't know that they wouldn't eventually work it out. But he can and does make sure that they dont. There's no way you can deny, that Ian doesn't betray his best friend, because he does. The main difference between Ian and Jeremy, is that Ian ultimately wants to split Wade and Cindy up, so he can have Cindy all to himself. Jeremy on the other hand, just wants a bit of fun. He's not trying to separate Ian and Lena, even if he believes their relationship is doomed.

The original posts that I was responding to, DID suggest that Jeremy's betrayal with Lena, was much worse than Ian's with Cindy. I was simply pointing out why I believed that was untrue. Personally, I don't believe Jeremy intentionally sets out to betray Ian. He's pretty much led there by Lena, until his weakness for pussy, undermines his better nature. Surely, you can see that Lena instigates everything. And without that, Jeremy would never have succumbed. Is Jeremy weak? Yes he is. But does he intentionally set out to betray his best friend? No he categorically doesn't. You can't say the same for Ian, with Cindy. He knows exactly what he's doing. Like Lena he's the instigator. He pursues Cindy, when she's at her weakest, after her row with Wade at the club. He knows this is his chance. And he ruthlessly takes it.

And for your information, I don't support cheating either. I just like playing games that involve cheating. You do recognise, that there's a major difference, between actually doing something and playing fantasy games involving it instead?
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I was shocked to see Jeremy's decision to stop Lena from removing his boxers because he thought about Ian and Lena's relationship. It takes a lot of self-restraint during that situation to think clearly. He upheld the bro code gracefully. Yeah, Lena has to push things to lead him on. If they do go further he feels so bad at the nightclub and outside the gym when he is talking to Ian. Even though he is a horndog he does have a moral compass sometimes.
 
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Zara Scarlet said:
You can call it what you want, but Ian exploits the situation to his advantage...
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I am just calling it as it is. "None of them is better than the other", that's what I'm calling it! What is it that you do not understand in it? I would be happy to help you understand it:)!
But you are clearly portraying Jeremy as less evil than Ian so, Here I go:

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...We know in hindsight that Wade and Cindy are going to split up. But Ian doesn't know that. He suspects things are not going well between them, but he can't know that they wouldn't eventually work it out. But he can and does make sure that they dont...
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You really think that the problems between WadexCindy are new? No! The game starts with them. They spent at the very least a few months with those problems. And WadexCindy know too that if things don't workout soon they will breakup as Ian do. You can see Cindy's started taking action to get things straight or end(Arranging birthday, get-togethers encouraging Wade to do/try other things). On the other hand Wade didn't do shit in response to Cindy's efforts. Dude is not even earning money IIRC. Birthday party was last straw that Wade broke.

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...There's no way you can deny, that Ian doesn't betray his best friend, because he does....
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And Where did I deny it? Both betrayed, Ian did dirty to Wade and Jeremy to Ian. None of them is better than the other.

Zara Scarlet said:
...The main difference between Ian and Jeremy, is that Ian ultimately wants to split Wade and Cindy up, so he can have Cindy all to himself. Jeremy on the other hand, just wants a bit of fun. He's not trying to separate Ian and Lena, even if he believes their relationship is doomed...
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Oh so Jeremy was helping IanxLena when he was just having "fun", my bad. You don't simply fall in pussy cut the crap! I can say same that Ian was also having a bit of fun, he was not trying to separate WadexCindy, even if Ian believes their relationship is doomed. No matter how you try to JUSTIFY Jeremy, but the truth is Jeremy did at the very least same damage to IanxLena as Ian did to WadexCindy.

But I dare and say that Jeremy did more damage compared to what Ian did to WadexCindy as IanxLena were not on the verge of breaking up but just gotten together in a relationship. Now how will you justify this?

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...The original posts that I was responding to, DID suggest that Jeremy's betrayal with Lena, was much worse than Ian's with Cindy. I was simply pointing out why I believed that was untrue. Personally, I don't believe Jeremy intentionally sets out to betray Ian. He's pretty much led there by Lena, until his weakness for pussy, undermines his better nature. Surely, you can see that Lena instigates everything. And without that, Jeremy would never have succumbed. Is Jeremy weak? Yes he is. But does he intentionally set out to betray his best friend? No he categorically doesn't. You can't say the same for Ian, with Cindy. He knows exactly what he's doing. Like Lena he's the instigator. He pursues Cindy, when she's at her weakest, after her row with Wade at the club. He knows this is his chance. And he ruthlessly takes it.
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Still doesn't disprove the fact. I can say same about Ian he was weak in that moment too(birthday party)and now he can't make himself quit same as Jeremy couldn't tell Ian bcz he is WEAK;)!

Cindy was weak in her emotions, she was craving support, care both emotionally and physically And where was Jeremy weak, in his dick? I said it before and will say it again "You don't simply fall in pussy". And tell me again why did Jeremy didn't tell Ian, I am sure there was plenty of time for him to say to Ian "Bro you girl is throwing fishing nets on me!", he didn't tell shit to Ian. Even Ian was feeling guilty after mingling with Cindy. Being Guilty doesn't change the fact that he is a cheater same as Jeremy.

Being Guilty doesn't do shit if you already committed the action as now your action cannot be reversed.

"None of them is better than the other"
Hope that helps you to understand:D:coffee:!

Peace!
 
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I was shocked to see Jeremy's decision to stop Lena from removing his boxers because he thought about Ian and Lena's relationship. It takes a lot of self-restraint during that situation to think clearly. He upheld the bro code gracefully. Yeah, Lena has to push things to lead him on. If they do go further he feels so bad at the nightclub and outside the gym when he is talking to Ian. Even though he is a horndog he does have a moral compass sometimes.
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I don't really like Jeremy betraying Ian, because ultimately they're best friends. On the surface, you'd think they were chalk and cheese. But the reality is, that they're real bros, and Ian can talk about stuff with Jeremy, that he just can't with say Perry. Their friendship is genuine, and they really want the best for each other.

Lena is not an innocent. Like Ivy she knows exactly how to play men, and make them do what she wants. Jeremy doesn't have her guile, and by the time they have sex, he's completely under her spell. So if you play her as a bad girl, it's 75% her leading Jeremy on. When you play that scene, you know Jeremy is going to regret it. Whereas Lena doesn't, because that's the moment she realises that her and Ian have no future together.
 
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I don't really like Jeremy betraying Ian, because ultimately they're best friends. On the surface, you'd think they were chalk and cheese. But the reality is, that they're real bros, and Ian can talk about stuff with Jeremy, that he just can't with say Perry. Their friendship is genuine, and they really want the best for each other.

Lena is not an innocent. Like Ivy she knows exactly how to play men, and make them do what she wants. Jeremy doesn't have her guile, and by the time they have sex, he's completely under her spell. So if you play her as a bad girl, it's 75% her leading Jeremy on. When you play that scene, you know Jeremy is going to regret it. Whereas Lena doesn't, because that's the moment she realises that her and Ian have no future together.
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They do make a solid bro team and Lena had the decency to not go into a serious relationship with Ian if she fooled around with Jeremy.
 
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They do make a solid bro team and Lena had the decency to not go into a serious relationship with Ian if she fooled around with Jeremy.
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Honestly, in a porn game, you expect values, hahahah, then especially from someone like Jeremy, I could understand from someone else but asking Jeremy to be corrected, it's like asking the Devil to become Holy. Ian too weak and kind, Lena the game slut.
 
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Luckily for me I chose never to pair Ian-Lena together, a relationship that had already failed from the start was foreseeable, other paths would be better.
 
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