Maviarab

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I updated my walkthrough to v10.4 to include Chapter 11 Prologue content. You can get it here (Will be available on Patreon in a week):

For those curious about my personal news, here's a post that goes a bit into what I've been up to:

I also made Chapter 10 walkthrough free: download here
Not wanting to step on any toes here or upset/offend anyone but to clarify:

1. You're charging for a walkthrough?
2. It's not even up to date?
 
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BloodyMares

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Not wanting to step on any toes here or upset/offend anyone but to clarify:

1. You're charging for a walkthrough?
2. It's not even up to date?
Of course I'm charging for the most recent version. The old version then becomes free. It's work. I'm writing a guidebook that is over 300 pages. And fixing most of the bugs in ORS. And keeping most of the storylines in my head so that Eva Kiss isn't lost in their own writing and the plot holes don't become so big the whole narrative stops making sense. I'm not going to waste my time and put so much effort without getting something out of it. If I didn't, I would have moved on like a year ago because doing a single thing for almost 4 years is too much. The cost of doing it outweighs the benefits. I keep investing my time into it still because I know I have 6 people willing to support me and I don't want to let them down.
 

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When Lena breaks up with Ian in chapter 10 because he pushes for sex twice (and they never had sex), she still has the choice to let him film her stalkfap content. This seems an oversight, since she shuts him off in every other way and they are very awkward for the rest of the game. She shouldn't have the option to let him film in this case.
 
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When Lena breaks up with Ian in chapter 10 because he pushes for sex twice (and they never had sex), she still has the choice to let him film her stalkfap content. This seems an oversight, since she shuts him off in every other way and they are very awkward for the rest of the game. She shouldn't have the option to let him film in this case.
there are bad writings in some parts. Some dialogs are not aligned with scenes.

For example I have never had sex with Cindy in one of my playthrough. I mean back alley sex behind the bar after Wade birthday. I haven't done it. I only did it first time until very late, it was in Ian's home I think or Wade's home Idk.

And the dialogs were something like this "I liked it when you fucked me before"

But Ian have never had sex with Cindy before so why that dialog is there?
 

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I think it will really heat up as Seymour has Lena exhibit herself in increasingly depraved ways. With Ian also as his protege, Seymour may bring Ian in as a second puppet and turn the Lena/Ian relationship into a putrid affair as Ian is instructed to manipulate Lena for a leering audience....further heating when Agnes takes over as controller....and of course the climax when Lena is taken alone overseas to Dubai where the Emirs will take over.
I think his real reason for helping Ian, is so he can threaten to end his career as an author, if he tries to hold on to Lena or tries to turn her against him. Seymour probably knows that Ian and Lena have some kind of close relationship or friendship, and he views Ian as a potential threat to his plans for Lena, particularly if she has feelings for him. So he's creating leverage over Ian, by getting heavily involved, in what he views as Ian's main weakness, his overwhelming desire to become a successful writer.

He obviously thinks, that when faced with a choice, between succeeding as an author, or holding onto Lena, Ian will make the former choice. And I think he believes this, because he can't comprehend how anyone with a real ability to be highly successful in any given endeavour, would put love before success, money and the power that it can bring. I think he firmly believes that with the right leverage, he can make Ian do what he wants, which will be to give up Lena for success and adulation as an author. And perhaps actively persuade Lena, that her best course of action, is to go along with whatever Seymour suggests.

That's why he asks Ian, how far he's prepared to go, to be successful. And if Ian replies, that he'll do anything ( not realising the true implications of what he's agreeing to), Seymour is extremely pleased.
 
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I think his real reason for helping Ian, is so he can threaten to end his career as an author, if he tries to hold on to Lena or tries to turn her against him. Seymour probably knows that Ian and Lena have some kind of close relationship or friendship, and he views Ian as a potential threat to his plans for Lena, particularly if she has feelings for him. So he's creating leverage over Ian, by getting heavily involved, in what he views as Ian's main weakness, his overwhelming desire to become a successful writer.

He obviously thinks, that when faced with a choice, between succeeding as an author, or holding onto Lena, Ian will make the former choice. And I think he believes this, because he can't comprehend how anyone with a real ability to be highly successful in any given endeavour, would put love before success, money and the power that it can bring. I think he firmly believes that with the right leverage, he can make Ian do what he wants, which will be to give up Lena for success and adulation as an author. And perhaps actively persuade Lena, that her best course of action, is to go along with whatever Seymour suggests.

That's why he asks Ian, how far he's prepared to go, to be successful. And if Ian replies, that he'll do anything ( not realising the true implications of what he's agreeing to), Seymour is extremely pleased.
I think your analysis would be apt if this was a soap opera, but I think it lacks the erotic quality needed for a porn game. But our forecasts are not mutually exclusive. Mine does involve Ian giving up Lena as a love interest, but going yet further to aid in intensifying her sexual exploitation by allowing himself to be directed by Seymour and his designees to do things to Lena that no boyfriend would ever do to a girl that he loves. It might even influence Ian's literary pursiuts with regard to genre.
 

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When Lena breaks up with Ian in chapter 10 because he pushes for sex twice (and they never had sex), she still has the choice to let him film her stalkfap content. This seems an oversight, since she shuts him off in every other way and they are very awkward for the rest of the game. She shouldn't have the option to let him film in this case.
I did reach that scenario and while I agree it seems a bit contradictory, it does reinforce the concept of "blueballing" a cuckold Ian if you will excuse the reference. I do remember a "huh?" moment when I reached it. But I chose it anyway. In this (my most recent play) I have Lena being really mean to Stan which I have never done before. It feels strange.
Also during this play, I got many alerts of "gallery unlocked!" without actually seeing the related sex scenes. What does that mean?
 
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When Lena breaks up with Ian in chapter 10 because he pushes for sex twice (and they never had sex), she still has the choice to let him film her stalkfap content. This seems an oversight, since she shuts him off in every other way and they are very awkward for the rest of the game. She shouldn't have the option to let him film in this case.
Is that on the cuck route, because I don't recall Lena being reticent to have sex with Ian on the non-cuck route? And if they're on the cuck route, Lena increasingly desires Ian to be obedient, and just please her. And then if he does, she rewards him with a handjob or oral sex. So if he's demanding to have sex, he's kind of opposing the new unspoken rules of their relationship, where she's now wearing the trousers. I've never come across the content you're referring to, because I've always had Ian submit to Lena on that route.

I do know, that if you have Ian object to Stalkfap after the gig at the Garrison, Lena doesn't let him get involved in it. And asks other people, like Mike or Stan instead. So that would suggest, Ian didn't object on your playthrough. So are you saying, that Ian is on the cuck route, where he can no longer have sex with Lena, but if he never objects to Stalkfap, he's allowed to film her on the Sunday and then have sex with her, as occurs in the non-cuck route content? If that's the case ( and I don't know, because on my playthrough of this content, he did object), then I agree, it's probably a bug. Because Ian shouldn't be able to have penetrative sex with Lena, once the cuck route begins.
 
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I think your analysis would be apt if this was a soap opera, but I think it lacks the erotic quality needed for a porn game. But our forecasts are not mutually exclusive. Mine does involve Ian giving up Lena as a love interest, but going yet further to aid in intensifying her sexual exploitation by allowing himself to be directed by Seymour and his designees to do things to Lena that no boyfriend would ever do to a girl that he loves. It might even influence Ian's literary pursiuts with regard to genre.
I just don't see Seymour, as the kind of guy who shares his toys with anybody. So the idea that he's going to include Ian in his sex games with Lena, well I just don't see that happening at all. He's already indicated that he's searching for someone to leave his legacy to, and since he has no children or close relatives, the clear implication is that he intends Lena to be that person. And his sex games, are a means to mold/corrupt her, into the type of person he believes will be worthy of such a responsibility. As far as he's concerned, there's a deeper purpose to all of this, beyond merely sex.

You say this is a porn game, as if that automatically eliminates any dramatic elements that don't involve sex. If that's the case, then why do we have the MMA tournament in such depth, without any sexual element whatsoever? This isn't merely a porn game, that concentrates on just sex, with dramatic elements tagged on as an afterthought. The drama and the realistic relationships that back it up, have been carefully constructed, and are as important as the sexual elements, or at the very least more important than in most 'porn' games. And that's why this game, has such a healthy following, who feel compelled to spend hours everyday making comments on this thread.

In any case, what you're suggesting that Seymour is doing with Ian, is not something that presently exists in the game, and is more what you want to happen, despite there being no evidence that it ever will. Because the only person, that Seymour is presently doing anything with, is Lena. And Seymour's ultimate intentions for Ian, are as yet unclear. I might be right, you might be right, but we could both be completely wrong.
 

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I just don't see Seymour, as the kind of guy who shares his toys with anybody. So the idea that he's going to include Ian in his sex games with Lena, well I just don't see that happening at all. He's already indicated that he's searching for someone to leave his legacy to, and since he has no children or close relatives, the clear implication is that he intends Lena to be that person. And his sex games, are a means to mold/corrupt her, into the type of person he believes will be worthy of such a responsibility. As far as he's concerned, there's a deeper purpose to all of this, beyond merely sex.

You say this is a porn game, as if that automatically eliminates any dramatic elements that don't involve sex. If that's the case, then why do we have the MMA tournament in such depth, without any sexual element whatsoever? This isn't merely a porn game, that concentrates on just sex, with dramatic elements tagged on as an afterthought. The drama and the realistic relationships that back it up, have been carefully constructed, and are as important as the sexual elements, or at the very least more important than in most 'porn' games. And that's why this game, has such a healthy following, who feel compelled to spend hours everyday making comments on this thread.

In any case, what you're suggesting that Seymour is doing with Ian, is not something that presently exists in the game, and is more what you want to happen, despite there being no evidence that it ever will. Because the only person, that Seymour is presently doing anything with, is Lena. And Seymour's ultimate intentions for Ian, are as yet unclear. I might be right, you might be right, but we could both be completely wrong.
Seymour took pictures while Lena was getting fucked by Axel though IIRC.
 

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I just don't see Seymour, as the kind of guy who shares his toys with anybody. So the idea that he's going to include Ian in his sex games with Lena, well I just don't see that happening at all. He's already indicated that he's searching for someone to leave his legacy to, and since he has no children or close relatives, the clear implication is that he intends Lena to be that person. And his sex games, are a means to mold/corrupt her, into the type of person he believes will be worthy of such a responsibility. As far as he's concerned, there's a deeper purpose to all of this, beyond merely sex.

You say this is a porn game, as if that automatically eliminates any dramatic elements that don't involve sex. If that's the case, then why do we have the MMA tournament in such depth, without any sexual element whatsoever? This isn't merely a porn game, that concentrates on just sex, with dramatic elements tagged on as an afterthought. The drama and the realistic relationships that back it up, have been carefully constructed, and are as important as the sexual elements, or at the very least more important than in most 'porn' games. And that's why this game, has such a healthy following, who feel compelled to spend hours everyday making comments on this thread.

In any case, what you're suggesting that Seymour is doing with Ian, is not something that presently exists in the game, and is more what you want to happen, despite there being no evidence that it ever will. Because the only person, that Seymour is presently doing anything with, is Lena. And Seymour's ultimate intentions for Ian, are as yet unclear. I might be right, you might be right, but we could both be completely wrong.
Seymour took pictures while Lena was getting fucked by Axel though IIRC.
I do not see what I was envisioning as Seymour sharing Lena with Ian, but rather sexually exploiting the two as a couple. Seymour can share his toys as he has offered to "lend" Lena to Agnes, and as Dolfe67 points out, he acquiesced to Agnes' desire and aded Axel into the photoshoot with Lena.

I think the other point you made regarding ORS being beyond a porn game and including many versatile elements that attract a broad following is quite valid; I was not thinking carefully.

Also, the idea of grooming Lena to be his successor is intriguing but I do prefer to see Lena in an ultimately submissive role. One element that I think strongly favors my preference is that when Seymour asks Lena who she sees herself as being in the Nietzsche conversation, when Lena unashamedly says she is the camel Seymour completely lights up. I think that defines their lion/camel relationship. But camels can grow into lions so I am not dismissing your prediction. Also I have speculated on a Dubai arc included here. Recently I used the URM code and when Lena chooses Dubai as her preferred destination (based on a "posh" characteristic), Seymour's face lights up and the URM code displays an "evil" tag to him.
 
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I would like Lena to mess around with Holly even if she is in a relationship with Ian and not have to catch feelings like when she is not dating Ian. Just sex. No bullshit.
 
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