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Not entirely sure. It might switch to Lena's side, but there's quite a few things (discussion about Holly/Lena, rumors of Lena's cheating) and fallout of those, that'd be taken out of player's hands if it's played from Lena's perspective. Guess we'll have to wait and see.
I'm pretty sure Cheating confrontation will be most probably done in Lena's POV. I mean all Ian have to do is confront her, it'll be upto Lena on how to handle it. There might be a small pov switch in between for Ian's pov like Lena had one in current update but other thn that I don't see Ian's pov getting stretched any further, he already got enough content for chapter 12 with 2 updates.
 

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Im a bit confused as to why this is the case. So depending on the choices made, Lena and Ian can go in an open relationship but why does it close off so many routes but also leave others open? It just doesn't make any sense. If its open, they should be free to fuck anyone but why close off some and others not?

For context my Ian likes Holly, Fucked Alison, did not Fuck Cherry, Fucked/Dating Lena, Fucked Minerva, Fucked Emma and Fucked Cindy. My Lena fucked Robert, Mike, Axel, Ian, Seymour and Louise.

Now for an example, In one instance, Ian is basically saying to Jeremey that he wants to fuck Ivy and also see if he can score Jessica but then the moment Jeremy is like "hey man wanna do the threesome with alison?", Ian is like can't bro im taken. Like what? Literally just moments ago you wanted to fuck two other girls but suddenly can't? Besides this, so being in an open relationship with Lena closes off Alison, Cherry and Emma but not Cindy and Minerva? Same goes with Lena, you cut off Robert and Mike but are only left with Axel and Seymour as well as Louise?

Anyway, at this point is it honestly just better to keep them as friends with benefits with feelings or situationship?
 

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Im a bit confused as to why this is the case. So depending on the choices made, Lena and Ian can go in an open relationship but why does it close off so many routes but also leave others open? It just doesn't make any sense. If its open, they should be free to fuck anyone but why close off some and others not?

For context my Ian likes Holly, Fucked Alison, did not Fuck Cherry, Fucked/Dating Lena, Fucked Minerva, Fucked Emma and Fucked Cindy. My Lena fucked Robert, Mike, Axel, Ian, Seymour and Louise.

Now for an example, In one instance, Ian is basically saying to Jeremey that he wants to fuck Ivy and also see if he can score Jessica but then the moment Jeremy is like "hey man wanna do the threesome with alison?", Ian is like can't bro im taken. Like what? Literally just moments ago you wanted to fuck two other girls but suddenly can't? Besides this, so being in an open relationship with Lena closes off Alison, Cherry and Emma but not Cindy and Minerva? Same goes with Lena, you cut off Robert and Mike but are only left with Axel and Seymour as well as Louise?

Anyway, at this point is it honestly just better to keep them as friends with benefits with feelings or situationship?
Seems that the dev is starting to have the mcs deciding to establish relationships in the upcoming chapters soon and that will result in certain routes closing others off.

I think the "open relationship" status for Lena/Ian is just for sleeping with other people together and not having them seeing other people without letting the other know. This would also tie into the setting relationships as above.
 

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I played again recently and finally tried out exclusive Axel's path. I wanted a path where Lena has sex with him and no one else but I'm not sure if it's possible to have love for Ian so high she'll accept dating him but low enough to not have sex with him. Anyway, I made Ian as much of an enemy with Jeremy as possible hoping he wouldn't tell him about Lena being with Axel but that didn't happen and Jeremy revealed her cheating. I think that might be because the two were caught in the toilets a little before that, but is that really it? Is it possible to have Lena cheat on Ian with Axel or Jeremy without Jeremy telling on her to Ian?
 
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So depending on the choices made, Lena and Ian can go in an open relationship but why does it close off so many routes but also leave others open? It just doesn't make any sense. If its open, they should be free to fuck anyone but why close off some and others not?
Once again, it's not open relationship in the sense "each of us is free to fuck anyone". Lena and Ian only agree they'll "experiment together" i.e. potentially engage in threesomes with another person brought to the mix. They are starting to put this in practice in most recent chapters (threesome with Louise, Lena considering Eli as another possible participant) but anything beyond that i.e. just fucking other people behing the partner's back is still viewed by both of them as cheating.

Anyway, at this point is it honestly just better to keep them as friends with benefits with feelings or situationship?
If you want both of them to sleep around with anyone they want then yes, this is the most obvious and practical approach. I mean, why would either of them want to potentially chain themselves down to just one partner, with this attitude?
 

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I played again recently and finally tried out exclusive Axel's path. I wanted a path where Lena has sex with him and no one else but I'm not sure if it's possible to have love for Ian so high she'll accept dating him but low enough to not have sex with him. Anyway, I made Ian as much of an enemy with Jeremy as possible hoping he wouldn't tell him about Lena being with Axel but that didn't happen and Jeremy revealed her cheating. I think that might be because the two were caught in the toilets a little before that, but is that really it? Is it possible to have Lena cheat on Ian with Axel or Jeremy without Jeremy telling on her to Ian?
If you want Lena to exclusively be with Axel why have her date Ian? Jeremy considers Ian his best friend and will tell him about Lena regardless.
 

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I feel like alot of problems people have are solved if they stop making Ian and Lena fuck in every save.
 

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I feel like alot of problems people have are solved if they stop making Ian and Lena fuck in every save.
Or you know, reading what the characters are saying / thinking and use just a smidge of context clues and critical thinking. That would also help clear up a lot of confusion.

ffive can only repeat the same answers to the same questions for so long.
 

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I played again recently and finally tried out exclusive Axel's path. I wanted a path where Lena has sex with him and no one else but I'm not sure if it's possible to have love for Ian so high she'll accept dating him but low enough to not have sex with him. Anyway, I made Ian as much of an enemy with Jeremy as possible hoping he wouldn't tell him about Lena being with Axel but that didn't happen and Jeremy revealed her cheating. I think that might be because the two were caught in the toilets a little before that, but is that really it? Is it possible to have Lena cheat on Ian with Axel or Jeremy without Jeremy telling on her to Ian?
Unless I overlooked something, if Lena and Axel fuck in chapter 9, then Lena always fucks Axel in the chapter 11 epilogue while bartending, and is always getting caught by Marcel, who tells Jeremy, who tells Ian.
 
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If you want Lena to exclusively be with Axel why have her date Ian?
Because I specifically want Lena to cheat on Ian, it's not hard to figure it out, come on.
Jeremy considers Ian his best friend and will tell him about Lena regardless.
Unless I overlooked something, if Lena and Axel fuck in chapter 9, then Lena always fucks Axel in the chapter 11 epilogue while bartending, and is always getting caught by Marcel, who tells Jeremy, who tells Ian.
That's a bummer. I was so disappointed to find out that even when Lena isn't having sex with Jeremy he would tell Ian about it. Kinda annoying that that's unavoidable but I hope Lena will get the option to lie about it later. Thanks for the answers.
 
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Unless I overlooked something, if Lena and Axel fuck in chapter 9, then Lena always fucks Axel in the chapter 11 epilogue while bartending, and is always getting caught by Marcel, who tells Jeremy, who tells Ian.
You can stop masturbating as Lena in Chap 10 so that she has a choice not to fuck Axel at the club in Chap 11
 

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Can she still fuck Axel in chaper 12, then?
Axel will message Lena in Ch.12 as long as she had sex with him in Ch.9 If Lena no longer has hots for him (lena_axel_desire variable is set to false) then the player is given choice to meet up (and potentially escalate things from there), otherwise she'll accept request to meet up automatically.

So, yes, it should be possible to have them hook up in Ch.12 even if Lena resisted Axel in Ch.11, as long as they had sex in Ch.9
 
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Unless I overlooked something, if Lena and Axel fuck in chapter 9, then Lena always fucks Axel in the chapter 11 epilogue while bartending, and is always getting caught by Marcel, who tells Jeremy, who tells Ian.
No, she can reject him if she does not desire him.
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Unless I overlooked something, if Lena and Axel fuck in chapter 9, then Lena always fucks Axel in the chapter 11 epilogue while bartending, and is always getting caught by Marcel, who tells Jeremy, who tells Ian.
As Jeremy said “people talk”. The BJ that Lena gave to Mike at his DJ booth was also known by the club members. I also made sure that Lena didn't blow Mike at the toilet, yet Jeremy knew about her single nightclub antics. Axel was caught by Marcel, Mike probably boasted it to some club members, he's a player foremost than a lover, some people might have seen Jack having fun with Lena at the toilet and the word got around.

This is what I think on how Lena's shenanigans doesn't go unnoticed at the club.
 
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Read the full post in context to the post it was responding.
Lena hates Axel in chapter 1 just like Ian is casual with Hobby. If the player decides to steer them in specific directions through choices, Ian can develop feeling toward Holly and Lena can fuck Axel. The respondent argued that you control the characters, hence Lena could theoretically desire to fuck Axel in chapter 1 and Ian should been easier to get interested into Holly. Hence my response that Ian and Lena are fixed characters in the beginning of the game who have clear dispositions and opinions of their environment.
Lena claims to hate Axel, but does she really? Maybe she says that she does, but on the route where you allow her to get turned on by the pictures, in her notebook, it's obvious she never really stopped having feelings for him. Just like Ian can still secretly have feelings for Gillian ( if you choose to allow it). On the surface perhaps there positions with Axel and Gillian are fixed, but in reality they never were. If Ian chooses to mastubate in Chapter 1, there is a clear inference, that his feelings for Gillian, are not as clearcut as he believes. And the way that Lena reacts, when she first meets Axel at the Restaurant, suggests heavily that she isn't over him yet. Why else would Ivy tell her not to get over-emotional when she talks with Axel? It's clear Ivy believes, that Lena might still harbour feelings for Axel?

This is of course dependent on your choices. On the path I follow, Lena and Ian never stopped subconsciously desiring their former partners. They both believed that they hated them, but this belief was false. They were angry with them, they were disgusted with them, but they never hated them. I think both characters start off in an ambivalent position, regarding their ex-partners, that can become either hatred or desire, depending on the players choices.
 

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Lena claims to hate Axel, but does she really? Maybe she says that she does, but on the route where you allow her to get turned on by the pictures, in her notebook, it's obvious she never really stopped having feelings for him. Just like Ian can still secretly have feelings for Gillian ( if you choose to allow it). On the surface perhaps there positions with Axel and Gillian are fixed, but in reality they never were. If Ian chooses to mastubate in Chapter 1, there is a clear inference, that his feelings for Gillian, are not as clearcut as he believes. And the way that Lena reacts, when she first meets Axel at the Restaurant, suggests heavily that she isn't over him yet. Why else would Ivy tell her not to get over-emotional when she talks with Axel? It's clear Ivy believes, that Lena might still harbour feelings for Axel?

This is of course dependent on your choices. On the path I follow, Lena and Ian never stopped subconsciously desiring their former partners. They both believed that they hated them, but this belief was false. They were angry with them, they were disgusted with them, but they never hated them. I think both characters start off in an ambivalent position, regarding their ex-partners, that can become either hatred or desire, depending on the players choices.
True they dont hate them but they were hurt by them. U have two paths moving on from them or going back to the toxic cycle for Lena anyway. Dont know if eva plans to bring Gillian back
 

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True they dont hate them but they were hurt by them. U have two paths moving on from them or going back to the toxic cycle for Lena anyway. Dont know if eva plans to bring Gillian back
That's why I said they were angry and disgusted by them. As far as Lena is concerned, if you choose for her to completely blank Axel out, it's clear you've chosen for her to hate him. I just don't think it's a fixed position when the game starts.

I hope she brings Gillian back. It seems the obvious counterpoint, to Lena's relationship with Axel. I'm not sure Gillian is Mike's girlfriend, as a lot of people believe. But it would definitely create quite a lot of drama, within an Ian/Lena relationship, if they were both cheating on each other with Mike and Gillian. And doubly so, if Lena is cheating on Ian with Axel as well. That would give added drama, because Mike and Axel both despise each other.
 
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So, i started this game and is really good but with so many chars, anyone have a list who are the love interests for the 2 mc? I get the feeling the game tries to push the 2 mc together but i dont really want that.
 
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