VN Ren'Py Our Red String [Ch. 12 Full] [Eva Kiss]

[Gicoo]

I agree it seems impossible, but it is checked in the code so I've put it there.
There are so many flags/variables that if I try to "remove" the ones that might not apply I'll probably do more harm than good. I'll content myself to state the truth and let the reader figure the rest out.

Oh, that wasn't criticism regarding your walktrough. Just an observation, especially because it wasn't the first time I encountered a redundant Holly/Cindy flag.

Your FAQ seems godly, considering how it condensed the games complex branches in an eye-pleasing simplified overview. A perfect walkthrough would have some annotations whenever tricky decisions have to be made. E.g. pointing out that the third picture during Lena's first shoot is the best to please Danny. But this would snowball in revising the entire walkthrough and there needs to be some middleground to be found in thorough vs concise.

 

[ffive]

I agree it seems impossible, but it is checked in the code so I've put it there.
There are so many flags/variables that if I try to "remove" the ones that might not apply I'll probably do more harm than good. I'll content myself to state the truth and let the reader figure the rest out.

Yeah, with the number of flags the game has at its disposal it's not really a surprise some bugs might've slipped into the code and remain undetected until someone trawls through it with a comb and makes this kind of detailed flow charts.

 

[BloodyMares]

I agree it seems impossible, but it is checked in the code so I've put it there.
There are so many flags/variables that if I try to "remove" the ones that might not apply I'll probably do more harm than good. I'll content myself to state the truth and let the reader figure the rest out.

I'd appreciate it if you listed everything odd you found in the script that is very likely to be a bug, and pinged me. I'll make sure to report these thubgs to Eva or fix them myself if they don't require new / alternative dialogue.

 

[Samu Al Hydit]

New Walkthrough


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Another masterpiece by Eva Kiss, no one else I know can put so many branches in a single game. This was a lot of work but well worth it, so I hope you all enjoy it as well.


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Mr Bubu

Interesting. Despite the game's bountiful cheating scenarios, the code only consider these two as cheating:

• Lena fooling around with Mark and/or Mike while being Ian's GF
• Ian continuing his affair with Minerva while being Lena's BF

 

[camube]

Interesting. Despite the game's bountiful cheating scenarios, the code only consider these two as cheating:

• Lena fooling around with Mark and/or Mike while being Ian's GF
• Ian continuing his affair with Minerva while being Lena's BF

who is Mark again?

 

[lipe2410]

who is Mark again?

Ivy's friend (also a GGGB's character). Lena can blow him during Ivy's party

 

[ffive]

Interesting. Despite the game's bountiful cheating scenarios, the code only consider these two as cheating:

• Lena fooling around with Mark and/or Mike while being Ian's GF
• Ian continuing his affair with Minerva while being Lena's BF

I imagine Ian/Cindy situation will start to count as cheating sooner than later, if Ian keeps at it.

 

[Erectosaurus]

There will probably be a few new opportunities for both of them to cheat. Ian still has girls like Emma and Cherry that he could be fucking on the side and if Lena still has the "bbc" flag active then she might try something with Jeremy in a coming update. Curious to see what the consequences are.

 

[Dirtytreenaturd]

i agree no one cares about stan as there are more story and more people better than him idk why waste time on him

On the contrary, I like to see how Eva can make her main characters rationalize screwing fat slobs and undesirable people. All the other characters are boring because they aren't much different to every porn imo. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Solomon Grundy]

i agree no one cares about stan as there are more story and more people better than him idk why waste time on him

On the contrary, I like to see how Eva can make her main characters rationalize screwing fat slobs and undesirable people. All the other characters are boring because they aren't much different to every porn imo. Just my 2 cents.

I personally am not interested in this story line at all, but do absolutely take issue with blanket statements like, "no one cares about stan" because quite obviously some people do care. Not the least of which being the developer of the game, who spent time rewriting him to better fit her vision. While some people may not be happy with the delay that caused, there are demonstrably others who are happy about it.

PSA: Don't say, "No one cares about X" when what you mean to say is, "I don't care about X". These are different things.

 

[Samu Al Hydit]

There will probably be a few new opportunities for both of them to cheat. Ian still has girls like Emma and Cherry that he could be fucking on the side and if Lena still has the "bbc" flag active then she might try something with Jeremy in a coming update. Curious to see what the consequences are.

If you're talking about Ian and Lena cheating on each other, Cherry and Jeremy won't be available. Ian can't go far with Cherry while Lena has to choose between Ian or Jeremy.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

I personally am not interested in this story line at all, but do absolutely take issue with blanket statements like, "no one cares about stan" because quite obviously some people do care. Not the least of which being the developer of the game, who spent time rewriting him to better fit her vision. While some people may not be happy with the delay that caused, there are demonstrably others who are happy about it.

PSA: Don't say, "No one cares about X" when what you mean to say is, "I don't care about X". These are different things.

Agree. A big part of Eva's success/draw in her games is the plethora of paths that hit so many varying preferences. Though, fair enough, it's also a reason for the challenging development time, her following and resources would likely be a smaller fraction of what they are without that. Could all/most of those preferences have been hit in a more streamlined way with better planning from the beginning & more condensed archetypes? Sure. But a variety of fans all followed for their own reasons too and shouldn't be so easily ignored.

The dismissal of other preferences shown here often means "it wouldn't affect me, so she should just ditch/ignore that path because I don't like it." I don't care about Stan either, other than for some comic relief with old Stan, but he was one of the highest rated male characters in one of those polls a while back & Eva seems to think he was important enough to keep/rehash.

 

[SerHawkes]

to think he was important enough to keep/rehash

And what was rehashed? Other than the slight add-on of his interest in photography? Not a damn thing. Unless you want to add the laughable as fuck confession and claim 'I'd be better than Ian' if Lena is shacked up with Ian. But then again, polls can be one sided and should be taken with a grain of salt. The "reason" she "reworked" him was because she was, according to her, wasn't a fan of how Stan was written at the time. ... ... ... AND who exactly is the writer for him Eva? Oh, right... you.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

And what was rehashed? Other than the slight add-on of his interest in photography? Not a damn thing. Unless you want to add the laughable as fuck confession and claim 'I'd be better than Ian' if Lena is shacked up with Ian. But then again, polls can be one sided and should be taken with a grain of salt. The "reason" she "reworked" him was because she was, according to her, wasn't a fan of how Stan was written at the time. ... ... ... AND who exactly is the writer for him Eva? Oh, right... you.

You're latching onto one little part of my post though when I'm talking about dismissing a path as a whole. Defending a rehash wasn't really a big part of my comment. The Stan rework, sure, was clearly much more about Eva's personal satisfaction as a creator. But a lot of other items got reworked beyond Stan, several of which I personally liked (several of which I didn't). I can understand her need as a creator to be satisfied with her work, as much as it's our right to not like the changes or the time it took.

 

[SerHawkes]

You're latching onto one little part of my post though when I'm talking about dismissing a path as a whole. Defending a rehash wasn't really a big part of my comment. The Stan rework, sure, was clearly much more about Eva's personal satisfaction as a creator. But a lot of other items got reworked beyond Stan, several of which I personally liked (several of which I didn't). I can understand her need as a creator to be satisfied with her work, as much as it's our right to not like the changes or the time it took.

Sure, somethings being changed were nice (Jeremy now only getting a brief handy if he isn't with Louise anymore), but at the same time some changes don't make sense at all and should be questioned. Eva has done reworks without any sort of feedback to speak of or even asked for peoples thoughts on the matter, other than her inner circle most likely. Like Wade for example. Out of the blue Wade was reworked to having a job yet not being active in his relationship to now being jobless and not being active in his relationship and likely more at risk of Cinders breaking up with him. Did we really need that change? Not really, as the possible break up could very well have happened naturally with Wade having a job at the time with either them breaking up naturally or Ian and Cinders cheating. Much like the prologue as well, which was entirely fine to begin with, but did we get any mention or post saying she was going to change the prologue? No, we didn't.

My point being, feedback can be a good thing and can help sometimes with developers with certain things or quirks with characters. And sure, this is Eva's game and she can do whatever she wants. Yet to do reworks out the blue without any explaination other than 'I wanted to change X' without user feedback until it's pushed out can get you a lot of flak and issues from fans. Eva lacks in transparity at times, and it can back fire at times. While else would see many people here raise their hands and press the issue?

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Sure, somethings being changed were nice (Jeremy now only getting a brief handy if he isn't with Louise anymore), but at the same time some changes don't make sense at all and should be questioned. Eva has done reworks without any sort of feedback to speak of or even asked for peoples thoughts on the matter, other than her inner circle most likely. Like Wade for example. Out of the blue Wade was reworked to having a job yet not being active in his relationship to now being jobless and not being active in his relationship and likely more at risk of Cinders breaking up with him. Did we really need that change? Not really, as the possible break up could very well have happened naturally with Wade having a job at the time with either them breaking up naturally or Ian and Cinders cheating. Much like the prologue as well, which was entirely fine to begin with, but did we get any mention or post saying she was going to change the prologue? No, we didn't.

My point being, feedback can be a good thing and can help sometimes with developers with certain things or quirks with characters. And sure, this is Eva's game and she can do whatever she wants. Yet to do reworks out the blue without any explaination other than 'I wanted to change X' without user feedback until it's pushed out can get you a lot of flak and issues from fans. Eva lacks in transparity at times, and it can back fire at times. While else would see many people here raise their hands and press the issue?

I think you may be counterpointing the wrong person on this, unless the reply was just a way to get that opinion out. "I can understand her need as a creator to be satisfied with her work, as much as it's our right to not like the changes or the time it took." It's a forum. We're meant to share opinions. 100%. Feedback is important. You have a right to your concerns too and to voice them. This isn't (or shouldn't be) an "agree with Eva 100% all the time or you're out" fascist board. My only beef was where people routinely dismiss others' concerns or preferred paths to an excessive degree, so I'm actually with you on that one.

 

[Davkin]

Don't quite understand the controversy surrounding Stan. Stan isn't a bad character. He's just unattractive, overweight, and hides in a dark room masturbating. I imagine most guys on this forum are like that...

 

[BareMinimumMan]

Don't quite understand the controversy surrounding Stan. Stan isn't a bad character. He's just unattractive, overweight, and hides in a dark room masturbating. I imagine most guys on this forum are like that...

That's why I like him, He is literally me.

 

[dontcarewhateverno]

Don't quite understand the controversy surrounding Stan. Stan isn't a bad character. He's just unattractive, overweight, and hides in a dark room masturbating. I imagine most guys on this forum are like that...

I'll have you know my room is very well lit.

 

[dolfe67]

I'll have you know my room is very well lit.

RGB all over the room, am I right?